Monsell1976 Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 Shit journey, shit ground, shit performance, but ay ho onto the next one. I'm not even going to comment on individuals, just a bad day all round, we were bullied from the first minute, and had no answer. Just another game, only one game, the response next game is important.
Freesolo Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 Shit journey, shit ground, shit performance, but ay ho onto the next one. I'm not even going to comment on individuals, just a bad day all round, we were bullied from the first minute, and had no answer. Just another game, only one game, the response next game is important. You guys sounded great in the first half what did you make of the atmosphere?, shame about the result but on to the next one
Walshy5 Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 I said straight after the man utd game last week it'd be typical of us to go and lose today now. Disscusting performance! No passion no urgency no attacking threat and shit defending. These are the kind of games we need to be winning and if we continue to do this against teams like palace it'll be a swift return to the championship!
Burbo17J2 Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 Its fine... Its not like that was the worst performance we've ever seen... As long as the players know how they need to improve, and do that against Burnley and give us another 3 points then I will be happy, we are still 9th in the Premier League for god sakes
LanguedocFox Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 Palace fan in peace. Came over to check what you guys thought about the game and many kind words. Being gracious in defeat is difficult. I think we'll both stay up and well done on last week. Also worth making the point that we did have the examples of Stoke and Man U fans to follow: object lessons in graciousness, both of them.
st albans fox Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 Its fine... Its not like that was the worst performance we've ever seen... you mean we've played worse than that or were you speaking about other teams aswell ?
Burbo17J2 Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 you mean we've played worse than that or were you speaking about other teams aswell ?Our performance
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 ****ing dreadful away end Palace have. Was back row and couldn't see a thing so moved down. People all in aisles standing in gantry areas shitty stewards. Piss poor away end if you're more than half way back. Those restricted view seats where were they!?!?! I bought mine first or second day of main priority sales so why was I at the back there couldn't have been a worse view any where else.
kingfox Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 Said from the outset days ago, that if we played the same team & same formation it would of been a risk, and that risk backfired. Manchester United didn't play two out & out wingers last week, but Palace did today & it seems it caused us problems. Bolasie running at De Laet was always going to be tough regarding the formation we played; however having nobody in front of De Laet to support him defensively against Bolasie is poor judgement from Pearson unfortunately, same applies to the other side with Puncheon up against Konchesky, Schlupp doesn't set the World alight & isn't a favourite amongst fans, but against Everton, Chelsea & Arsenal his partnership with Konchesky looked very good. I've mentioned the 4-3-3 formation many times before over the season's, and it isn't a favourite of mine, it worked against Manchester United but on many occasions down the years it hasn't worked especially when we play strikers like Nugent out wide, it's a formation that can work for us sometimes but sometimes it doesn't, this season 4-4-1-1 has proved to be the main formation we picked up points from Everton, Arsenal & Stoke by playing that, so for Burnley I'd go back to that formation or maybe revert back to our trustworthy 4-4-2, and if that means leaving out Nugent or Vardy some weeks then so be it. The same thing happened against Crystal Palace a few years ago if I recall, two goals from set pieces, their pace with Bolasie then caused us problems, while on the physical side we couldn't cope with Jedinak & Dikgacoi that day, Jedinak today pops up with a goal & proved a handful in midfield, and Bolasie caused us problems on the wing. Bad day at the office & we are going to get them at times this season, but what frustrates me the most is conceding from set pieces...again - When will we bloody learn
Webbo Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 I agree about the same team and formation but I can see why it was done. Realistically the way Palace defended if we'd played our usual 4-4-1-1 it would have probably been a nil nil at best.
GingerrrFox Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 I agree about the same team and formation but I can see why it was done. Realistically the way Palace defended if we'd played our usual 4-4-1-1 it would have probably been a nil nil at best.You'd take a point in a bore draw over that shite today though.
z-layrex Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 Was sat in Palace end, entire game was absolute torture. Shower of shit.
Webbo Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 You'd take a point in a bore draw over that shite today though. Definitely.
Sir Shep Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 I really don't know what to say, clearly a disappointing performance and result but surely this is to be expected in this division. Palace are a good side, they are at home and we don't have a God given right to beat them just because we beat Man U. Im sure Nige will be the most disappointed out of all of us.
Guest ttfn Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 No credit goes to Kingfox for suggesting this. It can often be wise not to change a winning side and most of us, I think, thought the side looked very good pre match. I think people will over analyse. We just got beat by the better side. It happens, dust yourself down and move on. But the point is that Kingfox didn't think that, did he? He was right. The tactical set up was all wrong. We conceded twice from set pieces, one of which came as a result of a free kick won in a wide area because we couldn't (or at least didn't) defend that area of the pitch properly. Saying "we got beaten by the better side" as a means of avoiding actually analysing what happens is lazy and meaningless. De Laet got given such a hard time he got taken off. A DM was a complete waste of a shirt today given Palace's lack of interest in playing 2 up front or a man just in behind Campbell. We got our tactics wrong - Palace played exactly as we thought they would and we completely played into their hands. This was a very winnable game but the tactics and application were very, very poor today, and some people did see it coming with that lineup.
Dr The Singh Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 But the point is that Kingfox didn't think that, did he? He was right. The tactical set up was all wrong. We conceded twice from set pieces, one of which came as a result of a free kick won in a wide area because we couldn't (or at least didn't) defend that area of the pitch properly. Saying "we got beaten by the better side" as a means of avoiding actually analysing what happens is lazy and meaningless. De Laet got given such a hard time he got taken off. A DM was a complete waste of a shirt today given Palace's lack of interest in playing 2 up front or a man just in behind Campbell. We got our tactics wrong - Palace played exactly as we thought they would and we completely played into their hands. This was a very winnable game but the tactics and application were very, very poor today, and some people did see it coming with that lineup. No surprise to me though, whatever formation or tactic, Warnocks team would have bullied us!!
ADK Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 But the point is that Kingfox didn't think that, did he? He was right. The tactical set up was all wrong. We conceded twice from set pieces, one of which came as a result of a free kick won in a wide area because we couldn't (or at least didn't) defend that area of the pitch properly. Saying "we got beaten by the better side" as a means of avoiding actually analysing what happens is lazy and meaningless. De Laet got given such a hard time he got taken off. A DM was a complete waste of a shirt today given Palace's lack of interest in playing 2 up front or a man just in behind Campbell. We got our tactics wrong - Palace played exactly as we thought they would and we completely played into their hands. This was a very winnable game but the tactics and application were very, very poor today, and some people did see it coming with that lineup. This.
Guest ttfn Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 I agree about the same team and formation but I can see why it was done. Realistically the way Palace defended if we'd played our usual 4-4-1-1 it would have probably been a nil nil at best. Maybe. Palace certainly defended very well, but had we kept the ball on the floor we'd have stood a much better chance, even with the completely inappropriate formation we were playing.
Fox92 Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 ****ing dreadful away end Palace have. Was back row and couldn't see a thing so moved down. People all in aisles standing in gantry areas shitty stewards. Piss poor away end if you're more than half way back. Those restricted view seats where were they!?!?! I bought mine first or second day of main priority sales so why was I at the back there couldn't have been a worse view any where else. One of the reasons I hate it. Been once before, was near the top.
palace123 Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 Palace fan in Peace, just back from the game. First half I thought you were well on top, playing some nice stuff, 2nd half though I thought we really got on top physically, we are a very big side, I cant remember Ulloa winning a header against our huge defenders who were fantastic today. Think Pearson made a big mistake not doubling on our wide players, Bolasie ran riot 2nd halve. To be fair I actually though it was Pen on Vardy albeit a soft one.
ADK Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 No surprise to me though, whatever formation or tactic, Warnocks team would have bullied us!! I disagree, if we protected our fullbacks they would have had no attacking threat.
Guest Col city fan Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 But the point is that Kingfox didn't think that, did he? He was right. The tactical set up was all wrong. We conceded twice from set pieces, one of which came as a result of a free kick won in a wide area because we couldn't (or at least didn't) defend that area of the pitch properly. Saying "we got beaten by the better side" as a means of avoiding actually analysing what happens is lazy and meaningless. De Laet got given such a hard time he got taken off. A DM was a complete waste of a shirt today given Palace's lack of interest in playing 2 up front or a man just in behind Campbell. We got our tactics wrong - Palace played exactly as we thought they would and we completely played into their hands. This was a very winnable game but the tactics and application were very, very poor today, and some people did see it coming with that lineup. I think you're over-analysing. The formation has worked ok for us before, though I did think pre match that Nige would go for the 4-4-2. We just got beat, it happens. Two things.. To say that KingFox got it right is a pants argument. Simply suggesting changing it up is too easy. Secondly, to blame the formation places the blame at the feet of Pearson and none at the players. It sounds like (I wasn't there) they just weren't up for it. This is as worrying as any tactical error.
cuddly ken Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 Not surprised about today's defeat, but one defeat doesn't make us a bad team same as last weeks win against a poor Man U doesn't make us world beaters. Let just enjoy the ride, took us long enough to get back so relax, drink beer, kiss women and be happy.
ADK Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 I think you're over-analysing. The formation has worked ok for us before, though I did think pre match that Nige would go for the 4-4-2. We just got beat, it happens. Two things.. To say that KingFox got it right is a pants argument. Simply suggesting changing it up is too easy. Secondly, to blame the formation places the blame at the feet of Pearson and none at the players. It sounds like (I wasn't there) they just weren't up for it. This is as worrying as any tactical error. Not over-analysing it was the wrong formation.
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