AKCJ Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Does he know what he's doing though... Seriously? Because it certainly didn't look like he did today. Are you admitting to being a moron? I think he knows a damn sight more about his team than any on here. Lets be honest, it's not like Villa have walked all over us and we've been lucky to lose by just one.
Soar Fox Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 His one sub was genius...worked a treat. I think playing 5 at the back against a free scoring Aston Villa team worked wonders. The attacking threat they pose we did well to restrict them to only 2 goals. Not many teams have done that this season.
ScouseFox Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Does he know what he's doing though... Seriously? Because it certainly didn't look like he did today. but that's really not the point though, is it? no matter what you think about his tactics etc when you are there supporting your team you're meant to, you know, support your team. i can even see why some people would let their feelings be known by booing after the game, but literally chanting the opposite of support during the game is doing what, exactly? i doubt it's going to inspire any of this side to mount a comeback.
Soar Fox Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Are you admitting to being a moron? I think he knows a damn sight more about his team than any on here. Lets be honest, it's not like Villa have walked all over us and we've been lucky to lose by just one. He didn't look like he knew what he was doing when he was stood on the touch line for 45 minutes with his arms crossed. Mahrez & Schluup were great today weren't they, could definitely see why they were kept on instead of freshening things up.
baylisslcfc Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Having sat on the fence for a long time today's team selection, tactics and inability to even do the basics to any sort of acceptable standard is the final straw for me We will not stay up The manager is responsible for his personnel, for tactics, formation, training and motivation. He is responsible for success and responsible for failure. Pearson and many in this team are damaged goods by virtue of their experience this season. They will not be the same players and manager that got us promoted. I haven't seen anything to suggest that next season we will finish above whichever two sides come down with us or a number of the improving championship sides who are now building and developing as we had done I haven't seen anything to suggest that Pearson has learnt and adapted as the season has progressed. We are getting worse rather than better. If we keep Pearson and he gets us up it is unlikely that he would then be given the boot. He will be given another crack at the Premiership, at least till the October / November period. If he falls short on recruitment again we will once again be only left with a January window in which to get out of jail. Another opportunity to establish ourselves as a top flight club and develop will likely be lost I would prefer to get someone in now to see what else could be achieved with this set of players and so to take stock ahead of the summer transfer window We need a manager who picks a side on form and ability, who can motivate and adapt, who sees performances that are sub standard for what they are and who is prepared to alter the coaching set up if it is failing week on week. We need a manager who has an alternative solution to working harder. Our manager looks like a rabbit caught in the headlights. He is incapable of obtaining sustained improvement. At this level he is comfortably a failure. I think it can be possible to go down with some pride but even that is being whittled away as the season progresses. Thanks for the memories Nigel. I don't doubt that you've done your best, that your decisions have been honest and that you've worked hard but it is no longer in the club's interests for you to continue to steer the ship Pearson out This season has been a real disappointment and it's such a shame. I'm sure (hope) we all wanted the team and Pearson to succeed. Ultimately, they've both let us down. However, I have to agree entirely with Mike. Pearson is responsible for the good times, and the bad times. I don't think any of us expected this season to be easy, but I don't think any of us expected us to fail this badly. Pearson has had a few goes at changing the tactics etc. and he's had the January window to make the appropriate changes. He's failed. I won't be booing and chanting for his sacking at games. If he was to be sacked, it would hurt, but I can't help but feel we'd have a better chance of staying up (and failing that, a better chance of coming back up.) I'm forever grateful for what he's done for the club. But, reluctantly, I think it's time to roll the dice and move on.
Eastwellfox Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 We have just lost to the 2nd worst side in the prem. The time is probably right for Pearson to go after today. It now feels quite distressing at what is going on and we dont seem to be going anywhere. So what the hell lets get a change now.
AKCJ Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 He didn't look like he knew what he was doing when he was stood on the touch line for 45 minutes with his arms crossed. Mahrez & Schluup were great today weren't they, could definitely see why they were kept on instead of freshening things up. Taking two of our most creative players off when we're chasing a game wouldn't have gone down well at all. I'm not defending his tactics today, but you don't seriously think you would have done a better job do you?
dogadug Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Everyone knows we were bad today and Pearson made some bad tactical moves but at the end of the day it's looking pretty likely he'll be given till the end of the season, so there is absolutely no logic in any negative chants aimed towards Pearson, which will have a knock-on effect on the team and our small chance of staying up.
Legend_in_blue Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 but that's really not the point though, is it? no matter what you think about his tactics etc when you are there supporting your team you're meant to, you know, support your team. i can even see why some people would let their feelings be known by booing after the game, but literally chanting the opposite of support during the game is doing what, exactly? i doubt it's going to inspire any of this side to mount a comeback. I think that's precisely why they're doing it. People have lost the belief in him to be able to turn it around. Instead of getting behind the team, they take their frustrations out on the man in charge. I can understand this point of view. It's the easy way out and people have the right to be annoyed at such an abject performance.
Soar Fox Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Taking two of our most creative players off when we're chasing a game wouldn't have gone down well at all. I'm not defending his tactics today, but you don't seriously think you would have done a better job do you? I certainly wouldn't play 5 at the back against a team that has scored 14 goals all season. I also wouldn't play my mate in goal.
Buzzell Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 I am one of Pearson's biggest fans but today really pissed me off. His decision making was horrendous. Hope he can sort this mess out but it's looking very, very doubtful by the day.
NewburyFox Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Taking two of our most creative players off when we're chasing a game wouldn't have gone down well at all. I'm not defending his tactics today, but you don't seriously think you would have done a better job do you? Schlupp was having a shocker, and Albrighton was raring to go against his old club. What happened? Schlupp played 90 minutes and Albrighton ran up and down that touchline for the entire second half without coming on. It was terrible management.
BMR Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 I think playing 5 at the back against a free scoring Aston Villa team worked wonders. The attacking threat they pose we did well to restrict them to only 2 goals. Not many teams have done that this season. you are right, as soon as we switched to 4 at the back we conceded.
Soar Fox Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 you are right, as soon as we switched to 4 at the back we conceded. If your right back stands off the man giving him time to place his shot you will concede now and again. If anybody thinks we conceded due to going 4 at the back clearly knows f**k all. We conceded due to our right back giving him a free shot, and the pensioner not being able to catch a cold in goal.
Dan Posted 15 February 2015 Posted 15 February 2015 Having sat on the fence for a long time today's team selection, tactics and inability to even do the basics to any sort of acceptable standard is the final straw for me We will not stay up The manager is responsible for his personnel, for tactics, formation, training and motivation. He is responsible for success and responsible for failure. Pearson and many in this team are damaged goods by virtue of their experience this season. They will not be the same players and manager that got us promoted. I haven't seen anything to suggest that next season we will finish above whichever two sides come down with us or a number of the improving championship sides who are now building and developing as we had done I haven't seen anything to suggest that Pearson has learnt and adapted as the season has progressed. We are getting worse rather than better. If we keep Pearson and he gets us up it is unlikely that he would then be given the boot. He will be given another crack at the Premiership, at least till the October / November period. If he falls short on recruitment again we will once again be only left with a January window in which to get out of jail. Another opportunity to establish ourselves as a top flight club and develop will likely be lost I would prefer to get someone in now to see what else could be achieved with this set of players and so to take stock ahead of the summer transfer window We need a manager who picks a side on form and ability, who can motivate and adapt, who sees performances that are sub standard for what they are and who is prepared to alter the coaching set up if it is failing week on week. We need a manager who has an alternative solution to working harder. Our manager looks like a rabbit caught in the headlights. He is incapable of obtaining sustained improvement. At this level he is comfortably a failure. I think it can be possible to go down with some pride but even that is being whittled away as the season progresses. Thanks for the memories Nigel. I don't doubt that you've done your best, that your decisions have been honest and that you've worked hard but it is no longer in the club's interests for you to continue to steer the ship Pearson out Can't disagree with a word of that. Refreshing in a way to read a very fair and justified post whilst calling for him to go.
NFPOUT Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 Losing Percentages in the Top Flight from 3 very very bad managers Peter Taylor 50% Frank McClintock 57% Nigel Pearson 64% Are we still trusting in Nigel ?
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 Losing Percentages in the Top Flight from 3 very very bad managers Peter Taylor 50% Frank McClintock 57% Nigel Pearson 64% Are we still trusting in Nigel ? Oh don't worry the NP worshippers will still come out with some guff trust me
shailen Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 the amount of times Ive seen topics for his resignation are endless. When we went on a four game losing streak in 09/10 The 2/18 wins in 12/13 This season after 9 points from 60. Those who believed that he should be sacked on the first two instances were proved wrong. This time may be different becuase of the league we are in, but continuity breeds success. A good manager will achieve things if hes given the chance.
NFPOUT Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 the amount of times Ive seen topics for his resignation are endless. When we went on a four game losing streak in 09/10 The 2/18 wins in 12/13 This season after 9 points from 60. Those who believed that he should be sacked on the first two instances were proved wrong. This time may be different becuase of the league we are in, but continuity breeds success. A good manager will achieve things if hes given the chance. "continuity breeds success" You're making them up now. "A good manager will achieve things if he's given the chance" He's been given far too many chances ffs, and he's far from being a good manager.
Maybes Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 "continuity breeds success" You're making them up now. "A good manager will achieve things if he's given the chance" He's been given far too many chances ffs, and he's far from being a good manager. Far from being a good manager? Granted this season he's come up short but does last season not count?
st albans fox Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 Taking two of our most creative players off when we're chasing a game wouldn't have gone down well at all. I'm not defending his tactics today, but you don't seriously think you would have done a better job do you? Actually, I think I would have yesterday. And I could name a few on here who probably would aswell. Maybe it isn't pearson responsible for the tactics. Whoever it is needs to be shown the door.
Bettsj2 Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 If your right back stands off the man giving him time to place his shot you will concede now and again. If anybody thinks we conceded due to going 4 at the back clearly knows f**k all. We conceded due to our right back giving him a free shot, and the pensioner not being able to catch a cold in goal. Hmmm. In regards to the first goal, that was Wasilewski's side of the back 3. When the Villa dude cut unside Simpson, Was would have been there snuffing him out so I can see it having some bearing on the first. The second Conrad Logan would have saved. Embarrasing.
Matt Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 TBF at the end of this season any player who didn't want to go would have no ambition in my eyes .. Very few of them would deserve to go imo. Unless they are an exceptional player I never get why clubs sign players of relegated clubs, they have been relegated for a reason and with the exception of 1 or 2 players, none of these players are anywhere near Premiership standard, far from it. Next season I want to keep these players because they are good Championship players, they got us promoted last season, well. I know it's not guarenteed or definetly going to happen next season, it doesn't work like that but they've done it before and I see no reason why they can't again, now, if we got promoted again I want these players gone, I want an overhaul, we've done that before and it's not worked, but these players are certainly not good enough for the Premiership the same thing would happen again, they are not of the standard.
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 the amount of times Ive seen topics for his resignation are endless. When we went on a four game losing streak in 09/10 The 2/18 wins in 12/13 This season after 9 points from 60. Those who believed that he should be sacked on the first two instances were proved wrong. This time may be different becuase of the league we are in, but continuity breeds success. A good manager will achieve things if hes given the chance. Relegation does not breed success, nor does it it do anything for 'stability' - an argument constantly trotted by those who seem oblivious to the possible consequences of the drop. In terms of continuity, you mean to continue regressing as our team has over the last 6 months, shrug our shoulders, while the Thais idly sit by and watch it happen?
Matt Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 Relegation does not breed success, nor does it it do anything for 'stability' - an argument constantly trotted by those who seem oblivious to the possible consequences of the drop. In terms of continuity, you mean to continue regressing as our team has over the last 6 months, shrug our shoulders, while the Thais idly sit by and watch it happen? I disagree, without the relegation to League One we wouldn't be where we are now. We had to take a step back to take a few steps forward. However this time I can't see relegation being a good thing or turning into a positive thing really, we will see but I cannot see it.
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