The whole 'atmosphere' thing

[Guest Col city fan]

There have been many posts since last night's game to say that the atmosphere was rubbish.

I agree, it was, and made the point last night that, compared to many cup nights at Filbert Street, especially under MON of course, last night paled by comparison. There were evenings when Filbo was rocking (as well, to be fair, as some when it wasnt).

Other comments have been made to suggest that some fans 'crawled out of the woodwork' for last night's fixture, suggesting almost that such fans shouldnt even have been there. It appears that some almost feel that such 'fair weather fans' aren't genuine supporters and aren't welcome? Or have I read this wrongly?

I saw this and see this as completely different. Where I was sitting last night I got the feeling that the crowd were itching to make a noise. They had paid good money, near to Christmas to come and watch an entertaining game. They wanted to see Man City, yes, but would have loved to have seen a Leicester City side actually turn the prima donnas over.

My feeling was that our team gave the supporters nothing much to sing about. It was clear, early doors, that there was a gulf in class and that the result was never going to be in question. Quickly then, the eager anticipation of David beating Goliath became nullified. We got a feeling, pretty quickly of 'oh dear', how many is it going to be.

Was I wrong on this? Should the crowd have continued to shout and cheer even though the lads on the pitch were generally piss-poor?

Which comes first? Support, leading to enhanced performance or good performance leading to crowd excitement and thus more noise?

Opinions please....

[FuriousFox46]

I think as fans, we tend to give for the first 10 minutes of each half and if the players or the match hasn't responded by then we give up.

[NathanBlueFox]

you have to take into account that half the people in the stadium dont regularly go and dont know any chants. 

although the atmosphere was poor it was amazing seeing the KP full, would love that every week but it seems fans only come to see the opposition and not city.

[purpleronnie]

Union FS can save it.

[Larry_LCFC]

I'd give Sam Bailey a mic linked to the PA system and let her lead the chanting throughout the game.

[FuriousFox46]

I'd give Sam Bailey a mic linked to the PA system and let her lead the chanting throughout the game.

 

 

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! She was on that programme I don't like. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! BOOOOOOOOOOOOO! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[Larry_LCFC]

[prayforsnow]

You're probably right. Its just a shame its the way its gone. I keep on harping back to the MON times but when we weren't playing well then, I can remember singing 'Martin O'Neills Blue and White Army' or 'Leicester, Leicester, Leicester' constantly for 20 plus mins. The team would respond and more often than not get something from the game.

 

After singing constantly for that amount of time you were absolutely shattered but the feeling when the team scored and you were going mental despite being so knackered was amazing.  I remember being so out of breath! You actually felt like you had helped them score.

 

Its something I've probably yet to have experienced at the KP because nowadays the fans seem to think the players should be the ones to motivate them. Its a shame.

[Donut]

There have been many posts since last night's game to say that the atmosphere was rubbish.

I agree, it was, and made the point last night that, compared to many cup nights at Filbert Street, especially under MON of course, last night paled by comparison. There were evenings when Filbo was rocking (as well, to be fair, as some when it wasnt).

Other comments have been made to suggest that some fans 'crawled out of the woodwork' for last night's fixture, suggesting almost that such fans shouldnt even have been there. It appears that some almost feel that such 'fair weather fans' aren't genuine supporters and aren't welcome? Or have I read this wrongly?

I saw this and see this as completely different. Where I was sitting last night I got the feeling that the crowd were itching to make a noise. They had paid good money, near to Christmas to come and watch an entertaining game. They wanted to see Man City, yes, but would have loved to have seen a Leicester City side actually turn the prima donnas over.

My feeling was that our team gave the supporters nothing much to sing about. It was clear, early doors, that there was a gulf in class and that the result was never going to be in question. Quickly then, the eager anticipation of David beating Goliath became nullified. We got a feeling, pretty quickly of 'oh dear', how many is it going to be.

Was I wrong on this? Should the crowd have continued to shout and cheer even though the lads on the pitch were generally piss-poor?

Which comes first? Support, leading to enhanced performance or good performance leading to crowd excitement and thus more noise?

Opinions please....

 

Think youve hit the nail on the head Col.

 

If you think back to the last Man City cup game, we got out the blocks quickly, Bamba nodded one in after about a minute. The crowd were instantly up and this contributed to a great atmosphere (it was a great game).

 

This time around, it was a Man City masterclass. They quietened down the crowd by keeping the ball, by putting on an ultra professional display, and frankly, by half way through the first half, the game was gone.

 

There was nothing from us to inspire any noise.

[BrummieFOX]

I think as fans, we tend to give for the first 10 minutes of each half and if the players or the match hasn't responded by then we give up.

Yea this basically. But it's exactly the same away from home too. If we get an early goal and dominate, we can be brilliant. But let in an early goal or the display isn't particularly inspiring and we can't rouse ourselves to get behind the team and sing.

 

It's a shame. 

[FuriousFox46]

Think youve hit the nail on the head Col.

 

If you think back to the last Man City cup game, we got out the blocks quickly, Bamba nodded one in after about a minute. The crowd were instantly up and this contributed to a great atmosphere (it was a great game).

 

This time around, it was a Man City masterclass. They quietened down the crowd by keeping the ball, by putting on an ultra professional display, and frankly, by half way through the first half, the game was gone.

 

There was nothing from us to inspire any noise.

 

To be fair, we were quite vocal for a few minutes after our goal but your point still carries.

[Poznan34]

It's a good point. I got the same feeling looking around as Man City were 1-0 up passing it about within 10 mins.

[yorkie1999]

To be fair, we were quite vocal for a few minutes after our goal but your point still carries.

If we had scored another i'm sure it would have gone very vocal, which goes to prove its what happens on the pitch that generates an atmosphere.

[Craig]

What pissed me off the most was seeing a fan who'd sat in silence throughout the first half standing, singing, and clapping along to Sam Bailey. Ridiculous.

[Jackubu]

what really annoyed me about last night was the fans, I use the term loosely, who turned up and spent 80% of their time looking at their phones. Then Sam Bailey seemed to get a better round of applause than our actual team which was embarrassing. Nothing against Sam bailey though. People didn't seem interested at all. They did seem interested in clapping David Silva off the pitch, what was that all about?

It can't be ticket prices keeping fans away, which was proven by the prices of Burnley at home. I'd love to see these fans turn up more often but I know they won't.

People in SK1(where I sit) ,L and N are generally the only people starting songs although it is still painful. I do like filbo spirits approach so far

[Trav Le Bleu]

You sing when your losing, drawing or winning. You sing when the players are bad or mediocre or fantastic. You sing if it's raining; you sing if the sun's shining. You sing if Jobber's drumming and you carry on singing when he's got fed up of that. You can sing standing, you can sing sitting, you can sing leaping into the air for joy. You sing when the ref gives us a penalty, you sing when he sends one of our players off. You sing when a goal is offside and you sing when the ball thunders into the opposition goal from 40 yards. You sing when there's a corner, a goalkick, a dropball or freekick. You sing when there's a dodgy ref; you sing when the ref gives us a penalty that you just know never was. You sing when the team run out onto the pitch and you sing when they leave.

 

You just sing.

[broughtonblue]

When the opposition cheat for the first hour by not letting us have the ball then I think the atmosphere is bound to be flat.

[Jackubu]

When the opposition cheat for the first hour by not letting us have the ball then I think the atmosphere is bound to be flat.

You cannot blame the opposition for the atmosphere because it was the same old rubbish last night

[Voll Blau]

It's no excuse in my opinion. Cup games are meant to be fun. Yes we wanedt to win, but the excitement of an occasion like last night (by which I mean a League Cup quarter-final, not that we were playing Man City) should give people the incentive to sing and cheer even when we're losing.

 

As I said in another thread, too many of our fans are so arrogant - expecting to be entertained before they open their gobs. If it's not going your way on the pitch, make your own fun by having a sing-song. Who knows? It might even inspire the lads to realise who they're actually playing for, not just a bunch of morons who seem to accept nothing less than a performance equal to that of the 1970 Brazil squad in every game.

[cjslcfc]

what really annoyed me about last night was the fans, I use the term loosely, who turned up and spent 80% of their time looking at their phones. Then Sam Bailey seemed to get a better round of applause than our actual team which was embarrassing. Nothing against Sam bailey though. People didn't seem interested at all. They did seem interested in clapping David Silva off the pitch, what was that all about?

It can't be ticket prices keeping fans away, which was proven by the prices of Burnley at home. I'd love to see these fans turn up more often but I know they won't.

People in SK1(where I sit) ,L and N are generally the only people starting songs although it is still painful. I do like filbo spirits approach so far

 

I was one who clapped Silva off. Sometimes you just have to appreciate how good a player is.

 

Overall the atmosphere was down to the professional nature of City's performance. They quietened us down straight away and I'm sure most, including myself, were thinking that we could lose by any number.

 

Nevertheless it's still disappointing and it's not getting any better.

[FuriousFox46]

You cannot blame the opposition for the atmosphere because it was the same old rubbish last night

Exactly.

It would be absurd to think that an away side would ever go out with the intention to keep the bumper crowd of home fans quiet...

[Jackubu]

I was one who clapped Silva off. Sometimes you just have to appreciate how good a player is.

 

Overall the atmosphere was down to the professional nature of City's performance. They quietened us down straight away and I'm sure most, including myself, were thinking that we could lose by any number.

 

Nevertheless it's still disappointing and it's not getting any better.

I wouldn't say he stood out last night. Man City won't be happy with their performance in the second half. I'm all for appreciating good football and players but Silva last night? No thanks.

The atmosphere was never there from the start and you cannot blame the players for that.

[Corky]

The fans can barely be bothered when we are winning comfortably either. I don't remember the ground rocking when 6-0 up v Ipswich or 6-1 v Huddersfield. Last night was crap, no-one bothered. Defeats used to be made a little bit easier to bear because the fans showed defiance or humour when we were struggling. Nothing like that last night.

 

Still, at least we had the Fulham match.

[FuriousFox46]

The fans can barely be bothered when we are winning comfortably either. I don't remember the ground rocking when 6-0 up v Ipswich or 6-1 v Huddersfield. Last night was crap, no-one bothered. Defeats used to be made a little bit easier to bear because the fans showed defiance or humour when we were struggling. Nothing like that last night.

 

Still, at least we had the Fulham match.

 

We need specific conditions to be noisy nowadays

 

• Fair sized away crowd - vocal but not to large (1,500-2,000)
• Close game with incident that we edge

[Itsthejoeker]

I don't see everyone's problem with more people coming to the games? The seats that are always empty might as well be filled whether they stand up and make noise or not. I'd rather have a quiet fan than an empty seat.