GTF gets his extended..

[Harry - LCFC]

Nowhere near standard required for the premier league, surely a sympathy contract in view of his good contribution this season.

 

You have to be ruthless I'm afraid, I would be shocked to see him even feature in the premier league and I would have to question Pearson's judgement in this situation. I recall him saying he'd get players if they were 'good enough', not 'good lads'.

 

Managers don't hand out 'sympathy contracts' that take up valuable resources. Not when things like PL status and their job are at stake. Decisions are based entirely on footballing matters.

 

Not that what I've said is particularly relevant as no decision was made here.

[ozleicester]

 

Season ticket for sale. 

 

Im in a queue

[CKB]

To the guys who are freaking out over this, CHILL!

He hardly started in the Championship so he won't start in the Premiership
He's obviously earned his deal and i reckon he's good to have around the place
Just because he's earned his deal doesn't mean we aren't looking at them positions

But anyway like i said he won't start games, he may get bench time and the odd sub appearance but that's it.. NP knows what's needed for the PL, 3/4 signings that could come straight in or certainly feature as the months go on and we SHOULD be good to go! I think NP and GTF know the deal, he will start the odd cup game and maybe the odd sub appearance that is it!

[Soar Fox]

Of those, just Moore.

Are you sure? I thought the rules were players had to have been with the club for 36 months before they are 21.

Andy King joined when he was 15.

Jeff Schlupp only turned 21 in December and he'd been here a lot longer than 3 years imagine.

[indierich06]

Are you sure? I thought the rules were players had to have been with the club for 36 months before they are 21.

Andy King joined when he was 15.

Jeff Schlupp only turned 21 in December and he'd been here a lot longer than 3 years imagine.

Yeah, but any players over 21 have to be registered, don't they?

[Alexikokopops]

Are you sure? I thought the rules were players had to have been with the club for 36 months before they are 21.

Andy King joined when he was 15.

Jeff Schlupp only turned 21 in December and he'd been here a lot longer than 3 years imagine.

Isn't that for the homegrown quota, not whether they have to be registered or not?

[Rob1742]

The whole squad ethic is important. Getting the right experience and characters in the mix.

Pearson has said Hammond was a real important player, yet he was only a bit part player.

Probably with Philips retiring Pearson thinks it is important that we maintain the right types in the dressing room, even if their playing contribution will be limited.

Chris Powell was a massive player for us, in a similar way possibly.

David Pleat once brought Alan Birchenall at the end of his career. The Birch thought it was for his left foot, but Pleat told him years after that the dressing room was just too quiet and he brought him just to liven it up.

There are usually plenty of disruptive types in a dressing room, we have had our fair share over the years. So I suppose GTF is there to possibly ensure any future signings, whose personalities are unknown has a balance with players like GTF.

So I am reading into it, that GTF maybe important in other ways than his playing contribution.

I know for a fact that Wasyl was a great addition to the dressing room. Came in to train in his days off sonetimes, always shook hands with everyone in the group and was and is the perfect professional. Maybe he gets replaced next year, who knows, but again he is one that won't cause friction and will always have a positive approach within the group.

[MalarkyR]

The whole squad ethic is important. Getting the right experience and characters in the mix.

Pearson has said Hammond was a real important player, yet he was only a bit part player.

Probably with Philips retiring Pearson thinks it is important that we maintain the right types in the dressing room, even if their playing contribution will be limited.

Chris Powell was a massive player for us, in a similar way possibly.

David Pleat once brought Alan Birchenall at the end of his career. The Birch thought it was for his left foot, but Pleat told him years after that the dressing room was just too quiet and he brought him just to liven it up.

There are usually plenty of disruptive types in a dressing room, we have had our fair share over the years. So I suppose GTF is there to possibly ensure any future signings, whose personalities are unknown has a balance with players like GTF.

So I am reading into it, that GTF maybe important in other ways than his playing contribution.

I know for a fact that Wasyl was a great addition to the dressing room. Came in to train in his days off sonetimes, always shook hands with everyone in the group and was and is the perfect professional. Maybe he gets replaced next year, who knows, but again he is one that won't cause friction and will always have a positive approach within the group.

 

I'd echo what's said here, and throw into the mix the thought that GTF needs to feel loved and appreciated by the supporters or he'll be less effective in this role! Some people need to grow a few brain cells and look at the bigger picture!

[LAprice_]

The hate that GTF gets is completely irrational. First he gets hated for not having an athletic physique. Then people moan because he defends his family when thousands charge at toddlers. Now people are unhappy because he apparently won't be good enough for a league that we've not even played in yet.

 

We add experience then get promoted AND now we want to get rid of all that experience? I guess you'd also kick out Konchesky, Hammond, Dyer, Wasyl. Keep the squad together and build on that. We don't need to knock it down and start from scratch.

 

 

He's done absolutely nothing wrong.

[Fox Ulike]

Good signing. GTF is more mobile than Chris Wood, and more effective than Knockaert:

 

He missed pre-season last year, and yes he’s a big lad.

 

If he can get his fitness sorted he could play a few games for us next year.

 

I can’t understand how anybody can write him off 3 months before the season even starts.

[ImBlue]

Good signing. GTF is more mobile than Chris Wood, and more effective than Knockaert:

He missed pre-season last year, and yes he’s a big lad.

If he can get his fitness sorted he could play a few games for us next year.

I can’t understand how anybody can write him off 3 months before the season even starts.

Wow, first 2 statements up there with the worst I've read

I think this year given to GTF seems to be out of pity. He got lots of appearances last year off the bench when most were amazed he was getting the nod and his introduction was just not necessary.

I would have rather you saved that money and kept Lloyd on a 2 year deal that he wants. Lloyd will be 33 at the end of that contract, the same as GTF. Lloyd scares defenders and will for a few years yet, GTF NEVER HAS.

[Guest Col city fan]

The hate that GTF gets is completely irrational. First he gets hated for not having an athletic physique. Then people moan because he defends his family when thousands charge at toddlers. Now people are unhappy because he apparently won't be good enough for a league that we've not even played in yet.

We add experience then get promoted AND now we want to get rid of all that experience? I guess you'd also kick out Konchesky, Hammond, Dyer, Wasyl. Keep the squad together and build on that. We don't need to knock it down and start from scratch.

He's done absolutely nothing wrong.

Typical FT... 'hate'... who the fook 'hates' GTF? Some of us merely don't think he's very good.

I think Vardy is very good.. so I'll say so.

I don't think GTF is very good, so I'll say so.

There's no 'hate' here, merely a view.

In the past I was criticised for my 'hate' of Sven and Beckford... Meh.. I just didn't think either were very good.

[Fox Ulike]

Wow, first 2 statements up there with the worst I've read

I think this year given to GTF seems to be out of pity. He got lots of appearances last year off the bench when most were amazed he was getting the nod and his introduction was just not necessary.

I would have rather you saved that money and kept Lloyd on a 2 year deal that he wants. Lloyd will be 33 at the end of that contract, the same as GTF. Lloyd scares defenders and will for a few years yet, GTF NEVER HAS.

 

Plenty more where that came from sunshine.

 

If GTF was fitter, he’d probably be our first choice striker. He’s probably  our most skilful striker, and also has a fair bit of strength too. He’s got 3 goals and 3 assists from his cameo appearances mainly from the bench. Considering Knocky has only got 5 goals and 5 assists from playing the whole season, that’s not a bad return.

 

I think too many fans are star-struck by the likes of exciting young French players like Knockaert, and don’t stop to think what he’s actually contributing to the team other than endangering the corner flags every time he shoots.

 

By the same token, you look at GTF and wonder how this bacon n eggs lorry driver ever managed to play Premiership football. But he has. And he’s scored against Man United, Liverpool and Arsenal.

 

If you put aside your pre-conceptions about the bloke, you’ll notice that GTF is actually a very decent footballer. He’s already proven he can play in the Prem, so the only issue really is his fitness…

[Manwell Pablo]

Plenty more where that came from sunshine.

 

If GTF was fitter, he’d probably be our first choice striker. He’s probably  our most skilful striker, and also has a fair bit of strength too. He’s got 3 goals and 3 assists from his cameo appearances mainly from the bench. Considering Knocky has only got 5 goals and 5 assists from playing the whole season, that’s not a bad return.

 

I think too many fans are star-struck by the likes of exciting young French players like Knockaert, and don’t stop to think what he’s actually contributing to the team other than endangering the corner flags every time he shoots.

 

By the same token, you look at GTF and wonder how this bacon n eggs lorry driver ever managed to play Premiership football. But he has. And he’s scored against Man United, Liverpool and Arsenal.

 

If you put aside your pre-conceptions about the bloke, you’ll notice that GTF is actually a very decent footballer. He’s already proven he can play in the Prem, so the only issue really is his fitness…

 

He's got good ball control now what Id call "skill". His Premeir League experience, despite you trying to dress his 5 goals in 22 appearances during a 15 year career up as something to be proud of, is next to nothing, he's 33, he's fat, he has no pace even when he is in shape, he's a readable hold up man that's not particular good in the air, all in all, He's a lower league striker, that's why he's spent most of his career playing second tier or lower. We've been promoted with him, but we'd most certainly of been promoted without him as well. Good on him for getting enough appearances to extend his contract but he should be playing a very minimal part. 

[MattGamble92]

How most Lloyd feel when he sees this?

****ing joke

[lgfualol]

How most Lloyd feel when he sees this?

****ing joke

Probably a bit annoyed at his agent for not doing something similar to GTF's contract.

[Fox Ulike]

He's got good ball control now what Id call "skill". His Premeir League experience, despite you trying to dress his 5 goals in 22 appearances during a 15 year career up as something to be proud of, is next to nothing, he's 33, he's fat, he has no pace even when he is in shape, he's a readable hold up man that's not particular good in the air, all in all, He's a lower league striker, that's why he's spent most of his career playing second tier or lower. We've been promoted with him, but we'd most certainly of been promoted without him as well. Good on him for getting enough appearances to extend his contract but he should be playing a very minimal part. 

 

Why does "good ball control" not count as skill?  

                               

And he’s a “lower league striker†... who’s already played a season in the Premiership… How does that work? Does that make Rickie Lambert and Grant Holt lower league strikers too?

 

He is 33. You got that right.

 

And yes I don’t expect him to play a massive part next season (cos of his fitness).. .But why do I keep needing to explain to people that we’ll need more than 11 players next season?

[Manwell Pablo]

Why does "good ball control" not count as skill?  

                               

And he’s a “lower league striker†... who’s already played a season in the Premiership… How does that work? Does that make Rickie Lambert and Grant Holt lower league strikers too?

 

He is 33. You got that right.

 

And yes I don’t expect him to play a massive part next season (cos of his fitness).. .But why do I keep needing to explain to people that we’ll need more than 11 players next season?

 

Because having good control of the ball and having the skill to get round a man are two different things. He posses the latter, that's why he spends  the majority of his time with his back to goal.

 

How does that work? Because he's played 14/15 seasons of his career outside the Premier League, not difficult is it really.

 

I'd class Holt as a lower league striker yes but I digress, the difference between GTF and them is they've actually scored goals at a rate of better than one 4-5 games in the Premeir League. And when he managed his massive 5 goal haul, he was younger and not overweight. 

 

I've got it all right, thanks. And I can't remember saying we don't need a squad so please don't imply I did. A minute ago GTF was half a stone away from being the best striker at the club which is a ludicrous statement and why I have responded. 

[LAprice_]

Typical FT... 'hate'... who the fook 'hates' GTF? Some of us merely don't think he's very good.

I think Vardy is very good.. so I'll say so.

I don't think GTF is very good, so I'll say so.

There's no 'hate' here, merely a view.

In the past I was criticised for my 'hate' of Sven and Beckford... Meh.. I just didn't think either were very good.

"No way can we afford to give the Builder another contract."

"he would proberly make you a cracking Patio!"

"Some part of him will be in the right place,the pitch is only so wide"

"GTF is a awful player doesn't deserve a contract I hate him so so much fat lazy player who needs to retire"

http://www.foxestalk.co.uk/forums/topic/94965-gary-taylor-fletchers-contract/

 

He's one of our own players and yet people still make cheap jokes. I admit 'hate' is a vague term but surely it can go some way to describing the attitude that many fans take.

[Fox Ulike]

Because having good control of the ball and having the skill to get round a man are two different things. He posses the latter, that's why he spends  the majority of his time with his back to goal.

 

How does that work? Because he's played 14/15 seasons of his career outside the Premier League, not difficult is it really.

 

I'd class Holt as a lower league striker yes but I digress, the difference between GTF and them is they've actually scored goals at a rate of better than one 4-5 games in the Premeir League. And when he managed his massive 5 goal haul, he was younger and not overweight. 

 

I've got it all right, thanks. And I can't remember saying we don't need a squad so please don't imply I did. A minute ago GTF was half a stone away from being the best striker at the club which is a ludicrous statement and why I have responded. 

 

No a minute a go he was "our most skilful striker", and he still is now. Although according to your definition of skill Andreas Iniesta is also a bit of a donkey. 

 

If he was French and had long hair like David Ginola you'd be loving him.

[Corky]

How most Lloyd feel when he sees this?

****ing joke

 

Lloyd has been offered the same length of deal. GTF took it, Lloyd hasn't yet.

[foxoffderby]

To those who are saying why has he got a new contract and so and so hasn't, did he not have a clause when he signed that he would get a new contract if he appeared x number of times? 

I don't think the club had a choice

[Manwell Pablo]

Lloyd has been offered the same length of deal. GTF took it, Lloyd hasn't yet.

 

Yes, I think one is slightly more deserving of a slightly better deal considering their contributions this season don't you?

[Manwell Pablo]

No a minute a go he was "our most skilful striker", and he still is now. Although according to your definition of skill Andreas Iniesta is also a bit of a donkey. 

 

If he was French and had long hair like David Ginola you'd be loving him.

 

No you clearly said "if he was fit he'd be our first choice striker"

 

No, as Andreas iniesta has good ball control and skill, and he's not fat and slow as shit either. 

 

If he was French and had long hair to go with his already slightly questionable apperance I doubt even his own mother would love him.

[Guest MattP]

Have people just completely decided to ignore the very substantiated rumour that the club had to offer GTF a contract given that it was an open extension both ways if he played in twenty games or more this season?

 

Those of you saying you wouldn't have offered him one, well you would, because you had no choice.

If he was French and had long hair to go with his already slightly questionable apperance I doubt even his own mother would love him.