ImBlue Posted 3 December 2014 Posted 3 December 2014 will it take before all the pearsonites agree a change is needed? They are his players, his tactics (loose description) and his style of play. His job is to bring in quality, motivate players, get the best out of them, put tactics in place and get results. He is doing none of the above at the minute and I just wanted to know how long it is before you lose patience?
MC Prussian Posted 3 December 2014 Posted 3 December 2014 will it take before all the pearsonites agree a change is needed? They are his players, his tactics (loose description) and his style of play. His job is to bring in quality, motivate players, get the best out of them, put tactics in place and get results. He is doing none of the above at the minute and I just wanted to know how long it is before you lose patience? Even if we should get relegated (which is still a long way to go before we could actually get there), I'd stick with him. Parachute payments should make us an even better outfit for potential Championship years. We haven't signed anyone on massive wages, which is a bonus a level down. Financially, we're going the right way. And we're currently not too far off making the cut above 17th in the Premier League, which is all we need. I'm also curious to see how we're performing in the January transfer market. At the moment, I tend to lose more patience with some of our so-called fans than with the manager.
sylofox Posted 3 December 2014 Posted 3 December 2014 will it take before all the pearsonites agree a change is needed? They are his players, his tactics (loose description) and his style of play. His job is to bring in quality, motivate players, get the best out of them, put tactics in place and get results. He is doing none of the above at the minute and I just wanted to know how long it is before you lose patience? Did you see last nites game. without the Wes sending off it could have been different. And looking at it I would say watch the last 10 mins again (or for the first time) the one thing they did not lack last night was motivation. They were going for it right till the last kick they never gave up. Un motivated players would have given up ours did not infact we got better the longer it went on.
ImBlue Posted 3 December 2014 Author Posted 3 December 2014 Even if we should get relegated (which is still a long way to go before we could actually get there), I'd stick with him. Parachute payments should make us an even better outfit for potential Championship years. We haven't signed anyone on massive wages, which is a bonus a level down. Financially, we're going the right way. And we're currently not too far off making the cut above 17th in the Premier League, which is all we need. I'm also curious to see how we're performing in the January transfer market. At the moment, I tend to lose more patience with some of our so-called fans than with the manager. Not too far off? 8 games without a win and just 2 points from them. I reckon if we had zero points some on here would say 'we're only 4 wins away from 17th'
ImBlue Posted 3 December 2014 Author Posted 3 December 2014 Did you see last nites game. without the Wes sending off it could have been different. And looking at it I would say watch the last 10 mins again (or for the first time) the one thing they did not lack last night was motivation. They were going for it right till the last kick they never gave up. Un motivated players would have given up ours did not infact we got better the longer it went on. ST Holder and away game follower. So give that up. We looked up for it last night (against liverpool who wouldn't be?) but we lacked quality, defensively we were poor and set pieces are still terrible. I struggle to understand what he would have to do to lose some peoples backing..
Rileigh84 Posted 3 December 2014 Posted 3 December 2014 Frankly, after 4 full seasons and 2 half seasons in charge, either winning the league we were in or making the play-off's in all but on of those 5 years in charge (and that was the 1/2 season) - and after returning to the club after how Mandaric treated Pearson - I think we need to show him some more respect.Statistically Leicester City's most successful manager ever. A win ratio that exceeds any other Leicester manager. More league titles. More records broken (9 in total). The guy get's us in to the Premier League, I think he deserves the season to get it right and I have every faith he will get it right too. As Sylofox says, had Wes not been sent off last night it could have been a very different story. We're just not getting the rub of the green at the moment.
Rileigh84 Posted 3 December 2014 Posted 3 December 2014 ps. This would be the reason why most fans will stick by him. Statistically he always gets it right in the end. It's short sighted for fans to think changing the manager now would help.
ImBlue Posted 3 December 2014 Author Posted 3 December 2014 ps. This would be the reason why most fans will stick by him. Statistically he always gets it right in the end. It's short sighted for fans to think changing the manager now would help. Not in league one now?
Wilson_6 Posted 3 December 2014 Posted 3 December 2014 ps. This would be the reason why most fans will stick by him. Statistically he always gets it right in the end. It's short sighted for fans to think changing the manager now would help. Only Leicester fans could think of sacking our most successfully manager in recent years.
ImBlue Posted 3 December 2014 Author Posted 3 December 2014 Only Leicester fans could think of sacking our most successfully manager in recent years. Only leicester fans compare records of a manager in the second and third tier to those previously operating in a higher league.
Babylon Posted 3 December 2014 Posted 3 December 2014 will it take before all the pearsonites agree a change is needed? They are his players, his tactics (loose description) and his style of play. His job is to bring in quality, motivate players, get the best out of them, put tactics in place and get results. He is doing none of the above at the minute and I just wanted to know how long it is before you lose patience? Dunno, how long will the Stringerites put up with his substandard reporting before they agree a change is needed.
st albans fox Posted 3 December 2014 Posted 3 December 2014 Only leicester fans compare records of a manager in the second and third tier to those previously operating in a higher league. Quite ! His win percentage is skewed by that one season although i suspect his championship record stands up to scrutiny. We were good enough against a poorish lpool side to have got a point if wes hadn't blown it. That does hide the facts that we lack quality in several areas and will go down unless we can address it in jan. Perhaps the powers that be are happy for us to yoyo for a few seasons as the club builds back it's balance sheet following their 100mill debt swap.
harpendenfox Posted 3 December 2014 Posted 3 December 2014 ST Holder and away game follower. So give that up. We looked up for it last night (against liverpool who wouldn't be?) but we lacked quality, defensively we were poor and set pieces are still terrible. I struggle to understand what he would have to do to lose some peoples backing.. I think about this far more than is probably healthy, and I can't deny that we're struggling and have probably come into the season lacking the requisite quality, but as others have said we're clearly not far off. Yes the though of leaving the Prem no sooner than we've returned to it is a hideous one, but none of us knows if changing the manager will help. The only alternative manager coming under serious discussion is TP, and his record deserves respect. But that does not mean he would keep us up. He might, he might not. For the most part NP has been successful with us. He is clearly intelligent, and despite his sometimes gruff media demeanour, popular within the Club. Our sports science work is as good as any. If we start to fall apart and there is evidence that players are no longer trying, then of course that would be the time to change, but I see no evidence of that. I also think that whoever is in charge it will be extremely hard to make significant changes in personnel come January.
The Doctor Posted 3 December 2014 Posted 3 December 2014 I'd stick with him for a while yet - we aren't far off, it's a silly mistake (Kasper spilling it for the third last night, full backs standing off and allowing the cross on Saturday) and a wastefulness in front of goal (Mahrez's break on Saturday, Vardys' 1 on 1s). People are making out like we're doomed already - we're not, we're a couple of points off where we want to finish but everything is there in parts. This run is frustrating, but it's a learning curve and besides, Pearson has been an excellent manager for us so far and I'd trust him more than any of the other options to keep us up
Fox Ulike Posted 3 December 2014 Posted 3 December 2014 will it take before all the pearsonites agree a change is needed? They are his players, his tactics (loose description) and his style of play. His job is to bring in quality, motivate players, get the best out of them, put tactics in place and get results. He is doing none of the above at the minute and I just wanted to know how long it is before you lose patience? There is no such thing as a ‘pearsonite’. There are only fans. Some fans think that the best interests of the club will be served by holding onto the current Manager. Geddit? If you actually watched the game last night you’ll have seen a bunch of quality, motivated players who pretty much matched Liverpool for an hour. What more do you honestly expect? Pearson’s not perfect and if you think that a new manager will magically improve things then you’re very much mistaken. In answer to your question, I think only a change is needed to tactics, not the manager. Admittedly, I think he’s got his tactics very wrong at the moment. But for everything he’s got wrong, Pearson has got 10 things right. You just seem to take for granted that he’s built this young squad pretty much from scratch for a modest investment. All the team are playing for the Manager. If they believe in him, why don’t you?
yorkie1999 Posted 3 December 2014 Posted 3 December 2014 Dunno, how long will the Stringerites put up with his substandard reporting before they agree a change is needed. Ha Ha . So if you'e a leicester fan you're either a Peasonite or a Stringerite. Sounds good to me.
howlinmadmurfdoc Posted 3 December 2014 Posted 3 December 2014 Recent performances or not the only reason we are in the premier league is because of Nigel Pearson, he tried a change of formation and he didn't work, so he's changed it back since then we've had a draw, lost one of the most open games I've ever seen and then lost to one of the best sides in the league. If you sack Pearson now you're mental, he deserves a season.
Clever Fox Posted 3 December 2014 Posted 3 December 2014 He deserves the full season. players are playing for him and getting better with each game. Were not too far away and with Upson ready to come into the side I feel things will improve further. man u was a fluke result. Little things change results in Football, that's why we love it. Cambi's miss and his strike that hit Vardy could have changed the result in our favour even without our defensive mistakes. The club is structured for success both on and off the pitch. It would be a big mistake to destroy that progress for the sake of any short term gain.
ImBlue Posted 3 December 2014 Author Posted 3 December 2014 There is no such thing as a ‘pearsonite’. There are only fans. Some fans think that the best interests of the club will be served by holding onto the current Manager. Geddit? If you actually watched the game last night you’ll have seen a bunch of quality, motivated players who pretty much matched Liverpool for an hour. What more do you honestly expect? Pearson’s not perfect and if you think that a new manager will magically improve things then you’re very much mistaken. In answer to your question, I think only a change is needed to tactics, not the manager. Admittedly, I think he’s got his tactics very wrong at the moment. But for everything he’s got wrong, Pearson has got 10 things right. You just seem to take for granted that he’s built this young squad pretty much from scratch for a modest investment. All the team are playing for the Manager. If they believe in him, why don’t you? I just believe that a manager as well as a player can make it to a certain level. That's not putting down the work he has done, that's quite simply saying he is struggling badly at this level. Tactics, bad. Quality of squad, not good enough. Signings, poor. Results, worse. Like any player at the club, we should move him on if they are not good enough. You say we aren't a million miles away, but we only needs to be a single mile away and we could spend another 10 years out of this wonderful league. His main issue is the lack of quality in the squad and notably in defensive areas, and this was pointed out by thousands of fans at the start of the season. Oh and his media handling is embarrassing. Can you imagine Brendan Rodgers saying 'were a better club in every way' about us if we got a late goal against them? Can you imagine him saying to the LFC fans, if you don't like that were underachieving don't come? You have to take credit when your doing well and criticism when you're not, and he's took criticism poorly and arrogantly.
Babylon Posted 3 December 2014 Posted 3 December 2014 Ha Ha . So if you'e a leicester fan you're either a Peasonite or a Stringerite. Sounds good to me. Well people were chucking labels about so I thought I'd make up my own. My first choice was something much harsher than that.
Babylon Posted 3 December 2014 Posted 3 December 2014 Oh and his media handling is embarrassing. Can you imagine Brendan Rodgers saying 'were a better club in every way' about us if we got a late goal against them? Can you imagine him saying to the LFC fans, if you don't like that were underachieving don't come? No I'd expect him to come out with some arse licking horse shit for their weirdo fans to lap up. Ever played the Rogers or Brent game? http://www.theguardian.com/football/quiz/2013/apr/02/brendan-rodgers-david-brent-quotes-quiz
David Hankey Posted 3 December 2014 Posted 3 December 2014 The Pearsonites can throw all the statistics they like I will NOT be baffled. At the end of the day the current plight has absolutely nothing at all to do with a) what he achieved in League 1, b) what he achieved in the Championship but ALL to do with this Premiership campaign and what can't speak simply can't lie. 2 wins and 4 draws and ZERO wins in 9 is clearly relegation form, end of!!
Monsell1976 Posted 3 December 2014 Posted 3 December 2014 will it take before all the pearsonites agree a change is needed? They are his players, his tactics (loose description) and his style of play. His job is to bring in quality, motivate players, get the best out of them, put tactics in place and get results. He is doing none of the above at the minute and I just wanted to know how long it is before you lose patience? I'm not adverse to change if it will get results, and not a pearsonite by a long way, but I respect the fact they are showing patience with him, and some of them need to respect that some are not as patient, and Pearson is making mistakes.The best thing for the club is Pearson starts getting it right and starts getting results, as for me I don't like mid season changes, and we just don't know if the new man will bring the best out of what we have, he would need time to get to know his players and decide what he needs to bring in, and time may not be in our side. All this said, a manager cannot continue getting results like this long term, something will give. I'm not convinced by Pearson, but truly live in hope, he turns this around, starting Sunday
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