kingcarr21 Posted 4 September 2014 Posted 4 September 2014 Not essentially disagreeing with you but I reckon the last 50 years have proven that driving doesn't require maximum attention very often at all. If it did they'd be accidents on every road every 5 seconds. I don't think ANY driver gives maximum attention to driving even through 1 entire journey. Agreed Ive lost count the amount of times im talking to the Wife whilst driving and before you know it your at your destination and you think how the **** did i get here
Carl the Llama Posted 4 September 2014 Posted 4 September 2014 A lot has to be said for circumstance. Â For instance I have no issue whipping out my phone to give someone a call or drop them a text when I'm stuck in slow moving traffic and it looks like I'll be late for something.
Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo Posted 4 September 2014 Posted 4 September 2014 They are all equally as bad, and the end result can be death.  No they're not! There is far more thought required to looking at and typing on a mobile phone (when you can't possibly be also looking at the road simultaneously) than holding a bloody cigarette. They are not equally as bad.  It's like saying "Scratching your face while driving is just as dangerous as doing a Rubik's cube while driving"  The former requires no thought and does not obstruct the driver's view, the latter requires thought and takes the eyes and thought process away from the road.  I.E. cigarette/scratching face: insignificant/barely distracting  Phone/Rubik's cube: significant/very distracting  NOT EQUAL.
ScouseFox Posted 4 September 2014 Posted 4 September 2014 so why aren't you allowed to be on the phone whilst driving? you're allowed to have a conversation with your passenger and smoke a cigarette at the same time. so you're one hand down and probably thinking more about your chat than you are the road. so why can't I ring someone, use one hand and have a chat? what's the difference?
FoxesAreBlue Posted 4 September 2014 Posted 4 September 2014 You can hold the wheel and a fag at the same time, you can't do that with a phone. Don't know why I'm answering as I don't smoke but there ya go.
Carl the Llama Posted 4 September 2014 Posted 4 September 2014 You can hold the wheel and a fag at the same time, you can't do that with a phone. Don't know why I'm answering as I don't smoke but there ya go. I hate to break it to you but modern phones fit neatly into a single hand. Â If you're stuck moving at 20 tops(kmh, dunno what that converts to), then a quick telephone call is not going to end the planet.
DB11 Posted 4 September 2014 Posted 4 September 2014 If any of the above impairs your driving then you can receive a ticket for driving without due care and attention. They're not specifically against the law per se but can result in a ticket due to being circumstantial
Raj Posted 4 September 2014 Posted 4 September 2014 Agreed Ive lost count the amount of times im talking to the Wife whilst driving and before you know it your at your destination and you think how the **** did i get hereyeah thats why there are probably 20 odd cyclists cussing you cos you've near missed them and didnt even notice!!!
Guest Posted 4 September 2014 Posted 4 September 2014 yeah thats why there are probably 20 odd cyclists cussing you cos you've near missed them and didnt even notice!!! Â If what you say is true then you've further proven the point. You missed them.
Bellend Sebastian Posted 4 September 2014 Posted 4 September 2014 The act of holding a mobile phone/cigarette/juicy tangerine etc etc in your hand as opposed to having it available to operate the car's controls is an issue to an extent, but the real problem with mobile phones is not so much a physical one but the fact that you're having a conversation with someone that isn't there. Â Talking to someone in the car is completely different, as they can generally see the same things as you, and as the 16 ton artic bears down on you will probably pause their chat with you about TOWIE or whatever unlike the person on the phone that doesn't know it's there. Â This is probably why other drivers, at least in my experience, make better passengers than those that just get carted around by other folk all the time. Â I'm pretty sure that the Transport and Road Research Laboratory have done research that suggested the impairment to driving of even a hands free mobile conversation is on a par with being pissed up, but I cannot be arsed to find it, although this story quotes similar findings from elsewhere: Â http://www.businessinsider.com/talking-on-a-hands-free-cellphone-is-as-bad-as-driving-drunk-2013-8 Â I've got bluetooth in the car but I only use it to take short calls in emergencies. Â I don't make calls on it and certainly don't have lengthy conversations on it because I know my concentration on the actual driving goes all over the shop. Â It's not surprising though really is it? Â When you walk along the street behind someone talking on a mobile phone half the time they're wandering all over the place, and that's not because they've got something in their hand, is it? Â It's because the conversation itself is having some sort of cognitive impact, i.e. messing up their spatial awareness. Â Road deaths fell year on year for AGES, but I'm pretty sure that in the last few years it has on occasion crept up again and this is suspected to be the likely cause of it. Â Stay safe, me hearties
Fox92 Posted 4 September 2014 Posted 4 September 2014 No they're not! There is far more thought required to looking at and typing on a mobile phone (when you can't possibly be also looking at the road simultaneously) than holding a bloody cigarette. They are not equally as bad.  It's like saying "Scratching your face while driving is just as dangerous as doing a Rubik's cube while driving"  The former requires no thought and does not obstruct the driver's view, the latter requires thought and takes the eyes and thought process away from the road.  I.E. cigarette/scratching face: insignificant/barely distracting  Phone/Rubik's cube: significant/very distracting  NOT EQUAL.  Ok.
Mike Oxlong Posted 4 September 2014 Posted 4 September 2014 Didn't watch the vid as I'm a bit squeamish but most of my accidents have been caused by women in short skirts and low cut tops. They're a bloody menace and should be banned from the pavements.
Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo Posted 4 September 2014 Posted 4 September 2014 Didn't watch the vid as I'm a bit squeamish but most of my accidents have been caused by women in short skirts and low cut tops. They're a bloody menace and should be banned from the pavements. It's only a reconstruction type thing but quite well done (besides the stationery Mondeo during the actual crash) We've all had the cleavage near-misses. I had one once so bad that I was forced to filter (motorcycle) through a very narrow gap as there's no way I would have stopped in time. Had I been in a car it would have been a different story and I'd caused a small pile-up - I'd have got out the car and had stern words with those amazing tits.
Mike Oxlong Posted 4 September 2014 Posted 4 September 2014 It's only a reconstruction type thing but quite well done (besides the stationery Mondeo during the actual crash) We've all had the cleavage near-misses. I had one once so bad that I was forced to filter (motorcycle) through a very narrow gap as there's no way I would have stopped in time. Had I been in a car it would have been a different story and I'd caused a small pile-up - I'd have got out the car and had stern words with those amazing tits. Well, if they were to cause you to lose your no claims you might have hoped for a compensatory juggle!
Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo Posted 4 September 2014 Posted 4 September 2014 She'd have been at fault. I'd have sentenced her to 7 inches.
FoxesAreBlue Posted 4 September 2014 Posted 4 September 2014 I hate to break it to you but modern phones fit neatly into a single hand. If you're stuck moving at 20 tops(kmh, dunno what that converts to), then a quick telephone call is not going to end the planet. Hey, if you could point out to me where I say you can't hold a mobile in one hand I'd gladly understand your sarcastic point. You can hold a wheel with a decent grip with a cigarette between your fingers, now, as it happens I don't do either, I'm just pointing out that smoking and driving is far easier than using a phone and driving. 20kmh is about 12mph. Aside from being stuck in traffic it's hard to imagine many people driving around so slow, but still, I've seen peoe crash in car parks when distracted looking for a space at slower speeds - whilst the world didn't end, it's still an expensive repair bill.
ADK Posted 4 September 2014 Posted 4 September 2014 I've sent a few quick texts while waiting at red lights, does that make me a bad person?
Collymore Posted 4 September 2014 Posted 4 September 2014 I've sent a few quick texts while waiting at red lights, does that make me a bad person?Depends if they've turned green and you're still there texting holding us all up!!!
Fox92 Posted 4 September 2014 Posted 4 September 2014 I've sent a few quick texts while waiting at red lights, does that make me a bad person? Â If people started admitting to stuff they've done in their life, I think we'd have a few "bad people" around.
Vardinhio Posted 4 September 2014 Posted 4 September 2014 Leicestershire Fire and Resuce have been using that film for a while now. I personally think those officers that sit up on roundabouts looking for phone users do a great job.
Buzzell Posted 4 September 2014 Posted 4 September 2014 I once saw a video, on Facebook, of the aftermath of a car crash. It was horrendous. I could find it and post it on here but it is horrific. The crash apparently happened due to somebody on their phone whilst driving.
Jimothy Posted 4 September 2014 Posted 4 September 2014 I once saw a video, on Facebook, of the aftermath of a car crash. It was horrendous. I could find it and post it on here but it is horrific. The crash apparently happened due to somebody on their phone whilst driving. Stick it in a spoiler. Those that want to watch it can and those that don't can leave it.
Buzzell Posted 4 September 2014 Posted 4 September 2014 Not for the faint hearted. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bc1_1396498783
Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo Posted 4 September 2014 Posted 4 September 2014 Not for the faint hearted. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bc1_1396498783 Bloody hell must have been going some speed. Shouldn't have watched the last 10 seconds I'm about to eat Mind you after seeing that Ukranian air show disaster footage most of this kind of footage looks like Sesame Street in comparison
ADK Posted 4 September 2014 Posted 4 September 2014 Not for the faint hearted. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bc1_1396498783 Â Assuming it's not somehow fake I don't get why everyone's just milling around taking pictures on their phones while some of the casualties are alive.
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