Zingari Posted 29 February 2012 Posted 29 February 2012 Theories about secret societies ruling the world are a thing of the past. It's pretty obvious that money rules the world these days. Surely it's the people who own/control the money that rules the world , not the money itself , and these people do belong to elite groups who don't advertise the fact .
Finnegan Posted 29 February 2012 Posted 29 February 2012 Surely it's the people who own/control the money that rules the world , not the money itself , and these people do belong to elite groups who don't advertise the fact . Well obviously. But the point is we can see it in practice every day, it isn't a quirky conspiracy theory anymore and these people don't need to belong to some Scooby Do secret cult with occult rituals and silly hats. They just sit in boardrooms and shepard governments with campaign contributions and the like.
Webbo Posted 29 February 2012 Posted 29 February 2012 Not all rich people/corporation want the same thing. What's good for one firm is bad for another. It's not conspiracy it's economic Darwinism.
Zingari Posted 29 February 2012 Posted 29 February 2012 The military/industrial/financial elite are pulling the strings in national and soon to be global government. You can give them whatever secret society name you wish , but they do exist Eisenhower recognised and warned us of this in his final address and nothing since has made me feel that the shadowy rulers aren’t tightening their steel fist in a velvet glove grip .
Trav Le Bleu Posted 29 February 2012 Posted 29 February 2012 No I don’t , the official 911 “conspiracy story” is a crock of shite The 911 conspiracy as I understand it is that Porsche have been essentially fobbing off the public with the same car for 40 years!
Zingari Posted 29 February 2012 Posted 29 February 2012 The 911 conspiracy as I understand it is that Porsche have been essentially fobbing off the public with the same car for 40 years! It's just a sooped up beetle
breadandcheese Posted 29 February 2012 Posted 29 February 2012 http://wikispooks.co...1:Israel_did_it Is there nothing this country hasn't done? I heard Israel invented Chinese people, so that when China takes over the world, it will control them and bring total power. Thankfully, the internet is around, so keyboard warriors will be able to defend the world from the Chinese-Jewish threat.
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 29 February 2012 Posted 29 February 2012 Kurt Cobain didnt commit suicide........................... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Kurt_Cobain Not sure what I believe really, but have found it interesting.
Babylon Posted 29 February 2012 Posted 29 February 2012 Moving along... nothing to see here... must not get involved.
Babylon Posted 29 February 2012 Posted 29 February 2012 This is an interesting watch about the 9/11 conspiracy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nD7dbkkBIA "Reveals some startling information?" No he doesn't have any information, he has an opinion. He doesn't even say what Rockefeller he spoke to, just "one of the Rockefellers". I'm glad we all now know the opinion of the producer of Trading Places. I wonder what Eddie Murphy thinks FFS.
Zingari Posted 29 February 2012 Posted 29 February 2012 "Reveals some startling information?" No he doesn't have any information, he has an opinion. He doesn't even say what Rockefeller he spoke to, just "one of the Rockefellers". I'm glad we all now know the opinion of the producer of Trading Places. I wonder what Eddie Murphy thinks FFS. he quite clearly states he spoke to Nick Rockefeller
Zingari Posted 29 February 2012 Posted 29 February 2012 Regardless of whether you believe Russo or not here's some rather revealing quotes by David Rockefeller David Rockefeller Sept. 23, 1994 "This present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful and interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for too long — We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order." We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected the promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world-government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the National autodetermination practiced in past centuries.-- David Rockefeller in an address to a Trilateral Commission meeting in June of 1991 Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale and community of purpose. The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history.– David Rockefeller and how about this little gem “Some even believe we (the Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.” - David Rockefeller, Memoirs, page 405
Babylon Posted 29 February 2012 Posted 29 February 2012 he quite clearly states he spoke to Nick Rockefeller He must have mentioned it later on, I turned off after the first three minutes of tripe from the producer of Trading Places.
Babylon Posted 29 February 2012 Posted 29 February 2012 “Some even believe we (the Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.” - David Rockefeller, Memoirs, page 405 Sorry, but what's that supposed to prove? That politicians and businessman try to forge links with others politiclally and economically. I mean, that's only been going on since man could sail the seas.
Gold Coast Fox Posted 29 February 2012 Posted 29 February 2012 Utter bollox, best way to describe it.
Zingari Posted 1 March 2012 Posted 1 March 2012 Sorry, but what's that supposed to prove? That politicians and businessman try to forge links with others politiclally and economically. I mean, that's only been going on since man could sail the seas. So basically , when loony conspiracy theorists have and are still telling you that there are powerful secret cabals who are intent on global domination and a “new world order” they are talking bollox , even when some of those accused are brazen enough to admit they are ? Regardless of whether you believe they could actually achieve their goals or not there are some of these ( not now so secret puppeteers ) who now feel confident enough to actually tell you what they have been doing and that they have the media in their pockets . This is just incredible “head in the sand” stuff. Hey-ho I’m getting too past it to care any more .
ozleicester Posted 1 March 2012 Posted 1 March 2012 How about we raise the issue of Julian Assange. September 2010 - Releases 'sensitive" documents on his website, which exposes so many of the worlds governments shady deals December 2010 - is arrested and charged with Sexual Assault. December 2010 - Visa, Paypal and others refuse to process payments to Wikileaks He is now on bail and living in the UK having to report to the police each day. Right now folks we are watching a conspiracy in action... enjoy the ride. http://freeassange.org/
Babylon Posted 1 March 2012 Posted 1 March 2012 So basically , when loony conspiracy theorists have and are still telling you that there are powerful secret cabals who are intent on global domination and a “new world order” they are talking bollox , even when some of those accused are brazen enough to admit they are ? Regardless of whether you believe they could actually achieve their goals or not there are some of these ( not now so secret puppeteers ) who now feel confident enough to actually tell you what they have been doing and that they have the media in their pockets . This is just incredible “head in the sand” stuff. Hey-ho I’m getting too past it to care any more . But he doesn't admit to being part of some great plot to dominate or take over the world, once again it's you and your fellow crack pots taking what you want from it. All he admits to is being more focussed globably, than just being bothered about the USA's interests. And that forging links politically and economically is a good thing, which I hasten to add is something that's pretty common place around the world, whether you're a leader of a country or a student in a class room. Unless you are Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or Kim Jong-Un that is. What actually is “head in the sand stuff" is that you continually manage to read three lines and only manage to see the view point that suits you. The meaning of those words could be explain in a thousand different ways. But no, all you see is some smoking gun admission of guilt. Unfortunaltey, when you have a mind set such as yours you are going to see "evidence" and "smoking guns" everywhere, because it's your mind that's creating them.
Zingari Posted 1 March 2012 Posted 1 March 2012 But he doesn't admit to being part of some great plot to dominate or take over the world, once again it's you and your fellow crack pots taking what you want from it. All he admits to is being more focussed globably, than just being bothered about the USA's interests. And that forging links politically and economically is a good thing, which I hasten to add is something that's pretty common place around the world, whether you're a leader of a country or a student in a class room. Unless you are Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or Kim Jong-Un that is. What actually is “head in the sand stuff" is that you continually manage to read three lines and only manage to see the view point that suits you. The meaning of those words could be explain in a thousand different ways. But no, all you see is some smoking gun admission of guilt. Unfortunaltey, when you have a mind set such as yours you are going to see "evidence" and "smoking guns" everywhere, because it's your mind that's creating them. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the National autodetermination practiced in past centuries.-- David Rockefeller in an address to a Trilateral Commission meeting in June of 1991 Does he have to write this on six inch nails and hammer it into peoples skulls to get them to understand what he's actually saying ?
Captain... Posted 1 March 2012 Posted 1 March 2012 But he doesn't admit to being part of some great plot to dominate or take over the world, once again it's you and your fellow crack pots taking what you want from it. All he admits to is being more focussed globably, than just being bothered about the USA's interests. And that forging links politically and economically is a good thing, which I hasten to add is something that's pretty common place around the world, whether you're a leader of a country or a student in a class room. Unless you are Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or Kim Jong-Un that is. What actually is “head in the sand stuff" is that you continually manage to read three lines and only manage to see the view point that suits you. The meaning of those words could be explain in a thousand different ways. But no, all you see is some smoking gun admission of guilt. Unfortunaltey, when you have a mind set such as yours you are going to see "evidence" and "smoking guns" everywhere, because it's your mind that's creating them. I am not saying I agree with Zingari, and some of the evidence of the conspiracy is laughable, but some of it does make you think, but to dismiss all conspiracy theories as nonsense is dangerous, I found this very interesting websites which detail how the mafia were once a conspiracy theory, as was asbestos causing respiratory problems, the most interesting one though in relation to 9/11 is this one: 9.Operation Northwoods: In the early 1960s, American military leaders drafted plans to create public support for a war against Cuba, to oust Fidel Castro from power. The plans included committing acts of terrorism in U.S. cities, killing innocent people and U.S. soldiers, blowing up a U.S. ship, assassinating Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees, and hijacking planes. The plans were all approved by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but were reportedly rejected by the civilian leadership. They were kept secret for nearly 40 years. http://newworldorder...d-Extended.aspx The above quoted is accepted as fact, they seriously considered committing terrorist attacks on US targets to acheive their own means, it is shocking that it would be considered, but once you accept it has been considered it is not great leap to believe they could actually do it. I guess my point is don't be too quick to be sceptical, there is plenty of things going on that are kept from us and whilst a new world order may be a bit far fetched the idea of powerful men working together in secret ways to further their own interests is one that I can all too readily believe.
Zingari Posted 1 March 2012 Posted 1 March 2012 I am not saying I agree with Zingari, and some of the evidence of the conspiracy is laughable, but some of it does make you think, but to dismiss all conspiracy theories as nonsense is dangerous, I found this very interesting websites which detail how the mafia were once a conspiracy theory, as was asbestos causing respiratory problems, the most interesting one though in relation to 9/11 is this one: [/font] http://newworldorder...d-Extended.aspx The above quoted is accepted as fact, they seriously considered committing terrorist attacks on US targets to acheive their own means, it is shocking that it would be considered, but once you accept it has been considered it is not great leap to believe they could actually do it.[/size] I guess my point is don't be too quick to be sceptical, there is plenty of things going on that are kept from us and whilst a new world order may be a bit far fetched the idea of powerful men working together in secret ways to further their own interests is one that I can all too readily believe. I and a few others have mentioned northwoods many times on here ( edit; in other threads) so I think you are probably banging your head against a brick wall with it CS Suffice to say that huge gov conspiracies only ever happen in history and/or other places , never here and now, and imperialist Pax Americana is just a myth. or is it ?
Babylon Posted 1 March 2012 Posted 1 March 2012 I am not saying I agree with Zingari, and some of the evidence of the conspiracy is laughable, but some of it does make you think, but to dismiss all conspiracy theories as nonsense is dangerous, I found this very interesting websites which detail how the mafia were once a conspiracy theory, as was asbestos causing respiratory problems, the most interesting one though in relation to 9/11 is this one: [/font] http://newworldorder...d-Extended.aspx The above quoted is accepted as fact, they seriously considered committing terrorist attacks on US targets to acheive their own means, it is shocking that it would be considered, but once you accept it has been considered it is not great leap to believe they could actually do it.[/size] I guess my point is don't be too quick to be sceptical, there is plenty of things going on that are kept from us and whilst a new world order may be a bit far fetched the idea of powerful men working together in secret ways to further their own interests is one that I can all too readily believe. I don't dismiss them, I look at the evidence and decide. Provide CONCRETE evidence and we'll talk.
Zingari Posted 1 March 2012 Posted 1 March 2012 I don't dismiss them, I look at the evidence and decide. Provide CONCRETE evidence and we'll talk. The northwoods documents are concrete evidence of a conspiracy, just as the gulf of Tonkin incident is a proven conspiracy What more do you want ? A group of high ranking military officials produced a document that recommended blowing up civilian planes to blame it on an enemy . This must have been sufficiently endorsed and agreed upon by the joint chiefs and it made its way onto the desk of the president. Fortunately in this instance JFK threw it back,( probably adding another reason for him to be put out of the way) but this does not make it any less of a conspiracy. The mere fact of plotting to do these things is in itself still a treasonous conspiracy.
acooling08 Posted 1 March 2012 Posted 1 March 2012 The moon landings definately happened. 9/11 was definately caused by terrorists. Was there a US government cover up over the finding of aliens in 1950s, Area 51 etc etc?
James18 Posted 14 April 2012 Posted 14 April 2012 I find all conspiracy theories very interesting, on another forum I found 2 links that go on to talk about Hollywood and the illuminati. Not a massive believer in this stuff, but it's always a good read. Figured I'd put it here for you lot to read and discuss. 1st - Guy used to be in the 'illuminati' apparently. Pure made up shit to me! Here's the original thread http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1306326/pg1 and here is a summery http://mysteryoftheinquity.wordpress.com/2011/01/05/illuminati-truths/ 2nd - Guy posts stuff about findings from Hollywood, more believable, but once again probably 80% shit. It's posted on a forum so it goes off track at times and it's very long, but there's a lot of information. http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=143805431 Have fun!
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