Buce Posted 29 May 2014 Posted 29 May 2014 He said 'in his area' which happened to have a large proportion of blacks living there. In an area densley populated by whites it would be reversed.I seem to recall it was to justify racial profiling in his force's 'stop and search' policy (perhaps you could confirm/refute this, since you appear to remember it?)My second question is this: had he made the same statement, but about white youths, would he have lost his job? Would anyone even have remarked on it?
Harry - LCFC Posted 30 May 2014 Posted 30 May 2014 no. it would be if he'd said that a large percentage of street robberies are committed by young blacks and stated that the reason they do is because they are young and black. All he's done is read out a statistic. Yep, this is the difference a lot of people seem to miss - it's subtle but absolutely crucial.
The Year Of The Fox Posted 30 May 2014 Posted 30 May 2014 I still want to know where the Association of White Police Officers is.
Nick Posted 30 May 2014 Posted 30 May 2014 I still want to know where the Association of White Police Officers is. I can help with this, it's every copper in England and Wales who's white - that's over 90% The Met - the largest force, policing arguably some of the most diverse areas of the country have the greatest amount of officers from an ethnic minority at around 10% You don't really need an association to help ensure a level playing field for a majority.
lcfc1994 Posted 30 May 2014 Posted 30 May 2014 Thing is, the word racism covers too much ground. There is the type of person who actively says they don't like anyone who isn't of the same ethnicity as themselves and claims they 'want every foreigner to go back to their own country'. Then there is the type of person who might say, 'I only ever hear bad things about these Muslims and I can't stand those stupid burkhas'. Both of those statements, said by two different people would certainly be defined in the public eye as, 'not pc' and I think most would also say, racist. I think the majority have little nigs about what they think a certain race or culture does wrong and yet if they voiced their thoughts in public they would fall into the category of being a 'racist'.
MooseBreath Posted 30 May 2014 Posted 30 May 2014 Thing is, the word racism covers too much ground. There is the type of person who actively says they don't like anyone who isn't of the same ethnicity as themselves and claims they 'want every foreigner to go back to their own country'. Then there is the type of person who might say, 'I only ever hear bad things about these Muslims and I can't stand those stupid burkhas'. Both of those statements, said by two different people would certainly be defined in the public eye as, 'not pc' and I think most would also say, racist. I think the majority have little nigs about what they think a certain race or culture does wrong and yet if they voiced their thoughts in public they would fall into the category of being a 'racist'.
Dr The Singh Posted 30 May 2014 Posted 30 May 2014 Thing is, the word racism covers too much ground. There is the type of person who actively says they don't like anyone who isn't of the same ethnicity as themselves and claims they 'want every foreigner to go back to their own country'. Then there is the type of person who might say, 'I only ever hear bad things about these Muslims and I can't stand those stupid burkhas'. Both of those statements, said by two different people would certainly be defined in the public eye as, 'not pc' and I think most would also say, racist. I think the majority have little nigs about what they think a certain race or culture does wrong and yet if they voiced their thoughts in public they would fall into the category of being a 'racist'. I can't stand burkhas but does that make me racist????? How???
lavrentis Posted 30 May 2014 Posted 30 May 2014 I can't stand burkhas but does that make me racist????? How??? It doesn't make you racist, from a fashion and design point of view they look horrible. A black bin bag. It just so happens a certain culture wears them. Some Muslims might think socks and sandals look horrible, which I agree with.
lcfc1994 Posted 30 May 2014 Posted 30 May 2014 I can't stand burkhas but does that make me racist????? How??? It doesn't. But in todays world most people would think you were.
Stadt Posted 30 May 2014 Posted 30 May 2014 I'm not keen on the bushy, not fully grown, pube type beards that some younger Muslims sport. If you're going to have a beard, at least grow a proper one.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 30 May 2014 Posted 30 May 2014 Same proportion of people who voted in an election UKIP won. UKIP and PROUD! Up yours, knob.
AlphaMaleFox Posted 30 May 2014 Posted 30 May 2014 UKIP and PROUD! Up yours, knob. UKIP and DANGEROUS TIGER, a match made in heaven...
Dr The Singh Posted 30 May 2014 Posted 30 May 2014 I'm not keen on the bushy, not fully grown, pube type beards that some younger Muslims sport. If you're going to have a beard, at least grow a proper one.Sikhs have the best beards, dangerous tiger would love one
Buce Posted 30 May 2014 Posted 30 May 2014 UKIP and PROUD! Up yours, knob. And right on cue, it crawls out from under its stone..
Rincewind Posted 1 June 2014 Posted 1 June 2014 It doesn't. But in todays world most people would think you were. It makes you Burkhist. It is just an item of clothing. Head scarves were once a common item worn by women here up to around the 70's or 80's. The full face covering Burkah is only worn by the minority. Most are just head covering. They cannot do any harm so why object? It is your choice whether to wear one so I could not care less what others choose to wear. In Japan some people wear face masks because of pollution.
The Doctor Posted 1 June 2014 Posted 1 June 2014 It makes you Burkhist. It is just an item of clothing. Head scarves were once a common item worn by women here up to around the 70's or 80's. The full face covering Burkah is only worn by the minority. Most are just head covering. They cannot do any harm so why object? It is your choice whether to wear one so I could not care less what others choose to wear. In Japan some people wear face masks because of pollution. It's an item of clothing that, when fullfaced, is a security threat (how do you know who's behind it) and is not comparable to a face mask in Japan (which you noted was for health reasons, not an outfit for a belief)
The Year Of The Fox Posted 1 June 2014 Posted 1 June 2014 It doesn't make you racist, from a fashion and design point of view they look horrible. A black bin bag. It just so happens a certain culture wears them. Some Muslims might think socks and sandals look horrible, which I agree with. Only Germans wear them at the same time anyway
Merging Cultures Posted 1 June 2014 Posted 1 June 2014 Nations are shaped by history and so are the people in them. We had an empire in Britain, we colonised other countries and we have that whole 'white man's guilt' thing. Smaller countries in Africa, Asia or Eastern Europe for example have spent much of their history subjugated by larger nations and so it's kind of natural for a Pole to distrust a Russian or a Bulgarian to slag off the Turks. In 'British' Africa they are grateful they were not neglected by the French.
lcfc1994 Posted 1 June 2014 Posted 1 June 2014 It makes you Burkhist. It is just an item of clothing. Head scarves were once a common item worn by women here up to around the 70's or 80's. The full face covering Burkah is only worn by the minority. Most are just head covering. They cannot do any harm so why object? It is your choice whether to wear one so I could not care less what others choose to wear. In Japan some people wear face masks because of pollution. I take your point but I was getting at the fact that I think the UK population as a whole would label somebody as a racist if they said they hate people who wear burkhas, its maybe not the best example but anything said negatively about another race/culture/ethnic group is taken automatically as racism.
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