Strokes Posted 22 December 2013 Posted 22 December 2013 Able and cole deliver my food at this time of year, i just hope they dont have this policy in the packing department, else my xmas dinner will be a bit different.
Rincewind Posted 22 December 2013 Posted 22 December 2013 The story certainly deflects peoples attention from other issues. Not everyone can afford to shop at M&S anyway.
Larry_LCFC Posted 22 December 2013 Posted 22 December 2013 Able and cole deliver my food at this time of year, i just hope they dont have this policy in the packing department, else my xmas dinner will be a bit different. sausage anyone?
Finnaldo Posted 22 December 2013 Posted 22 December 2013 How long will that take? I'm not there for their convenience. Generally in my experience (ASDA mostly, not any M&S stores nearby) a minute at most. If people can't take a couple of minutes out of their day to wait for another assistant then I despair.
MooseBreath Posted 23 December 2013 Posted 23 December 2013 The story certainly deflects peoples attention from other issues. Not everyone can afford to shop at M&S anyway. You're right I can see the entire nation being focussed purely on this for the forseeable future now.
Strokes Posted 23 December 2013 Posted 23 December 2013 I prefer venison to pork anyway. its a bit deer for me.
Jimothy Posted 23 December 2013 Posted 23 December 2013 Totally agree with Larry on this, and I'm as far from the bigoted "send Muslims back to their own county" types you can get. You take a job, already in the knowledge they sell these products, you do the job you're hired for. I'm not Muslim, I'm over 18, what right do they have to refuse my lawful purchase and force their beliefs on me? I'm not asking them to consume the products. You wouldn't be too chuffed if you were in a car accident and went to hospital where you need blood and the Jehovah's Witness doctor refused you a blood transfusion whilst you lay at deaths door would you? You take a job, you undertake the tasks expected of you in said job. What next, are they going to stop serving people food during the light hours of Ramadan? Totally ridiculous from anyone involved in either making or asking for this policy, a policy that only serves to divide people and highlight differences.
The Doctor Posted 23 December 2013 Posted 23 December 2013 True. Could argue health reasons for not eating Pork though. Not really, pigs are remarkably clean animals when allowed to be rather than shoved in styes in captivity and forced to live in inappropriate conditions, and as white meat are a lot healthier than beef, lamb and other red meats. [ Pork - Murder of innocent animals. Alcohol - Severe health risks. Insane reasons? Alcohol does not present a severe health risk though, rather in moderation it can be quite beneficial: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/270379.php
Captain... Posted 23 December 2013 Posted 23 December 2013 I've walked out of tescos before now because the queues were ridiculous. If I was at a till and the check out assistant refused to put through some beer so that I had to queue up somewhere else or wait 5 minutes for someone else to put it through I'd tell them to shove it. The shop is supposed to be there at my convenience not the other way round. What if they are under 18? They are not permitted to sell alcohol and are supposed to call over a supervisor to oversee the sale, at least that was true when I was working in kwik save. It'd be the same thing, I guess, they call over a supervisor to take over the sale.
Captain... Posted 23 December 2013 Posted 23 December 2013 Alcohol does not present a severe health risk though, rather in moderation it can be quite beneficial: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/270379.php Does that mean I've had an extremely beneficial weekend?
Strokes Posted 23 December 2013 Posted 23 December 2013 What if they are under 18? They are not permitted to sell alcohol and are supposed to call over a supervisor to oversee the sale, at least that was true when I was working in kwik save. It'd be the same thing, I guess, they call over a supervisor to take over the sale.I'm just guessing but as this has never happend in any major supermarket to me, I would say they don't put under 18s on the till.
The Doctor Posted 23 December 2013 Posted 23 December 2013 What if they are under 18? They are not permitted to sell alcohol and are supposed to call over a supervisor to oversee the sale, at least that was true when I was working in kwik save. It'd be the same thing, I guess, they call over a supervisor to take over the sale. Fairly certain that supermarkets operate on the same premise as pubs - look underage, no I.D., sling yer 'ook.
Amin Posted 23 December 2013 Posted 23 December 2013 As a Muslim, I've always been told not to put myself in a position where I would be required to sell alcohol, pork or any other prohibited products. I don't think it is fair to expect my employers to bend over backwards to accommodate my religious beliefs. If I can't do the job, I won't apply for it.
anotherharboroughfox Posted 23 December 2013 Posted 23 December 2013 If any of you read the non Daily Mail versions of this story. A spokesperson for M&S said: "Where we have an employee whose religious beliefs restrict food or drink they can handle, we work closely with our member of staff to place them in suitable role, such as in our clothing department or bakery in foods. so it's just an internal **** up that's lead the Daily Fail to put a spin on it. They've just twisted the story to their purpose. Simple as.
Danno Posted 23 December 2013 Posted 23 December 2013 Astonishing ignorance on show here by the usual suspects. Any opportunity to have a go they will take it.
Captain... Posted 23 December 2013 Posted 23 December 2013 I'm just guessing but as this has never happend in any major supermarket to me, I would say they don't put under 18s on the till. I worked in kwik save when I was 17 every time someone bought alcohol I had to call over a manager or supervisor to oversee the sale. It was a small shop (the one in Birstall) and sometimes it was just me and a manager working so there was nobody else to go on the tills.
Captain... Posted 23 December 2013 Posted 23 December 2013 If any of you read the non Daily Mail versions of this story. so it's just an internal **** up that's lead the Daily Fail to put a spin on it. They've just twisted the story to their purpose. Simple as. It was probably a case of them needing more people on the tills for Christmas and asking their Muslim staff who don't normally work the tills for that reason if they could. They said they weren't comfortable doing so, so they agreed that if called upon to work on the till in an emergency they would be able to refuse to sell alcohol and pork. Otherwise it is just too ridiculous. Religious beliefs should not dictate how you do your job, otherwise you'll have Catholics refusing to sell condoms, Hindus refusing to sell beef, Buddhists refusing to accept money, and everyone refusing to serve homosexuals.
Webbo Posted 23 December 2013 Posted 23 December 2013 What if they are under 18? They are not permitted to sell alcohol and are supposed to call over a supervisor to oversee the sale, at least that was true when I was working in kwik save. It'd be the same thing, I guess, they call over a supervisor to take over the sale. If I had bad service at any shop I would be unlikely to use that shop again. This has nothing to do with Muslims for me,how m&s run their business is up to them,the idea that we should all be happy to stand around and wait for the shop assistant s benefit is ridiculous. We're the customers, why should we be inconvenienced?
Zingari Posted 23 December 2013 Posted 23 December 2013 If I had bad service at any shop I would be unlikely to use that shop again. This has nothing to do with Muslims for me,how m&s run their business is up to them,the idea that we should all be happy to stand around and wait for the shop assistant s benefit is ridiculous. We're the customers, why should we be inconvenienced? i hope you don't use pig hair bristle brushes when you paint a muslim's house :xmassmile:
Guest MattP Posted 23 December 2013 Posted 23 December 2013 Hardly a surprise. I'm surprised muslims actually have to do anything anywhere without some sort of special premise having to be put in place for it.
Captain... Posted 23 December 2013 Posted 23 December 2013 If I had bad service at any shop I would be unlikely to use that shop again. This has nothing to do with Muslims for me,how m&s run their business is up to them,the idea that we should all be happy to stand around and wait for the shop assistant s benefit is ridiculous. We're the customers, why should we be inconvenienced? But if it is the only option, to either have a Muslim on the till refusing to sell alcohol and pork, or nobody on that till when it is busy, then I can see why it could benefit the customer to put the Muslim on the till. I'm pretty sure they would prefer to have someone on the till who could sell everything, but if it is a Muslim (or under 18) or nobody, then I can see why they would try and accomodate them. I do hope they make it clear to customers in the queue that pork and alcohol products will not be sold at that till, so you don't get delayed waiting for a supervisor.
Guest MattP Posted 23 December 2013 Posted 23 December 2013 I do hope they make it clear to customers in the queue that pork and alcohol products will not be sold at that till, so you don't get delayed waiting for a supervisor. If we ever get a situation like that it's up to all decent people everywhere tp boycott the shop. Obscene to even consider such warped thinking would ve tolerated in this day and age. If they don't like it get a job elsewhere.
Zingari Posted 23 December 2013 Posted 23 December 2013 if you've got shares in M and S maybe its time to think about selling them judging by the comments on the mail story .
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