In defence of 'Plastic fans'

[jamfox]

Even if you had the most 'plastic' fan sat in front of you talking lots of 'plastic' talk, it shouldn't be that annoying. I mean, I don't like them as much as other fans, but I don't see why it's so hard to tolerate them, and if you can't tolerate then ignore. There hardly detrimental to the atmosphere, they just don't contribute much to it. If the majority of the kop had a great atmosphere, would you notice a couple of fans sat down watching iplayer?

I've been to quite a few Liverpool games as I have family over that way, there's often quite a lot of day-trippers there like myself. But when your in their kop you feel obliged to join in with certain chants as that mentality swamps you.

If we focus on creating an atmosphere that people will want to join in with, surely that's better than any hostility towards them.

 

 

Well said.  why more people cant see this is very sad..

[Fox92]

The plastics are the kind who leave with 10 mins to go when your 3-0 down, but you should be staying behind to clap the players for their performance during the rest of the season.

 

We have a long distance to travel and have to be up early in the morning. Add to the fact it was a poor performance in which certain players didn't look bothered. 

 

That's the reason why we left early. Does it make me plastic? Ok. I've been a season ticket holder since the stadium opened in 2002. Does that make me more of a fan? No... Games cost money, and a hell of a lot, and when you've paid for a ticket (either a season ticket or just for one game) you have a right to do whatever. Other fans shouldn't be the judge. 

[morris1234]

I agree

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Sorry...

[Bellend Sebastian]

Do you think that so called 'plastic' fans (by which I mean the ones that come out of the woodwork for big occasions) are actually really shit at choosing what games to come to?

 

I can understand that the club would attract attention having secured promotion, but as I sat there last night I did start to wonder why so many people had decided that this was the game to make an appearance at.  With the season's primary objective already achieved, surely this would be the game if there was ever one where, after a weekend on the piss, the players were likely to take their foot off the gas.  I never expected us to lose by such a margin but against decent opposition with something still very much to play for, the outcome was never the given that people seemed to expect.

 

The other time I've thought this was the Man City game, which was probably one of the least enjoyable fixtures I've been to this season.  Over as a contest very early on, and the opposition winning at a canter was a disappointing but hardly surprising outcome.  As a spectacle it was crap, and the place was rammed.

 

I really think that if you're a part timer for whatever reason you're far better off choosing fixtures pretty much at random

[Lobsterboyuk]

We have a long distance to travel and have to be up early in the morning. Add to the fact it was a poor performance in which certain players didn't look bothered. 

 

That's the reason why we left early. Does it make me plastic? Ok. I've been a season ticket holder since the stadium opened in 2002. Does that make me more of a fan? No... Games cost money, and a hell of a lot, and when you've paid for a ticket (either a season ticket or just for one game) you have a right to do whatever. Other fans shouldn't be the judge. 

 

So who can judge who and for what? You judged the players performance as poor (which it was) and yet you don't see why I can't also judge your performance as a supporter as poor (which it was), especially as a STH failing to show a little of bit of respect to our newly promoted team and stay until full time and give them a clap. You have a right to leave early, I have a right to criticise you for that.

[Sharpe's Fox]

I don't go to every game but it does irritate me when people leave early since they've paid to go in, what really is happening in those 10 minutes you so obviously can't afford to miss?

[Fox92]

So who can judge who and for what? You judged the players performance as poor (which it was) and yet you don't see why I can't also judge your performance as a supporter as poor (which it was), especially as a STH failing to show a little of bit of respect to our newly promoted team and stay until full time and give them a clap. You have a right to leave early, I have a right to criticise you for that.

 

Yeah, fair play. You do have a right I suppose, but would I call myself 'plastic' for that? No way.

 

Although we as fans pay the players, so the 'bit of respect' works both ways. 

[Lobsterboyuk]

Yeah, fair play. You do have a right I suppose, but would I call myself 'plastic' for that? No way.

 

Although we as fans pay the players, so the 'bit of respect' works both ways. 

 

I don't call anybody in that stadium last night "plastic" for leaving early, angry and frustrated yes. I was angry and frustrated at the lack of atmosphere hence my reaction to the fourth goal leavers.

[Guest Col city fan]

For me I think it's pretty sad that some people think they are better fans than others just because they can make more games. A leicester fan is a leicester fan.

I have been to two games this season. Barnsley away and last night. Am I plastic?

Was I plastic when I stood and watched us lose 7-1 at Newcastle? Or lose a 4-2 lead in ten minutes at the same ground? Or was I plastic when i travelled all the way to the goldstone ground ( that's brightons ground for all those young lads chanting about plastic fans ) only for the game to be called off as we pulled up in Brighton.

Or how about when I was at Portman road to see us lose 4-0 on a freezing Boxing Day.....

Or even when we lost at a freezing boundary park on a plastic pitch?

I have chalked up hundreds of games and thousands of miles. My circumstances dictate I can't get as much these days. Does that make me plastic?

The plastic bit is not right. However, I did feel the fans leaving on the 4th goal was a tad embarrassing. I certainly didn't. But again, some of these people have work that very night. A chap on my row left on the 4th goal because he was at work at 11pm. I think he's justified in that,

For me, I think people need to shut up about the plastic debate and get on with following a team we all love.

Absolutely spot on and couldn't have put it better myself.

I think the bulk of those who think they are 'real fans' ( and chant as such) are just kids. They'll learn.

The club needs to make money, like any club. Football is a business and we need big attendances. Did someone post a thread about 'rather having 22k fans' or summat?

That's a great way to take the club forward...

Again, great post buddy.

[Fox92]

I don't call anybody in that stadium last night "plastic" for leaving early, angry and frustrated yes. I was angry and frustrated at the lack of atmosphere hence my reaction to the fourth goal leavers.

 

I wasn't aiming that at you, more at the context of the thread as it states "plastic fans".

[buzzy]

Too much fuss about nothing. It was always going to happen. Day trippers have every right to be there and expected a win and were probably disappointed.

 

Who cares, personally I despise people leaving early, but they have a right, some dick behind me was shouting at full time saying load of sh1t. Makes me angry but it's always going to happen.

 

Doesnt matter, we're promoted, if we loose every game till the end of the season I couldnt give a monkeys. The squad has been in top gear all season, I'd rather they tire and give up now than 3 months ago like last year.

what a stupid thing to say in your last sentence. I for one give a shit that we win at least 3 games to clinch the championship,if not all of them. that's the problem with a lot of fans on this forum there happy with second best all the time. on the other point this plastic thing is utter shite I don't give a shit how many games people go to as long as they support city I don't give a crap. I for one have only been to 2 games this season due to work and money but any one calling me plastic will get a 2 letter word reply back

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

Yes, there are tons of good reasons.

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[Mark_w]

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[Trav Le Bleu]

Why should people stay and watch another 10 minutes of what was a shocking performance?

If the crowd had been the more normal 23k there would still have been plenty leaving with 10 minutes to go.

People can applaud at the QPR or Donny games when we've hopefully become Champions.

 

Cerainly, but I doubt there would have been so many (and I mean that as a percentage - obviously with a bigger crowd there would be more people leaving.) I suspect many of those people won't go to the QPR or Donny game and if they do and we play awful again, then should they stay behind and applaud. By your criteria, no.

 

We have a long distance to travel and have to be up early in the morning. Add to the fact it was a poor performance in which certain players didn't look bothered. 

 

That's the reason why we left early. Does it make me plastic? Ok. I've been a season ticket holder since the stadium opened in 2002. Does that make me more of a fan? No... Games cost money, and a hell of a lot, and when you've paid for a ticket (either a season ticket or just for one game) you have a right to do whatever. Other fans shouldn't be the judge. 

 

Does 10 mins really make that much difference? I have to get up at 5.30 every workday, which I doubt many in the crowd did and after dropping everyone in my party off, I didn't get home until 11, even though I live in Leicester. I'm not saying I'm better because of that (there are those who would acuse me of being plastic because I only go to 4-5 games a season), but I don't get the leaving early because your team is playing badly. Support to me is not conditional.

 

 

 

I really think that if you're a part timer for whatever reason you're far better off choosing fixtures pretty much at random

 

Tru dat.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

The fans around me in SK1 last night were a disgrace. More focused on turning on our own support than supporting the team. Embaressing

SKI. That's the kiddies block. What did you expect from a herd of numpties? 

[Trav Le Bleu]

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[Trav Le Bleu]

I think the upturn in atmosphere was largely down to gallows humour which often happens when your team is getting stuffed. 

 

The players will be clapped and lauded for promotion come the end of the season against Doncaster. They didn't deserve any applause at all for last night's performance.

 

And if we're awful against Doncaster?

[Trav Le Bleu]

The fans around me in SK1 last night were a disgrace. More focused on turning on our own support than supporting the team. Embaressing

 

That is a valid point and whilst I have a thread in praise of SK1, it doesn't help to turn on fellow supporters and isn't conducive to getting more people to sing. But I don't think there really wasn't much abuse against our own fans. The cheerio chant was ironic though and if anyone leaving early couldn't take it, well meh.

 

What you really need to get singing back is a standing section. However, since we got promoted, that's now just a little bit further from happening

[Fox92]

 

Does 10 mins really make that much difference? I have to get up at 5.30 every workday, which I doubt many in the crowd did and after dropping everyone in my party off, I didn't get home until 11, even though I live in Leicester. I'm not saying I'm better because of that (there are those who would acuse me of being plastic because I only go to 4-5 games a season), but I don't get the leaving early because your team is playing badly. Support to me is not conditional.

 

 

I suppose it's when the team is playing that bad, and certain players don't look up for it, it's just frustrating to sit through.

 

Yes I know we've had a wonderful season and all that, not forgetting that it's us that pay the players, but we've still paid to sit through that game. If someone saves their hard-earned money and can only get to yesterday's fixture and then they see such a poor performance, what the hell are they thinking? They probably don't want to come again! 

 

I totally get your point, and I'm not disagreeing with you here. Like in the other thread, I see both sides of the argument, but we've still paid for the game (and it's not cheap) and I believe when you've paid you are entitled to do what you want regardless of league position. On the day, we were poor but Brighton were totally better than us. 

[broughtonblue]

Anyone who left early yesterday, despite it being a poor performance isn't really a supporter in my eyes.

The team had just gone 23 games unbeaten, got promotion with 18 points still to play for, and this was the first opportunity to congratulate them, if you couldn't be bothered to stay and applaud that achievement I really don't think you should be going down

[Number 6]

Don't like people leaving early (and it does affect others who have to keep fudging standing up for you during the match and impeding views) but the chanting does not happen every week. However, after the side had just achieved promotion it feels a bit crass to just walk out on them. The last 10 minutes were brilliant. I stayed to applaud them because for 99% of this season they have been brilliant. 

 

Expect more of it next season folks.

[Gubbins]

And if we're awful against Doncaster?

 

That is the end of the season and no doubt there will be a walk around by the players, (hopefully!) The trophy will be on display and Queen and Status Quo will annoyingly be pumped out of the tannoy all to rapturous applause for a season's hard work. I don't think however they will get that immediately on the final whistle if they perform like last night. Applause at the end of a game is based on what has just happened on the pitch not over what has happened previously over the season otherwise last night would be the first time they would have been applauded all season!

[Monsell1976]

Personally I hate the term. I think any fan who jumps with joy when his/her team wins and feels the hurt after a loss is a true fan. All the other talk about 'plastics' is inverse snobbery of the worst kind. Why do some feel the need to differentiate themselves as being more authentic fans than others? It's not as if we are Man Utd have millions more fans living outside the city compared to those who live within the city boundaries. Might it be the case that the term originates from the fans of those 'big' clubs anyway? We are not even at that stage. Yet. So why have we adopted it? And are there really any good reasons why one Leicester fan should sneer at another Leicester fan? What would the club think about that?

Good post, don't get the them and us, people have many reason why they don't go as much, and any club will gain 'glory' supporters, that's what makes a clubs fan base grow when successful.

[Fox92]

Anyone who left early yesterday, despite it being a poor performance isn't really a supporter in my eyes.

The team had just gone 23 games unbeaten, got promotion with 18 points still to play for, and this was the first opportunity to congratulate them, if you couldn't be bothered to stay and applaud that achievement I really don't think you should be going down

 

So having paid the money, paying the players, you then have to sit through a terrible performance just to clap the players? I don't think so. 

 

I left early yesterday. I'm a STH, and have been for 11 years. I've sat through defeats at places like Bramall Lane, I've travelled to Cheltenham and Stockport, I've seen us get beat at home by teams like Sheffield Wednesday and I was at Stoke in May 2008... But somebody comes only because we're top and decides to clap the players after the game, he's more of a fan than me/he's a real fan and I'm not?

[Harry - LCFC]

 

For me I think it's pretty sad that some people think they are better fans than others just because they can make more games. A leicester fan is a leicester fan.

I have been to two games this season. Barnsley away and last night. Am I plastic?

Was I plastic when I stood and watched us lose 7-1 at Newcastle? Or lose a 4-2 lead in ten minutes at the same ground? Or was I plastic when i travelled all the way to the goldstone ground ( that's brightons ground for all those young lads chanting about plastic fans ) only for the game to be called off as we pulled up in Brighton.

Or how about when I was at Portman road to see us lose 4-0 on a freezing Boxing Day.....

Or even when we lost at a freezing boundary park on a plastic pitch?

I have chalked up hundreds of games and thousands of miles. My circumstances dictate I can't get as much these days. Does that make me plastic?

The plastic bit is not right. However, I did feel the fans leaving on the 4th goal was a tad embarrassing. I certainly didn't. But again, some of these people have work that very night. A chap on my row left on the 4th goal because he was at work at 11pm. I think he's justified in that,

For me, I think people need to shut up about the plastic debate and get on with following a team we all love.

 

I think you've made a bit of a contradiction there. Having said the number of games attended doesn't matter you've then gone on to describe in detail the efforts you've made to follow the team.

 

Surely if one's level of commitment doesn't matter you wouldn't have felt the need to show everyone that you also have made sacrifices in order to watch Leicester?

 

 

SKI. That's the kiddies block. What did you expect from a herd of numpties? 

 

May I ask why you think a person's age matters here?