Grewks Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 Just reading about formations, I haven't seen that much of you this season, what's with this 433, is that how you're playing every week? We have stuck with the 442 that served us both so well last season. we stuck with the system that we beat united with... unfortunately the players looked a bit rusty today.
Guest Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 Vardy puts that ball in the net first and it's a completely different game that could have seen us bring 3pts home.
Guest Col city fan Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 I can't believe you're accusing me of over-analysing a game you haven't even seen. Don't be so precious. I'm making the point that any loss can be overly analysed, Pearson explained why he did what he did and that it's probable there were many other factors at play. Like you said really. All my points remain. We hopefully learn, move on and beat Burnley. It sounds like it was our poor defending of set pieces which again, was a major problem? This can happen if you play 4-4-1-1, 4-4-2 or 1-9-1. Take it on the chin. Pearson has shown time over that he can learn from losses.
Callabinho Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 It was a bad day at the office, simples. The only real fact from today's game is, that chances in the PL are few n' far between. You've got to take them, otherwise today happens.
kingfox Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 If you listened to Pearson's post match interview on Radio Leicester, he got pretty cross when it was suggested we went long ball. I've not seen the game buddy, but Nige suggested that we played some decent football in the middle, passing it around, with a view to bringing them onto us, opening them up and THEN getting the ball into the spaces behind. That was his game plan. To draw them on to us, and then exploit the flanks with the pace men. It didn't work too well, but it sometimes doesn't TTFN. It may have been that the players became over confident after last week, they may have been not bothered today, or they may have just been beaten by a side who were just up for it? I think you CAN over analyse tactically. As you say, there are a hundred and one things that can result in a team winning or losing a football match. And finally, just because a poster proposes a 4-4-1-1 or whatever..big deal. You don't have to be a football expert to give such a view or to proclaim at you were right after a game. We move on and hopefully havig learnt how unforgiving this division can be. You are just putting the loss down to today, by basically saying the players weren't up for it. Maybe the players didn't show the intensity & all round quality that they showed against United, but still open your eyes Col, Pearson got it wrong today. Bolasie & Puncheon against De Laet & Konchesky with no support in front of them, was a terrible decision by the manager. From past games against Palace, and if you've seen them on tv against other teams, you know full well how dangerous Yannick Bolasie especially can be, I could see it coming a mile off today when I saw the formations, & that De Laet & Konchesky would be up against two wingers who are capable of causing problems. They simply needed support today both defensively & in an attacking sense, so therefore despite the team looking lacklustre all over the pitch, there should be some blame tactically from the management as well.
Grewks Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 I do not think you can say pearson got it right or wrong...in a game where you lose 2-0 by conceding from 2 set pieces. We looked good first 25.
cjslcfc Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 Did anyone else think today reminded them of the 2-1 loss at our place in their promotion season?
Strokes Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 A bit of a set back today but I still fancy us for the title.
Guest Col city fan Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 You are just putting the loss down to today, by basically saying the players weren't up for it. Maybe the players didn't show the intensity & all round quality that they showed against United, but still open your eyes Col, Pearson got it wrong today. Bolasie & Puncheon against De Laet & Konchesky with no support in front of them, was a terrible decision by the manager. From past games against Palace, and if you've seen them on tv against other teams, you know full well how dangerous Yannick Bolasie especially can be, I could see it coming a mile off today when I saw the formations, & that De Laet & Konchesky would be up against two wingers who are capable of causing problems. They simply needed support today both defensively & in an attacking sense, so therefore despite the team looking lacklustre all over the pitch, there should be some blame tactically from the management as well. You open your eyes and read! I said there a hundred and one things that can contribute to a team losing a football match. Tactics being just one of them. And if you did rightly say change it up a bit, pre match, then super dooper and well done! Shame though ain't it?
Grewks Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 You open your eyes and read! I said there a hundred and one things that can contribute to a team losing a football match. Tactics being just one of them. And if you did rightly say change it up a bit, pre match, then super dooper and well done! Shame though ain't it? The most disappointing thing from my point of view, in the build up Shakey stated that irrelevant of the performance and result against united he would pick a side best capable of beating palace. Surely NP is tactically astute enough to realised that bolasie is their best player?
HankMarvin Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 Awful second half RDL good going forward, but teams seem to play the ball behind him an awful lot - must be seen as a weak link by the opposition prior to the games as a lot of play seems to be aimed down that channel. 2 sucker punch goals seemed to suck all of the confidence from the team - devoid of ideas , poor sub choices we looked worse after EC came off!!!
Guest ttfn Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 Why would you have played knockaert? For me there is not a single aspect of his game which is not inferior to mahrez... Personally, I would have started albrighton in front of de laet... .........................kasper .Ritchie...morgan......moore.....konch .......................Cambiasso .albrighton.....drinky.....king......schlupp ............................ulloa I'm not saying I would have started Knockaert, but at half time, with it being apparent that Palace had set up to defend deep, having somebody to pick open a defence like that is invaluable. Knockaert is a different player to Mahrez. Mahrez has a lot of pace and a good eye for a pass, whereas Knockaert has a flair for the unpredictable. At times it can be utterly infuriating but today we were completely one dimensional; he certainly wouldn't have made things worse. There's no point in having him in the squad if you don't throw him in for games where the opposition are behind the ball.
inckley fox Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 It's possible for manager to get his approach to a game wrong without it being greatly to his detriment. Kasparov lost plenty of games when he was at his peak, and it was his fault every time it happened. But he was still the best chess player in history. Ultimately managers take responsibility for results. Even more so when they are 3 years into their tenure, with a set of players that they have assembled, and tactics which they have prepared those players for over a prolonged period. Equally, though, all managers get things wrong, all players occasionally misplace a pass or get caught in possession. He got a few things wrong today; the selections of Nugent / Hammond / De Laet may be among them, as well as settling for a winning team / formation, the substitution of Cambiasso etc. Some of these things he will kick himself for, others will go down as things which you can't account for - the awful performance of Drinkwater and so on. He'll make plenty more errors too - all of which will be fine for us to analyse, criticise, ponder over - but if he learns from them and gets it right often enough then he'll have done a decent job.
EGBFitness Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 Very ineffective today. Struggled to find space, got bullied in the air, Palace utilised their wingers well against our narrow set up and forwards never looked like scoring/linking up. Only players can think of having ok game would be Kasper & Esteban. Wasn't expecting result today but these games will be the judge of characters we have in the team to see how we can bounce back.
Guest Col city fan Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 Awful second half RDL good going forward, but teams seem to play the ball behind him an awful lot - must be seen as a weak link by the opposition prior to the games as a lot of play seems to be aimed down that channel. 2 sucker punch goals seemed to suck all of the confidence from the team - devoid of ideas , poor sub choices we looked worse after EC came off!!! I've said right from the first game, where it was very apparent, I believe teams are targeting RDL as our weakest defender. I'm not surprised. If I were an opposition manager, so would I.
Sharpe's Fox Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 Two set piece goals were the only the deciding factors in this game. Yes Bolasie opened us up at times but we defended valiantly for 88 minutes. I don't think people should be blaming Nigel for losing because of what was basically poor defending from two corners.
roger the dodger Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 bad day at the office move on 3 points v Burnley and this will be forgotten
HankMarvin Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 Two set piece goals were the only the deciding factors in this game. Yes Bolasie opened us up at times but we defended valiantly for 88 minutes. I don't think people should be blaming Nigel for losing because of what was basically poor defending from two corners. Right ok, but apart from the 1st few minutes of the 2nd half as an attacking force we offered nothing in stark contrast to the Chelsea game despite the defeat we looked like we could score
Sharpe's Fox Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 Right ok, but apart from the 1st few minutes of the 2nd half as an attacking force we offered nothing in stark contrast to the Chelsea game despite the defeat we looked like we could score I never said two set pieces were why we didn't win the game, I said it was why we lost it. A 0-0 would have been a good result in this fixture, and if it stayed goalless or even 1-0 our heads and so our performance wouldn't have probably gone down quite so much.
Humpy Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 Just back from our game, what the hell happened yous? Had to look twice at the score, at least it was an away fixture. Reading through this thread it seems many aren't happy with the performance, still given your fixture list recently it's understandable the players might have been a bit tired/drained.
StanSP Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 Just back from our game, what the hell happened yous? Had to look twice at the score, at least it was an away fixture. Reading through this thread it seems many aren't happy with the performance, still given your fixture list recently it's understandable the players might have been a bit tired/drained. It was more tactically that we failed and coming up against well organised, disciplined and solid Palace side.
Guest Col city fan Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 Just back from our game, what the hell happened yous? Had to look twice at the score, at least it was an away fixture. Reading through this thread it seems many aren't happy with the performance, still given your fixture list recently it's understandable the players might have been a bit tired/drained. Nope.. It was all tactics.. cos Kingfox said so..
Unabomber Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 Just back from our game, what the hell happened yous? Had to look twice at the score, at least it was an away fixture. Reading through this thread it seems many aren't happy with the performance, still given your fixture list recently it's understandable the players might have been a bit tired/drained. Shocks happen man, just look at your result today
Humpy Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 It was more tactically that we failed and coming up against well organised, disciplined and solid Palace side.Looking forward to watching it tonight, Palace have certainly been a big surprise this season given their disruptive off pitch problems at the start of the season.
Humpy Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 Shocks happen man, just look at your result today I've got roughly 15 texts telling me that today already
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