One third of Britons 'admit being racially prejudiced'

[l444ry]

Did it? Or did the media deliberately leave this one until after he was elected?

 

Those comments were made 18 months ago according to that, considering the money plouged by the Big Three into going through every councillor and UKIP member's Twitter and Facebook accounts with a find toothcomb I find it hard to believe they hadn't spotted that before the election.

 

Social Media will make it impossible for anyone to stand for election in 20 years, everyone will have skeletons that can be brought up from things they said when young and stupid.

 

Have youy sorted the racism out in your own party yet before you criticise others?

 

http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/five-middlesbrough-councillors-resign-labour-7080454

That old chestnut again! Only the BNP and UKIP will try to milk this one. Mr Pervaz Khan and his business/council interests left the Labour Party with no alternative but to deselect him when the opportunity arose. None of the other 4 councillors have claimed racism as far as I know, citing completely different reasons for resigning. It seems that Mr. Khan's taxi business and the local council have not been on the best of terms lately and it appears that his declarations of business interests have not been that trustworthy in the past. 

[Head Honcho]

I like how most on here are assuming that the people who admitted having a racial prejudice are white!

[Buce]

No, it was a dig at Buce.

Maybe you missed my reply first time, Matt.

Perhaps I'm being a bit thick, but can you explain how what you posted was 'having a dig' at me?

[lavrentis]

I have Bucey as a massive racist.

[lgfualol]

The only times I've felt unsafe in town is from white people. 

 

Wear someone more than £4 from Tesco and they stare you down, and sometimes ask for money. 

[Buce]

I have Bucey as a massive racist.

I'm flattered by your stalking, but I'm happily married.

[Guest MattP]

Maybe you missed my reply first time, Matt.

Perhaps I'm being a bit thick, but can you explain how what you posted was 'having a dig' at me?

 

Apologies, I did.

 

It was in reference to how you have wanted to smear UKIP and it's voters as xenophobic and racist over the last few weeks, when in reality all they propose is an immigration policy where the country has control of it's own borders.

 

It was early and a pretty crap dig to be honest.

[The Doctor]

The only times I've felt unsafe in town is from white people. 

 

Wear someone more than £4 from Tesco and they stare you down, and sometimes ask for money. 

 

Those are called homeless people - what you need to do is piss on them to assert your superiority 

[Buce]

Apologies, I did.

It was in reference to how you have wanted to smear UKIP and it's voters as xenophobic and racist over the last few weeks, when in reality all they propose is an immigration policy where the country has control of it's own borders.

It was early and a pretty crap dig to be honest.

Fair enough.

For the record, I don't oppose an immigration policy at all, and have never said differently.

[Alf Bentley]

For a language so rich in vocabulary, English is quite limited when dealing with race related issues. What we need is a hierarchy of terms that reflect the vast scale of what we now call racism. At the top you'd have active discrimination on pure racial grounds, at the bottom something like what we now call xenophobia, a very natural low level fear of the unknown. It's not only a bit stupid to call everything racism, it also devalues a lot of the superb progress that has been hard-earned over decades.

 

Completely agree with your point there (though "xenophobia" itself is quite a strong fear, as I understand it).

 

We could also do with a richer vocabulary for describing class: "middle-class" must be one of the least specific terms in the English language - and "working-class" isn't much better. Don't the Eskimos/Inuits have 50 words for different types of snow or something? We need a similar array for race and class, particularly in view of our fascination with them.

[Finnegan]

The only times I've felt unsafe in town is from white people. 

 

Wear someone more than £4 from Tesco and they stare you down, and sometimes ask for money. 

 

I think that's cultural more than racial, though. Having lived in North London, there it was generally black youths being aggressive and confrontational. Here it's typically whites.

 

It's not about any race being more unpleasant it's just about what the ethnic build up of the area is and which skin-tone happens to be providing the local chavs. They come in all shapes, sizes and cultural upbringings at the end of the day.

 

Though it seems to be a largely Western phenomena. I've wandered round China, Hong Kong and Japan and never felt in any way under threat. Maybe that was naivety on my part but the people out there are just far less in-your-face.

[sphericalfox]

I think that's cultural more than racial, though. Having lived in North London, there it was generally black youths being aggressive and confrontational. Here it's typically whites.

 

It's not about any race being more unpleasant it's just about what the ethnic build up of the area is and which skin-tone happens to be providing the local chavs. They come in all shapes, sizes and cultural upbringings at the end of the day.

 

Though it seems to be a largely Western phenomena. I've wandered round China, Hong Kong and Japan and never felt in any way under threat. Maybe that was naivety on my part but the people out there are just far less in-your-face.

 

Heightest! 

[steveherbe]

I like your honesty Bruce, but I don't see that as racist inparticular, it's racial preference, I would want my daughter to marry a British Sikh, but I have nothing against black or white people....the defining line is if your daughter married a black person what would you do??????

I'd have him neutered, all black lads are hung like donkeys..... aren't they?

[Buce]

all black lads are hung like donkeys..... aren't they?

You tell us, Steve - are they?

[Parafox]

I used to date a welsh woman once also..........never do that again

 

Did she have a wooly coat and her name was Baaabara?

[Haydos]

If people were walking down an alley at night, would they be more scared of a white or black person coming the other way?

 

If they answer this honestly and say the black person does that mean they are 'racist' per se or does it just mean they have conformed to what society has given us as a negative stereotype over a long period of time?

 

I was thinking about this recently after seeing this thread. The more I think of it the more I realise I mainly feel more intimidated by clothing and behaviour rather than race. I'm sure it's pretty much the same anywhere but I see more ethnic minorities dressed in chavy clothing and hiding their faces than I do white 'youths' but I feel just as uncomfortable when I come across a group of white lads with hoods up at night.

 

Just tends to be more minorities (Asian and Black) that wear that kind of clothing and hang around at night.

[Jon the Hat]

How did your wife respond? "But Jon, 99% of the population know that they're more intelligent than you - and I'm one of them"? 

 

Oh no, she agreed of course.  She is a clever lady.

[Jon the Hat]

I was thinking about this recently after seeing this thread. The more I think of it the more I realise I mainly feel more intimidated by clothing and behaviour rather than race. I'm sure it's pretty much the same anywhere but I see more ethnic minorities dressed in chavy clothing and hiding their faces than I do white 'youths' but I feel just as uncomfortable when I come across a group of white lads with hoods up at night.

 

Just tends to be more minorities (Asian and Black) that wear that kind of clothing and hang around at night.

 

More about behaviour for me.  You could be dressed all SWAG and laughing and joking and I wouldnt bat an eyelid, or indeed wearing an Armani suit and being aggressive.

[Haydos]

More about behaviour for me.  You could be dressed all SWAG and laughing and joking and I wouldnt bat an eyelid, or indeed wearing an Armani suit and being aggressive.

 

Realistically that just doesn't happen that often though. Whatever their ethnicity, lads wearing hoodies with their hoods up usually wander around with their head down as well or they're walking along like a bellend. If I see a black or a white guy wearing a suit they're usually just walking like a normal person, not skulking. Fair enough they could still attack me or try and mug me or whatever but how often do you hear stories of well dressed guys of any race mugging someone.

 

At the end of the day it's about appearance and culture over race for me. I'm not saying I don't have certain racial prejudices in other situations but this whole thing about meeting a black guy in an alleyway? Nah, I don't care if he's black or white, I'm probably not going down there either way.

[Rincewind]

Matt, If I was walking down an alley I would be wary of anyone that I could not see if they were wearing dark clothes. Would make them even more difficult to see if they had dark skin. Not saying they are more likely to mug but you have less time to prepare if they are wearing all black/ Same could be said for driving and cyclists. If they have no lights and dark clothes the chances of hitting them goes up drink or no drink.

[Buce]

A few years back, a senior police officer was hounded out of his job for stating that a large percentage (I forget the actual figure) of street robberies in his area were committed by young blacks (a verfiable fact; victims of robbery are clearly able to describe the robber(s)).

My question is: does that make him a racist, as was claimed?

[The Year Of The Fox]

A few years back, a senior police officer was hounded out of his job for stating that a large percentage (I forget the actual figure) of street robberies in his area were committed by young blacks (a verfiable fact; victims of robbery are clearly able to describe the robber(s)).

My question is: does that make him a racist, as was claimed?

No, it was stating a fact.

[The God Emperor]

A few years back, a senior police officer was hounded out of his job for stating that a large percentage (I forget the actual figure) of street robberies in his area were committed by young blacks (a verfiable fact; victims of robbery are clearly able to describe the robber(s)).

My question is: does that make him a racist, as was claimed?

no. it would be if he'd said that a large percentage of street robberies are committed by young blacks and stated that the reason they do is because they are young and black. All he's done is read out a statistic. 

[Guest MattP]

A few years back, a senior police officer was hounded out of his job for stating that a large percentage (I forget the actual figure) of street robberies in his area were committed by young blacks (a verfiable fact; victims of robbery are clearly able to describe the robber(s)).

My question is: does that make him a racist, as was claimed?

In a sensible society serious about solving problems not a chance.

In one obsessed with taking offence and one prepared to put a minority of people's feelings ahead of public safety and the greater good yes.

So in Britain, yes it does. Although maybe for the first time in a while we are seeing times and attitudes change a bit, people are just starting to express opinions again.

[Rincewind]

He said 'in his area' which happened to have a large proportion of blacks living there. In an area densley populated by whites it would be reversed.