Captain... Posted 12 December 2014 Posted 12 December 2014 Would anyone in their right mind actually want Brand to stand for election? Agreeing with his rhetoric is one thing but actually wanting Brand as an MP why not Ian Hislop or Charlie Brooker? He won't stand because he has nothing to gain and a lot to lose. Even if he did get elected he would have zero influence in the House of Commons as an independent. He reaches a lot more people with a single tweet and would be more likely to effect serious political reform by encouraging millions of people not to vote than by standing himself. If turn out was to fall any further then it would make a mockery of our so called democracy and hopefully force through a change to the outdated and unrepresentative fptp system we currently have.
Rincewind Posted 12 December 2014 Posted 12 December 2014 She only wanted one. I don't agree in 'popping' kids out one after another and hope to live on benefits. It is expensive to raise a child and it cannot be done on child allowance alone despite what people are led to think. She has her media work now to support herself and son.
Darkon84 Posted 12 December 2014 Posted 12 December 2014 Brand has posted his view of Question Time, on his Facebook now. It's annoyed me more than it should, and it isn't helped by all his tweeny followers commenting, who had probably never heard of Question Time until last night, and still, probably didn't watch it. Anyway, fill yer boots! https://www.facebook.com/RussellBrand/posts/10152569206828177 Answer time I’ve just got home from recording bbc tv’s political debate show Question Time and if you saw it and found it anti-climactic, I know how you feel. Nigel Farage in the flesh, gin blossomed flesh that it is, inspires sympathy more than fear, an end of the pier, end of the road, end of days politician, who like many people who drink too much has a certain sloppy sadness. Camilla Cavendish who I was sat next to, seemed kindly and the two politicians from opposing parties, that flanked Dimbleby melted into an indistinguishable potage of cautious wonk words before I could properly learn which was blue and which was red. For my part I sat politely on my hands, keen to avoid hollering obscenities after a week of hypocrisy accusations and half-arsed, front page controversy. Only the audience inspire passion or connection. Humanity. The usual preposterous jumble that you see in any of our towns, even if groomed and prepped by Auntie, they comparatively throb with authenticity opposite us, across the shark-eyed bank of cumbersome cameras. The panelists have been together in “the green room” chatting, like before any TV show, and that’s what QT is, a TV show, a timid and tepid debate where the topics and dynamism of the discussion are as wooden and flat as the table we gamely sit around. There is a practice question prior to the record, so the cameras can position and mics can be checked and the audience can practice harrumphing. In my dressing room at the modern Kentish theatre, before my sticky descent, I can hear them being prepped “ask questions, quarrel, applaud, keep those hands up”. The practice question is a soft ball rhubarb toss about clumping kids or something and even though I’m determined to concentrate like a grown up, my mind drifts back to the Canterbury Food Bank I visited before arriving, partly to learn about it, as a researcher told me there might be question on them and first hand knowledge would make me look good, and partly because, y’know, I actually care. In a warehouse in a retail park Christians and sixth formers assemble bags of what would rightly be considered “staples” in a kinder world. Tins of food and packets of biscuits and it’s good that we’re near to the “White Cliffs of Dover” because it feels like there’s a war on and the livid coloured packaging goes sepia in my mind as Dame Vera scores the melancholy scene. The Christians are as Christians are, kind and optimistic. The donations come from ordinary local folk “We get more from the poorer people” says Martin, a quick deputy in a cuddly jumper. “More from Asda shoppers than Waitrose.” As I contemplate cancelling my Ocado (or whatever the **** it’s called) order Chrissy, the lady who runs the scheme says that this year people who received packages previously have now donated themselves. Previous recipients often volunteer an all. Here older folk and the students diligently box off the nosh and I determine to give them and their heartening endeavor a shout out on the show and my writhing, nervous gut begins to settle. Chrissy explains how the Caterbury Food Bank has brought people together, not just those it feeds but those who volunteer. “It seemed like a good way to worship Christ” she says. Martin, who I am starting to gently fall in love with, observes that supermarkets profit from the enterprise as Food Bank campaigns encourage their customers to spend more there. “Do you think there’s an obligation for the state to feed people?” I ask “or room for a bit more Jesus kicking the money lenders out of the temple type stuff?”They smile. Many who use their facility are people that work full time and still fall short, others have suffered under “benefit sanctions”. “They’re very quick to cut off people’s benefits these days” says Martin. “People think that Canterbury is affluent, but all around us are pockets of the hidden hungry”. The hidden hungry. “I’m gonna use that” I tell him as I scarper. He makes a very British joke about charging me as I get in the car and I tell him I nicked some jammy dodgers, and we laugh so that’s alright. I think about the hidden hungry as I settle into my QT chair and get “mic’d up”. Farage entered to a simultaneous cheer and jeer, they cancel each other out, like bose headphones and leave an eerie silence. David Dimbleby says something about it being panto season and someone in the audience says “oh no it isn’t” and I love him for it, even though I’m pretty sure he was one of the UKip cheerers. And a pantomime it is, well not so entertaining, no flouncing dames or doleful Buttons or rousing songs, just semi-staged tittle-tattle and bickering. The only worthwhile sentiments, be they raging or insightful come from the audience, across the camera bank. The man who brings up politicians pay rises, the man who demands I stand for parliament (so that he could not vote for me judging from his antipathy), the mad, lovely blue hair woman who swears at everyone, mostly though the woman who says “Why are we talking about immigrants? It’s a side issue, this crisis was caused by financial negligence and the subsequent bail-out”. This piece of rhetoric more valuable than anything I could’ve said, including my pound-shop Enoch Powell gag. More potent than the one thing I regret not saying because time and format did not permit it. That the people have the wisdom, not politicians, that the old paradigm is broken and will not be repaired. That the future is collectivised power. Parliamentary politics is dead, they, it’s denizens, wandering from aye to neigh from Tory to UKip know it’s dead and we know it’s dead. Farage is worse than stagnant, he is a tribute act, he is a nostalgic spasm for a Britain that never was; an infinite cricket green with no one from the colonies to raise the game, grammar schools on every corner and shamed women breastfeeding under giant parasols. The Britain of the future will be born of alliances between ordinary, self-governing people, organised locally, communicating globally. Built on principles that are found in traditions like Christianity; community, altruism, kindness, love. In the “practice question” Farage says it’s okay to hit children “it’s good for them to be afraid” he said. There is a lot of fear about in our country at the moment and he is certainly benefitting from it. But the Britain I love is unafraid and brave. We have a laugh together, we take care of one another, we love an underdog and we unite to confront bullies. We voluntarily feed the poor when the government won’t do it. These ideas and actions that I saw in the food bank and across the camera bank are where the real power lies and this new power is the answer, no question about it. #bbcqt
bovril Posted 12 December 2014 Posted 12 December 2014 I'm actually starting to warm to Brand. He shags a lot and winds up Express readers. What's not to like?
Webbo Posted 12 December 2014 Posted 12 December 2014 I'm actually starting to warm to Brand. He shags a lot and winds up Express readers. What's not to like? He's a boring tw@t.
bovril Posted 12 December 2014 Posted 12 December 2014 He's a boring tw@t. Meh, who isn't these days.
bovril Posted 12 December 2014 Posted 12 December 2014 Wee Jimmy Kranky. Next week, on Question Time.
Guest MattP Posted 12 December 2014 Posted 12 December 2014 Rrrrrr Russell, look at what you could have won. Apparently when Farage walked into make up Brand was asking for someone to straighten his chest hair.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 12 December 2014 Posted 12 December 2014 Rrrrrr Russell, look at what you could have won. Apparently when Farage walked into make up Brand was asking for someone to straighten his chest hair. omg, please be true
Guest MattP Posted 12 December 2014 Posted 12 December 2014 In his column in the Independent today Sure it's online.
Guest MattP Posted 12 December 2014 Posted 12 December 2014 http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/nigel-farage-me-vs-russell-brand-on-question-time--hes-got-the-chest-hair-but-where-are-his-ideas-9919668.html Has been embellished a bit on Twitter but he was having them straightened
l444ry Posted 12 December 2014 Posted 12 December 2014 Brand's cop-out answer when that bloke challenged him to stand for election says it all about him. The guy says some stuff I agree with occasionally but he's completely gutless and off his rocker if he thinks not voting is the answer to political apathy in this country. The only two to come out of QT looking good last night were the Times journo and Dimbleby for keeping things on track. Nothing is at it seems is it? Russell Brand loud mouthed by a UKIP MEP's brother. Where do the Beeb get their audiences.
ousefox Posted 12 December 2014 Posted 12 December 2014 Times journo was fantastic. Only really watch question time if there are people on who are going to make it quite lively. Most of the answers the politicians give are just too predictable and boring.
Guest MattP Posted 12 December 2014 Posted 12 December 2014 Nothing is at it seems is it? Russell Brand loud mouthed by a UKIP MEP's brother. Where do the Beeb get their audiences. Usually the local labour party office or university, although if they aren't available they just call a few staff up from downstairs.
l444ry Posted 12 December 2014 Posted 12 December 2014 Usually the local labour party office or university, although if they aren't available they just call a few staff up from downstairs. .......and UKIP "plants" specifically placed to undermine Brand!
Rincewind Posted 12 December 2014 Posted 12 December 2014 That is true. Never watched it myself but the opinions about how Brand was are different to those I saw on a Facebook page in a group I use. One sided the other way. I agree with some stuff that he says but not the revolution part. People are getting fed up with politics and as others have said on here needs a shake up before turnouts at the polls get much lower.
Bellend Sebastian Posted 12 December 2014 Posted 12 December 2014 How's that judged? I take a lot of notes and give it a lot of thought
Guest MattP Posted 12 December 2014 Posted 12 December 2014 That is true. Never watched it myself but the opinions about how Brand was are different to those I saw on a Facebook page in a group I use. One sided the other way. I agree with some stuff that he says but not the revolution part. People are getting fed up with politics and as others have said on here needs a shake up before turnouts at the polls get much lower. I'm very confident turnout will be up next year.
Guest MattP Posted 12 December 2014 Posted 12 December 2014 .......and UKIP "plants" specifically placed to undermine Brand! The BBC made him spout that lie about Farage blaming the disabled then? If he hadn't started telling untruths to try and attack someone he wouldn't be in a position to be undermined would he?
Rincewind Posted 12 December 2014 Posted 12 December 2014 I wonder how many will turnout if there was a box 'None of the above' available?
Webbo Posted 12 December 2014 Posted 12 December 2014 I wonder how many will turnout if there was a box 'None of the above' available? I seriously doubt there would be much difference. If you can't be bothered to vote for a party why would you go to the polling station to vote for nobody?
Guest MattP Posted 12 December 2014 Posted 12 December 2014 Not many I'd imagine. People can't be arsed to turn the tele over these days let alone walk down to a polling station. Spoiling the ballot is effectively the same and very few do it. Are me and Davie getting an answer to the questions we asked about the public footing the bill for women who choose to have a kid despite not being able to afford it or be in a relationship?
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