Uncle Albert Posted 22 January 2014 Posted 22 January 2014 Is Jose Mourinho a complete idiot or very smart in selling Juan Mata to Man United? Stupid in the sense of making a rival stronger or smarter in the sense that Man United will now have Mata playing against City and Arsenal.. I have no idea what to think but I wouldn't have sold Mata to Man United.
Fox92 Posted 22 January 2014 Posted 22 January 2014 Neither? If a player wants to leave and club A are the only club to bid then let him go? It's not like it's the first time selling a great player to a rival has ever happened.
Uncle Albert Posted 22 January 2014 Author Posted 22 January 2014 Something very un Jose Mourinho though don't you think? Especially in the position that Man United are in, why make them stronger? Surely Man United finishing out of the Champions League places makes them weaker next season in terms of attracting players and so on. Why would Mourinho sell them Mata and give them a boost in making top four?
Unabomber Posted 22 January 2014 Posted 22 January 2014 I think Mourinho is good at what he does in terms of winning things and having immediate success. However I don't believe that it is the best way to go about things, especially with regards to not giving youngsters a chance and either loaning them out or selling them on. Mourinho has a very set way of doing things and unfortunately if you are not part of his rigid set up (Mata) then no matter how good you are he will get rid. I think if he does sell Mata he will do it to show that a) things have to be done his way or you are out b) he doesn't see Man U as an immediate threat to him and Chelsea.
Guest MattP Posted 22 January 2014 Posted 22 January 2014 Man Utd aren't title contenders, they are battling for fourth with Liverpool, Spurs and Everton. Chelsea, Arsenal and Man City are battling for the top spot. (So by that token it's probably smart) That said I wouldn't have sold him though, I think he's one of the best players in the division, I suppose he needs to sell, wouldn;t surprise me to see that 40million go on Falcao or Costa to play up front.
ousefox Posted 22 January 2014 Posted 22 January 2014 To be honest, Moyes has had terrible luck with injuries, but once his best players are back with Mata they could have Rooney, Van Persie, Mata, Januzaj, Fellaini, De Gea, Rafael, Vidic and Evans in the starting XI and will begin to look very strong again.
21st Century Fox Posted 22 January 2014 Posted 22 January 2014 Chelsea aren't really in a position with FFP to let an asset depreciate in value whilst sitting on the bench. They're getting a premium for selling him to United, making a tidy profit and it's clear he isn't in Mourinho's plans. United could still do with some decent players around him for him to be at his most effective.
kingfox Posted 22 January 2014 Posted 22 January 2014 Juan Mata was probably Chelsea's best player last season. I think it's absolutely ridiculous letting him go, Manchester United would have a top player on their hands, and like Arsenal with Ozil, he could well make Manchester United better in an instant. If Manchester United could then get someone like Gundogan in the Summer, a new winger & new centre back, then they could well be back on track to do well in the Prem again.
ealingfox Posted 22 January 2014 Posted 22 January 2014 I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if this was all a ruse. Mourinho and the Man U job are like Snape and the Defence Against the Dark Arts job. He's always wanted it, and knows he will get it eventually. It's not that he doesn't rate Mata, it's the opposite. He knows Moyesy is no threat to the title, but will probably be sacked if he fails to get top 4. He knows that even with Mata Moyes will fail to get top 4. Over the summer Moyes will be sacked, and Mou will be waiting in the wings to betray Chelsea and get that which he has always craved, being reunited with his best player in the process. This is why they didn't sign Rooney in the summer when they so obviously could have done, Mou was only pretending to pursue him.
Fox92 Posted 22 January 2014 Posted 22 January 2014 Juan Mata was probably Chelsea's best player last season. I think it's absolutely ridiculous letting him go, Manchester United would have a top player on their hands, and like Arsenal with Ozil, he could well make Manchester United better in an instant. If Manchester United could then get someone like Gundogan in the Summer, a new winger & new centre back, then they could well be back on track to do well in the Prem again. He has won player of the season for the last two years. Any other Chelsea manager apart from Mourinho wouldn't get away with not picking him, and possibly selling him. You know what Chelsea fans are like.
AyewJoking Posted 22 January 2014 Posted 22 January 2014 i think there is certainly something afoot be it tactics from jose or financial reasons. personally i think it might be the sweetener for Rooney to join Chelsea.
xHamzah Posted 22 January 2014 Posted 22 January 2014 With an ego like his, i can imagine him coming out and saying "We sold our best player last season and we still won the premier league" or something along those lines.
Guest MattP Posted 22 January 2014 Posted 22 January 2014 I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if this was all a ruse. Mourinho and the Man U job are like Snape and the Defence Against the Dark Arts job. He's always wanted it, and knows he will get it eventually. It's not that he doesn't rate Mata, it's the opposite. He knows Moyesy is no threat to the title, but will probably be sacked if he fails to get top 4. He knows that even with Mata Moyes will fail to get top 4. Over the summer Moyes will be sacked, and Mou will be waiting in the wings to betray Chelsea and get that which he has always craved, being reunited with his best player in the process. This is why they didn't sign Rooney in the summer when they so obviously could have done, Mou was only pretending to pursue him. That's a consipracy theory Zingari would be proud of Do you really think he he deliberately dropping a player he rates (while in with a strong chance of the League and Champions League) just as he might a job he always wanted that he actually could have taken last season anyway? It doesn't make sense in any way, shape of form. If he actually really does want the Man U job the last thing he will be doing is giving them a player that could possibly put them into the Chanpions League and saving Moyes job at the same time.
ealingfox Posted 22 January 2014 Posted 22 January 2014 That's a consipracy theory Zingari would be proud of Do you really think he he deliberately dropping a player he rates (while in with a strong chance of the League and Champions League) just as he might a job he always wanted that he actually could have taken last season anyway? It doesn't make sense in any way, shape of form. If he actually really does want the Man U job the last thing he will be doing is giving them a player that could possibly put them into the Chanpions League and saving Moyes job at the same time. 'Tis mostly tongue-in-cheek, as yes it isn't the most efficient nor the most logically consistent plan. However there are answers to your questions. Yes, he would. He dropped Casillas at RM as a stamp of authority, and (even in reality) I feel this has to be the same. Why else would he not be playing Mata, their best player? He couldn't have taken it last season because he wasn't offered it. Also he wouldn't want to be Fergie's direct successor.
Mack Posted 22 January 2014 Posted 22 January 2014 Mourinho is for me a genius in Football Management for me. Who else could have frozen out Chelsea's 'best' player and fan voted player of the season last term, and no only got away with it, but begun to build Chelsea into a better side without him. Mata is obviously not Jose's cup of tea, so he'll sell him on for a very large fee to a side that right now cant go toe to toe with Chelsea. Win win all round.
foxfanazer Posted 22 January 2014 Posted 22 January 2014 Unbelievable manager no doubt but for me Mata on his day is in the top 2 or 3 players in that league. He must play! Don't sell him to United anyway
Guest MattP Posted 22 January 2014 Posted 22 January 2014 'Tis mostly tongue-in-cheek, as yes it isn't the most efficient nor the most logically consistent plan. However there are answers to your questions. Yes, he would. He dropped Casillas at RM as a stamp of authority, and (even in reality) I feel this has to be the same. Why else would he not be playing Mata, their best player? He probably just doesn't see him working in the side is he building and to be fair you cant knock him at the minute, he generally doesn't see him fitting into the way they play and he may rate Hazard, Oscar etc as better. 40million is big money as well, that can buy him the World Class striker we all know he wants.
ealingfox Posted 22 January 2014 Posted 22 January 2014 He probably just doesn't see him working in the side is he building and to be fair you cant knock him at the minute, he generally doesn't see him fitting into the way they play and he may rate Hazard, Oscar etc as better. 40million is big money as well, that can buy him the World Class striker we all know he wants. Sort of agree, but I do think the whole marking his authority thing comes into it. Mata is a better player than Willian, who is no different to the interchangeable trio that they had been playing with behind the striker, yet somehow he has taken Mata's place. And you can knock him really, because bar the FA Cup which they win every year anyway, they'll win fvck all this season. What I also don't understand is why nobody abroad has dived in and bitten Chelsea's hand off. Surely Mou would rather sell him abroad than to another Prem team? Unless he has designs on managing Mata in the future of course....
Bayfox Posted 22 January 2014 Posted 22 January 2014 Chelsea are looking to sell to buy. So 40 million for a player you dont want is just good business. if chelsea bank that money expect it to get spent on a striker if not now in the summer. and on the real madrid gk issue. Who has been no1 for most of this season?
Kyle_Le_Don Posted 22 January 2014 Posted 22 January 2014 Mourinho to United in the future? =O Clever
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 22 January 2014 Posted 22 January 2014 Taking 40mil pounds off United isn't a bad result tho
Buzzell Posted 22 January 2014 Posted 22 January 2014 After last years campaign, I'm quite surprised Mata can't get into the Chelsea team and the fact Jose can't seem to fit him into his team. He's such a quality player, but for £35m gives Jose the cash to possibly look for a decent striker. Surprised they haven't tried adding Rooney to the deal.
Richard Posted 25 January 2014 Posted 25 January 2014 I heard at the start of the season a reason for mata being dropped was because he was so pally with Casillas and co at Madrid and his whole power struggle there.
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