Nugent - " Leicester Boo Boys"

[hackneyfox]

Dyer

Howard

Danns

Beckford

 

to name just a few more.

I think there were moans from the crowd when they fooked up big time, I don't recall them getting abuse from the majority of the crowd.

Sure they're happy enough when their names are being chanted, they should grow a pair and take the rough with the smooth.

[hackneyfox]

He's spot on and it's about time some of our fans have a good hard look at themselves. These same fans who are booing and constantly putting down players like Nuge then have the cheek to turn around and deride players who they deem to have a lack of loyalty, or love for the club. Well the club is the fans and as a whole we are not supporting our players, so why would they be loyal to us! Nugent is a top scorer over the last few years and despite being 4th top scorer in the league, we are giving him stick because some of them are penalties!!! It is absurd and if this kind of knee-jerk, short-term thinking criticism is the best you have to offer the club as a fan, then we are better off without you and you can **** off to derby or something.

Another happy clapper who thinks he's a better fan.

I don't hurl abuse at players, I don't think it helps but I do moan when they miss sitters or are incapable of trapping a ball.

I also cheer, applaud and sing their names when they do something outstanding.

[MrSpaM]

Funny how Leicester fans have changed since I started going to games 20 years ago this month.

I don't recall the boos and abuse if we went in 1-0 down at half time, I don't recall individual players getting singled out by the fans just because they were off form.

I personally think Nuge is spot on, we have a lot of arsehole fans and I wish they'd just shut up half the time!

Welcome to the internet generation...

[The Year Of The Fox]

I don't see how fans can slate him. All strikers hit lean spells. he made a good point about being top goalscorer prior to this season without taking penalties.

Our problem is some of our fans fail to see the off the ball runs he makes which creates space for the others. he brings a whole lot more to the team than just scoring goals.

Open your eyes.

[Freeman's Wharfer]

I hate this shite. Some players get all mouthy as soon as they hit form again. I bet he wouldn't have dared talked in this way 2 weeks ago, or in that period between February and October where he was absolutely wank.

 

Just get the fvck on with it, some of his criticism has been very justified.

 

Hahahaha I find this laughable, the lad has been dog muck by his standards for the majority of 2013. I'd also question what abuse he's received, it's likely he's received some on forums and on twitter. That's about it. The games i've been to where he has been poor, he's not received much abuse from our fans so he's going on a minority on the internet. Football is a sport where you'll receive a lot of flak and a lot of praise, he's a character who thrives on both in my opinion. He loves to play the pantomime villain with away fans and he absolutely laps it up from our fans when we sniff his 'arris.

 

I hope the bit of abuse he's received off us makes him get his finger out because he's been lacklustre and he's paid very, very well to perform to the best of his ability.

 

This is coming from a massive Nugent fan as well who has stuck up for him most of the time, but in recent weeks i've been furious with him and this dig at the fans has irked me.

 

Do players really expect and want their fans to be a bunch of window lickers, clapping them and praising them no matter what? Well tough shit, i've seen him be very vocal on twitter about his Everton team and players so as a supporter he'd be every bit like we are when our players and team aren't doing what they're capable of.

 

Both of these two are spot on.

 

As I've said before, this isn't about being a 'boo boy' or giving players stick. It's about having standards of what we expect from our players. I could go and play for us against Millwall next Saturday and reach nowhere near the level that would be expected of a professional player representing Leicester City. If I did that, I would be criticised and rightly so. Yet if Nugent, or Beckford or anyone else does the same then why are they exempt from criticism? Because of previous form or the fact that they've been good in the past?

 

That to an extent is true, which is why Schmeichel was forgiven howlers against Blackpool and Doncaster. But were he to have gone for the next 5 games making mistakes then, quite rightly, his place in the side would be questioned because he would not be reaching the required standard.

 

Nugent hasn't reached the standard required for a long time and has been woefully below it at times, failing on some of the very basics such as the required level of effort. For him to come out and give it the big licks regarding the stick he's received is distasteful on two levels. Firstly because he's not actually received a great deal of stick (I've heard little/none at matches) and secondly because he's been so poor for such a long time that it's a bit rich after one decent performance. If this is him "doing it for the team and the manager" then I'm happy for him to not be doing it for the fans because what he served up for us over the last couple of months was, quite frankly, nowhere near good enough.

[Foxymcoxy]

Another happy clapper who thinks he's a better fan.

I don't hurl abuse at players, I don't think it helps but I do moan when they miss sitters or are incapable of trapping a ball.

I also cheer, applaud and sing their names when they do something outstanding.G

Guilty conscience, pal? Don't think I called you out by name and a lot of fans have been a lot worse than what you are claiming.

[hackneyfox]

Both of these two are spot on.

 

As I've said before, this isn't about being a 'boo boy' or giving players stick. It's about having standards of what we expect from our players. I could go and play for us against Millwall next Saturday and reach nowhere near the level that would be expected of a professional player representing Leicester City. If I did that, I would be criticised and rightly so. Yet if Nugent, or Beckford or anyone else does the same then why are they exempt from criticism? Because of previous form or the fact that they've been good in the past?

 

That to an extent is true, which is why Schmeichel was forgiven howlers against Blackpool and Doncaster. But were he to have gone for the next 5 games making mistakes then, quite rightly, his place in the side would be questioned because he would not be reaching the required standard.

 

Nugent hasn't reached the standard required for a long time and has been woefully below it at times, failing on some of the very basics such as the required level of effort. For him to come out and give it the big licks regarding the stick he's received is distasteful on two levels. Firstly because he's not actually received a great deal of stick (I've heard little/none at matches) and secondly because he's been so poor for such a long time that it's a bit rich after one decent performance. If this is him "doing it for the team and the manager" then I'm happy for him to not be doing it for the fans because what he served up for us over the last couple of months was, quite frankly, nowhere near good enough.

Spot on and Schmeichel will soon have people moaning about him if he lets in more goals like the one on Saturday, far too many mistakes creeping in this season.

[Captain...]

Do you really think many players 'play for the fans'? If so, I think you're naive.

The players play for their contracts and to improve their contracts if possible. Football is a job, it's hard work (these guys are as fit as fook) it's no longer a vocation.

Yes, it must be nice to be idolised by a section of supporters, but with the adoration so too must come criticism. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Any modem-day sportsman who uses Twitter and any other forum to gauge opinion and to post comments must learn to take the rough with the smooth, the good with the bad. Because both are there in equal measure.

Personally, I've always thought if I were a sportsman ( fat chance), I'd stay away from the social media and just get on with what I was doing. That way, I wouldn't get carried-away by people that thought I was God's Gift one week, and the Devil Incarnate the next. Usually the same people, I might add.

 

But you can see the players that do, Knocky for one, is driven on the by the fans, he loves it, whereas you could see Drinkwater was affected by the fans and started to play no risk football as he didn't want the fans on his back, which made it worse. We shouldn't underestimate the effect we have on players, some more than others, otherwise what is the point in singing at matches. Even if they are only playing for a contract, they will still play better in a positive supportive environment, especially at the moment when we are doing so well. To abuse any player after the start we have had is just bizarre and they will feel like they can't win with the fans.

[Happy Fox]

People need to look at the big picture making out the players are below par yet we are f**king second in the league!

[hackneyfox]

Guilty conscience, pal? Don't think I called you out by name and a lot of fans have been a lot worse than what you are claiming.

I don't boo I have nothing to feel guilty about.

To be honest when people have booed they are just showing their frustration at a poor performance, they have every right to when you consider what they have paid.

The Forest game was awful, it cost me a fortune for me and my lad to travel from London, if the players knew how pissed off we all were then that's no bad thing.

[Hungry Hungry Fox]

I wonder how most of you would deal with thousands of people slagging you off? Would be interested In a psychologists point of view on this

[hackneyfox]

To abuse any player after the start we have had is just bizarre and they will feel like they can't win with the fans.

Which players, and when, have been abused at games this season?

[hackneyfox]

I wonder how most of you would deal with thousands of people slagging you off? Would be interested In a psychologists point of view on this

If we were getting our names cheered to the rafters when we played well, as well as receiving thousands of pounds a week, I reckon most of us could deal with it.

[Hungry Hungry Fox]

Earning lots of money does not make someone less human

[Alexikokopops]

I don't boo I have nothing to feel guilty about.

To be honest when people have booed they are just showing their frustration at a poor performance, they have every right to when you consider what they have paid.

The Forest game was awful, it cost me a fortune for me and my lad to travel from London, if the players knew how pissed off we all were then that's no bad thing.

 

I'm going to bring this into every day life. Next time I get substandard service at a restaurant I might start booing the waiters instead of just leaving no tip  

[Guest Col city fan]

Ooh Col you can't say that on here, many believe the players love the club and NFP and would never leave.

I'd hope that our cub were professional enough to

give the players training on social media.

I can say it on here cos I believe it.

The days of players 'playing for the fans' are long gone. Anyone who thinks otherwise is naive.

Do you really think Nugent or Drinkwater or whoever would think twice if a Premiership club made a firm bid for them, wanted to double their wages and if City wanted to sell? Of course they wouldn't. These guys are like most of us. They want to progress themselves and build better lives and futures for themselves.

I do accept that some players WILL have some affinity to the club. Lloyd Dyer and King, for example, seem to be Lesta through and through. The same as Gerrard at Liverpool.

But these guys are massively in the minority.

Football, to some extent, echoes most other walks of life. It's a cut-throat, get in, make money, get out world. Some fans kinda dream that it's not that, instead it's a kind of 'all in it together' mentality.

If Pearson has developed some kind team camaraderie, some sense of gelling (which I think he has), it will be because the players are now seeing that we have a real chance of playing Premiership football. They will know that this will mean salary increases, increased exposure and that their value as a commodity will also increase.

It won't be down to any inner-feeling of wanting to get promoted because 'the fans deserve it'. They may say that, of course, but it's pretty much hot air IMO.

No, Nugent needs to get on with the job of scoring goals. No more, no less. In this way, he gets the doubters off his back, he gets people singing his name and he gets his new contract. On better terms than the existing one should we get promoted.

The days of my thinking that the players were in some way 'playing for me and for my club' have gone a long time ago. I apologise if this sounds cynical, but football is a business. It's about entertaining, making money and being successful. And I say again, if any player doesn't like reading what's on Twitter and other Social Media, just don't go on them.

[hackneyfox]

Col

I totally agree with you I was just pointing out that you'll be upsetting a few on here who seem to believe that the players love the club as much as they do.

[Captain...]

Both of these two are spot on.

 

As I've said before, this isn't about being a 'boo boy' or giving players stick. It's about having standards of what we expect from our players. I could go and play for us against Millwall next Saturday and reach nowhere near the level that would be expected of a professional player representing Leicester City. If I did that, I would be criticised and rightly so. Yet if Nugent, or Beckford or anyone else does the same then why are they exempt from criticism? Because of previous form or the fact that they've been good in the past?

 

That to an extent is true, which is why Schmeichel was forgiven howlers against Blackpool and Doncaster. But were he to have gone for the next 5 games making mistakes then, quite rightly, his place in the side would be questioned because he would not be reaching the required standard.

 

Nugent hasn't reached the standard required for a long time and has been woefully below it at times, failing on some of the very basics such as the required level of effort. For him to come out and give it the big licks regarding the stick he's received is distasteful on two levels. Firstly because he's not actually received a great deal of stick (I've heard little/none at matches) and secondly because he's been so poor for such a long time that it's a bit rich after one decent performance. If this is him "doing it for the team and the manager" then I'm happy for him to not be doing it for the fans because what he served up for us over the last couple of months was, quite frankly, nowhere near good enough.

 

Do you not think that maybe your expectations are too high? If you watch MOTD every week you will see worse misses than Nugent's against Forest, (Joe Allen for Liverpool this week), missed penalties, bigger mistakes than any of Schmeichel's (Artur Boruc). England vs Germany, I watched Kyle Walker just kick the ball full width of the pitch and straight out of play from a free kick in his own half. These are players playing at a much higher level than us, and they still massively fvck up, managers too. I don't think Stringer helps by screaming Leicester must score after every attack and then letting us all down when they don't' When in reality the chance of scoring wasn't that high.

 

Players aren't robots, they have good patches and bad, good games and bad, but I don't think anyone could accuse him of not trying during his poor spell this season, and I don't think anyone can accuse him of not being good enough at this level, his record speaks for itself. I just don't understand this expectation that we should win every game and take every chance and not miss a single pass or tackle. I do understand the criticism of Nugent's performances after the match as a cold critical analysis yes against Forest he was very bad. But there is a reason why he wasn't taken off, and a reason why he is one of the first names on the teamsheet, even when playing badly he is our most likely source for a goal and can score from nothing.

 

Just don't expect him to score in every game, he won't, none of our players will.

[Winnershfox]

Ultimatly he shouldnt have made that comment in the press. Players need to expect that fans will get on their back from time to time. I worked with an ex premier league pro who rightly said that he took no notice and never read forums. He also expected hassle from supporters and found it to be quite motivational.

I for one rate Nugent highly and have only said positive things in this forum about him. I feel it right to get off his back but also he needs to take it all with a pinch of salt.

[Ric Flair]

It would be refreshing for a player to come out and apologise to the fans when they've been serving up some of the muck that Nugent has this year. He has been honest in interviews in the past but you never hear a player so, i've not been good enough etc. They'll be the first to cry wolf when they get some stick but they'll never say " i've been the pits and I can understand why the fans are getting frustrated " he surely knows how much he's loved at Leicester because we've sang his name and praised him on countless occasions so if he's now getting a bit of stick perhaps he should have a think about why that might be the case?

 

Another case of players thinking they are untouchable and above criticism by the people who pay their bastard wages. He'll not get the dough he's on right now again at any other club.

[Hungry Hungry Fox]

The next time I go and watch a crap film at the cinema featuring very highly paid actors I will vent my fury at the screen by throwing pop corn and Ice cream at the screen. After all I've paid my hard earned money to watch it haven't I? I must be ENTITLED

[Ric Flair]

The next time I go and watch a crap film at the cinema featuring very highly paid actors I will vent my fury at the screen by throwing pop corn and Ice cream at the screen. After all I've paid my hard earned money to watch it haven't I? I must be ENTITLED

 

Yes you can and should. I've walked out of a film after about 20 minutes as it was a load of pony, I think I flicked the v's at the screen as well and I definitely told some goober to fook off who derided me for getting up during the film. I'll take bodies.

[Guest Col city fan]

But you can see the players that do, Knocky for one, is driven on the by the fans, he loves it, whereas you could see Drinkwater was affected by the fans and started to play no risk football as he didn't want the fans on his back, which made it worse. We shouldn't underestimate the effect we have on players, some more than others, otherwise what is the point in singing at matches. Even if they are only playing for a contract, they will still play better in a positive supportive environment, especially at the moment when we are doing so well. To abuse any player after the start we have had is just bizarre and they will feel like they can't win with the fans.

How on earth do you know that Drinkwater was affected by the fans? Genuinely, do you know him and can confirm this?

And let's have it right... The whole team went off-form during the arse-end of last season. Were they ALL affected by the fans?

Usually, the player(s) go off form before the fans start to become frustrated in the stands. This is what leads to frustration amongst the fans. If we were still playing well, the frustration wouldn't happen would it. Fans will usually give the players a few games to bounce-back before they start to turn on them. Knocky, like you mentioned, generally adored by the fans, will have to have three/four bad games before murmurs of discontent start creeping in.

It's the real world mate. Players must learn to take criticism on the chin. What's the Kipling poem? 'success and failure' and treat those two impostors just the same. I don't get bound up in this thing about getting on the players backs leading to a string of poor performances. I know you do. A bit of criticism can just as easily give a player the 'kick up the arse' that they might need, as send them into a pit of depression. It's the way of the world. The best players shrug it off, dust themselves down and get on with it.

This is perhaps Pearson's greatest achievement this season. It appears that he's taken the failure of last season and turned that negative into a positive. If so, excellent management.

[Foxymcoxy]

Do people think he is bad on purpose? He obviously wants to score every game, "letting him no he's not been good enough" is a bullshit reason. Plus he has been good enough we are winning nearly every game.

[Leicester_Numan]

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Hopefully-silence-critics-blasts-Leicester-City/story-20171217-detail/story.html

Farther Ted and co read this!

Leicester City match-winner David Nugent hopes his double strike at Ipswich Town will silence his critics.

The 28-year-old took his goal tally to 10 for the campaign and, in doing so, helped send City to joint top of the Championship.

Nugent's two goals, scored inside six minutes, completed a superb comeback for City, who have now won 11 of their first 16 games this season.

Nugent said he had been taking criticism this season that he had not scored enough goals, but said he would not let it distract him from helping City in their promotion push.

"If there are any moaners out there, then perhaps it will keep them quiet for a couple of weeks," he said.

"Instead of getting on my back, perhaps they can get behind the team and we can push on and get promoted.

"People are saying I haven't scored enough goals, but I have got 10 already this season. You can never keep all the fans happy.

"Six have been penalties, but this is the first season I have taken pens and, in previous years when I have been the leading goalscorer, all the goals have come from open play.

"If they want to get on my back, I don't care because I am doing it for the team and the staff.

"I want to break that 20-goal barrier and I am halfway now, and it isn't even Christmas. Hopefully, I can get a few more."

That's buggered it, in the previous 2 seasons, as soon as he started talking about getting 20 goals he went on long barren runs. I wish he'd shut up about it just keep scoring, they'll add up themselves, he doesn't need to keep count and put unnecessary pressure on himself