NathanBlueFox Posted 22 December 2013 Posted 22 December 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2527820/Marks-Spencer-tells-Muslim-staff-CAN-refuse-serve-customers-buying-alcohol-pork.html
midland_red Posted 22 December 2013 Posted 22 December 2013 must be true then if you read it in the Mail
Larry_LCFC Posted 22 December 2013 Posted 22 December 2013 Disgusting. This country has gone ****ing soft. If you choose to live and work in this country, you abide by our values and ways. If you don't like it, you know what you can do. Edit - Let me just add, I dont mean the above in a discriminatory way, but if muslim staff have issues with handling staple foods in this country, they shouldn't be in a job that puts them in that position. Why should they be given special treatment compared to everyone else?
Webbo Posted 22 December 2013 Posted 22 December 2013 It's M&S's business, don't know why anyone else would be interested.
StanSP Posted 22 December 2013 Posted 22 December 2013 Disgusting. This country has gone ****ing soft. If you choose to live and work in this country, you abide by our values and ways. If you don't like it, you know what you can do. What if you're a British Muslim?
The God Emperor Posted 22 December 2013 Posted 22 December 2013 its in the mail so I'll take it with a pinch of salt, but didn't they think before they applied for the job that they may have to handle pork products and alcohol? Seems a bit of a silly policy to me but if that's what M&S want to do then so be it.
Larry_LCFC Posted 22 December 2013 Posted 22 December 2013 What if you're a British Muslim? Then dont choose to do a job where you are put in that position. I am all for different religions/faiths living together, but things like this build barriers and prevent intergration. Would you be happy if you tried to pay for items, only to be told you have to wait another 5 minutes and go to another till because they dont want to serve you? Id be fuming. Basically being held to ransom.
Webbo Posted 22 December 2013 Posted 22 December 2013 If you read the article they've lifted it from the Telegraph.
Mark_w Posted 22 December 2013 Posted 22 December 2013 As long as the same could apply to any Vegetarians, Vegans and people who are Teetotal that would want the same then I don't think it's a problem really. They're not actually stopping you buying it.
Mike Oxlong Posted 22 December 2013 Posted 22 December 2013 Some of those in Rochdale didn't mind their pork in cider.
Larry_LCFC Posted 22 December 2013 Posted 22 December 2013 As long as the same could apply to any Vegetarians, Vegans and people who are Teetotal that would want the same then I don't think it's a problem really. They're not actually stopping you buying it. Except the same doesnt apply does it? If a vegetarian tried refusing to serve a customer meat, they would be sacked for misconduct. Everyone is terrified of the race card being pulled out if Muslims are offended and subsequently people bend over backwards. Where does it it stop? Technically every category you mentioned above should have the same policy, but the fact is they dont.
Kitchandro Posted 22 December 2013 Posted 22 December 2013 It doesn't really make much difference to shoppers but if true it does highlight how ridiculous Muslims are.
NathanBlueFox Posted 22 December 2013 Author Posted 22 December 2013 Except the same doesnt apply does it? If a vegetarian tried refusing to serve a customer meat, they would be sacked for misconduct. Everyone is terrified of the race card being pulled out if Muslims are offended and subsequently people bend over backwards. Where does it it stop? Technically every category you mentioned above should have the same policy, but the fact is they dont.
StanSP Posted 22 December 2013 Posted 22 December 2013 Then dont choose to do a job where you are put in that position. I am all for different religions/faiths living together, but things like this build barriers and prevent intergration. Would you be happy if you tried to pay for items, only to be told you have to wait another 5 minutes and go to another till because they dont want to serve you? Id be fuming. Basically being held to ransom. . Not really ransom is it? Just means you have to wait a few extra minutes. Big deal. If you're in that much of a rush, use the self-service checkouts. That was you don't have to deal with the problem of potentially being served (or not) by a Muslim. I do agree that it can provide some obstacle - but it's not like you can't buy the product at all. It's a bit far-fetched that it has come to this, of course. I personally think it's a bit silly because the staff aren't exactly being forced to drink the alcohol or eat the pork. But as a consumer, such a big deal does not have to be made. It doesn't really make much difference to shoppers but if true it does highlight how ridiculous Muslims are. Yep. Every singly Muslim is ridiculous.
Mark_w Posted 22 December 2013 Posted 22 December 2013 Except the same doesnt apply does it? If a vegetarian tried refusing to serve a customer meat, they would be sacked for misconduct. Everyone is terrified of the race card being pulled out if Muslims are offended and subsequently people bend over backwards. Where does it it stop? Technically every category you mentioned above should have the same policy, but the fact is they dont. And how do you know the same doesn't apply?
NathanBlueFox Posted 22 December 2013 Author Posted 22 December 2013 And how do you know the same doesn't apply? come on, you think a vegetarian would not get sacked for refusing to sell meat.
Finnaldo Posted 22 December 2013 Posted 22 December 2013 come on, you think a vegetarian would not get sacked for refusing to sell meat. If there was evidence to prove it then I would believe it.
StanSP Posted 22 December 2013 Posted 22 December 2013 come on, you think a vegetarian would not get sacked for refusing to sell meat. They wouldn't get sacked
Larry_LCFC Posted 22 December 2013 Posted 22 December 2013 And how do you know the same doesn't apply? If it did, then there would be no-one left serving. You would have to apply it to jewish people, Sikhs, vegetarians, vegans etc etc. Suddenly everyone can claim they dont want to sell this and that because they dont believe in it. The list would go on and on until it became absolutely stupid. Once you introduce a policy like this, where does it stop?
Mark_w Posted 22 December 2013 Posted 22 December 2013 come on, you think a vegetarian would not get sacked for refusing to sell meat. I want someone to actually prove it rather than randomly speculate.
Kitchandro Posted 22 December 2013 Posted 22 December 2013 Yep. Every singly Muslim is ridiculous. er, yeh, that is one of the main beliefs of Islam is it not? Are you suggesting that most Muslims aren't that sensitive?
Kitchandro Posted 22 December 2013 Posted 22 December 2013 They wouldn't get sacked You underestimate what people get sacked for.
Rincewind Posted 22 December 2013 Posted 22 December 2013 A few people who happen to be muslims are alledged to have resused to sell certain items and the whole lot are stereotyped. Typical of the British press.
Corky Posted 22 December 2013 Posted 22 December 2013 It's M&S's business, don't know why anyone else would be interested. This isn't just any refusal, this is an M&S refusal.
StanSP Posted 22 December 2013 Posted 22 December 2013 er, yeh, that is one of the main beliefs of Islam is it not? Are you suggesting that most Muslims aren't that sensitive? Every Muslim isn't that ridiculous. And most Muslims that I've come across (a lot) are not that sensitive and really wouldn't give a shit about this kind of thing.
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