One third of Britons 'admit being racially prejudiced'

[Guest MattP]

You think anyone who believes we should have an immigration policy is racist???

 

No, it was a dig at Buce.

[Houdini Logic]

Ah OK.

 

So for me this is down to semantics. I'd openly call myself racist, sexist and homophobic but I equally have stereotypes against the English, men and hetrosexuals. So what does that make me?

And the word predujice - you may know something is unfounded on the whole but through experience it may alter how you behave. Does that make you predudice?

 

The whole area is nonsense while it is so vague.

[Guest MattP]

Ah OK.

 

So for me this is down to semantics. I'd openly call myself racist, sexist and homophobic but I equally have stereotypes against the English, men and hetrosexuals. So what does that make me?

And the word predujice - you may know something is unfounded on the whole but through experience it may alter how you behave. Does that make you predudice?

 

The whole area is nonsense while it is so vague.

 

Exactly, the word racist has lost pretty much all meaning anyway as it's been so widely and freely thrown about at anything over the last 10-15 years.

 

I would have no idea how to define prejudice either, as you say, I would be prejudice mostly towards people in my own groups as well be it ethnic or social, it has to be a circumstance of your life and experiences and no one should be condemned for that.

[Buce]

No, it was a dig at Buce.

Really? In what way?

[Dr The Singh]

I just want to say, I would shag any race, does that make me not racist???

[Houdini Logic]

I just want to say, I would shag any race, does that make me not racist???

 

No, just desperate

[LCFC Rennie]

Back when the last series of Blackadder (the one set in WW1) went out on TV, I had a German girlfriend and she loved that programme almost as much as Fawlty Towers (especially the one with the Germans - "don't mention the war!" and all that). I've got a good mate now who's German and he's a good laugh. Then again, back in 1987 I worked in a winery in Alsace (French border with Germany) and the bourgeois Germans would come over on a Sunday, swamping the streets with their shiny cars, and they all seemed very humourless!

 

Sounds harsh on your classmate! Couldn't the teacher have just had a quiet word about not going OTT and then used the comment for a discussion about the nature of French people? Could have been more productive...but maybe I'm being naive and it would just have descended into chaos. I've spent a lot of time in France and, for what it's worth, I'd say that the French probably are more stubborn than the English, but there are more boring people over here....about the same proportion of pricks!

 

p.s. Your teacher should also have corrected your classmate's French: "piqûre" = a sting/pr1ck from a pin; "bite" = pr1ck, as in a physical penis; "con", "connard" or similar = pr1ck, as in a person held in contempt! 

She took it very personally, probably because she was French herself. 

[Dr The Singh]

No, just desperate

Ooooooooo aren't we fussy!!!!   I would do you aswell, that's how desperate I am!!

[PAPA LAZAROU]

I used to date a welsh woman once also..........never do that again

 

Your racism against the Welsh has been duly noted.

[Webbo]

I don't think we are any more racist than we used to be, In fact things are a sight better than they were in the 70s. I think it's more that people are fed up with political correctness and being told what to think. More people will admit it as a bolshy" up yours" to the do gooders, the same reason why I think a lot of people voted Ukip last week.

[Jon the Hat]

I judge just about everyone as inferior to me.  If you ask about one subsector of this not me group, you could really get the wrong idea about me.

 

I said to my wife the other day, "darling, we just need to accept that 99% of the population are not as intelligent as we are.  Its just a fact"

[Alf Bentley]

I judge just about everyone as inferior to me.  If you ask about one subsector of this not me group, you could really get the wrong idea about me.

 

I said to my wife the other day, "darling, we just need to accept that 99% of the population are not as intelligent as we are.  Its just a fact"

 

How did your wife respond? "But Jon, 99% of the population know that they're more intelligent than you - and I'm one of them"? 

[MooseBreath]

For a language so rich in vocabulary, English is quite limited when dealing with race related issues. What we need is a hierarchy of terms that reflect the vast scale of what we now call racism. At the top you'd have active discrimination on pure racial grounds, at the bottom something like what we now call xenophobia, a very natural low level fear of the unknown. It's not only a bit stupid to call everything racism, it also devalues a lot of the superb progress that has been hard-earned over decades.

[The Doctor]

[l444ry]

Wonder if this half-wit can be called a racist, considering he was elected for a non-racist political party. Only took 5 days for another one to surface!

 

 http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/05/27/dave-small-newly-elected-ukip-councillor-suspended-after-five-days_n_5399920.html

[Guest MattP]

Wonder if this half-wit can be called a racist, considering he was elected for a non-racist political party. Only took 5 days for another one to surface!

 

 http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/05/27/dave-small-newly-elected-ukip-councillor-suspended-after-five-days_n_5399920.html

 

 

Did it? Or did the media deliberately leave this one until after he was elected?

 

Those comments were made 18 months ago according to that, considering the money plouged by the Big Three into going through every councillor and UKIP member's Twitter and Facebook accounts with a find toothcomb I find it hard to believe they hadn't spotted that before the election.

 

Social Media will make it impossible for anyone to stand for election in 20 years, everyone will have skeletons that can be brought up from things they said when young and stupid.

 

Have youy sorted the racism out in your own party yet before you criticise others?

 

http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/five-middlesbrough-councillors-resign-labour-7080454

 

‘Cllr Pervaz Khan said he felt “ashamed†for belonging to Middlesbrough Labour group which “is treating some of my Asian family and friends in a manner which they perceive to be racist and, incidentally, so do I†

[Trav Le Bleu]

I wouldn't consider myself racist but to claim you have no racial prejudices would be stupid. Almost everybody has some preconception about other ethnic and cultural groups.

 

For me, it would be whether the preconceptions are negative or not. Certainly there are preconceptions (that someone else on here has already said are cultural rather than racial) that I have of certain peoples that I know are not true as a whole, but which I believe are probably fair generalisations. I can honestly say that I've never thought that someone was going to do something bad, simply because they were of a different race.

[Guest MattP]

If people were walking down an alley at night, would they be more scared of a white or black person coming the other way?

 

If they answer this honestly and say the black person does that mean they are 'racist' per se or does it just mean they have conformed to what society has given us as a negative stereotype over a long period of time?

[Dr The Singh]

If people were walking down an alley at night, would they be more scared of a white or black person coming the other way?

 

If they answer this honestly and say the black person does that mean they are 'racist' per se or does it just mean they have conformed to what society has given us as a negative stereotype over a long period of time?

If the black person was wearing a suit and the white person had a hoody and tracksuit, would that matter????

[davieG]

If people were walking down an alley at night, would they be more scared of a white or black person coming the other way?

 

If they answer this honestly and say the black person does that mean they are 'racist' per se or does it just mean they have conformed to what society has given us as a negative stereotype over a long period of time?

It would depend a lot on how they were dressed, their age and build etc. There are so many variables.

 

 

I feel uncomfortable in town these days now that may be due to my age but I suspect both the 'foreign look' of the people has something to do with it I'm also very wary of groups of young people.

 

Yet I've spent a good portion of my career working with and been a manager of people from many different backgrounds and not felt the slightest  unease  and most of the young people ive recruited have been some of the best ive worked with.

 

I think the numbers and the unknown create my discomfort. In fact I'm quite confused at times about my feelings.

[Saxondale]

Anybody who doesn't make some generalisations about things is, quite frankly, an idiot.

Staffies are more likely to bite you than Border Collies. That is not to say that every Staffy will bite you, but, clearly, it is useful to know which breeds are more aggressive than others.

This attitude is, let's say, breedist. But who wants to get bitten?

[johnny the fox]

I just want to say, I would shag any race, does that make me not racist???

That's nowt, I would shag anything out of my species.

[Guest MattP]

If the black person was wearing a suit and the white person had a hoody and tracksuit, would that matter????

 

Of course it doesn't, if the black man is wearing a suit we shouldn't be racist, we should just assume the jury reached a not guilty verdict on hard evidence.

[Guest MattP]

It would depend a lot on how they were dressed, their age and build etc. There are so many variables.

 

 

I feel uncomfortable in town these days now that may be due to my age but I suspect both the 'foreign look' of the people has something to do with it I'm also very wary of groups of young people.

 

Yet I've spent a good portion of my career working with and been a manager of people from many different backgrounds and not felt the slightest  unease  and most of the young people ive recruited have been some of the best ive worked with.

 

I think the numbers and the unknown create my discomfort. In fact I'm quite confused at times about my feelings.

 

Think that's a fair assessment , I feel uncomfortable in town these days and I'm 31, that said, the white British underclass often tend to be the scummiest of the lot from what I see in town, I've seen a few grey skinned Albanians knocking around sports direct but they don't seem to intimidate people in my experience.

[Illusion35]

I think some of it comes down to generalising about race/culture rather than intentional racism. For example the gypsies/travellers (unsure of the 'correct' term) from the local site to me steal openly from the local village shop and walk out laughing while the single handed shop keeper can't stop them. This annoys me and makes me cross - but not with all travellers necessarily, just with the ones from this site that I've seen with my own eyes. But this turns into 'all gypsies are thieves'. Also the only times I've ever seen street crime/robbery committed it has been by a young black man. This gets turned into 'all muggers are black' and results in higher stop and search figures. None of these generalisations are necessarily true but it's how people twist things.