cjslcfc Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 17 points from 25 games. People are deluded if they think we can get another 18 to 20 points from 13 games. This season will be a massive missed opportunity, with the increased revenues to establish us in the prem, the pearsonites seem to think it will be easy to get promotion, lets not kid ourselves the better players will leave mahrez, james, cambiasso and kramaric etc etc plus some players that have been given a proper run they should have the proper ump . It's been a farce from last summer with an inept transfer policy, inept tactical know how from pearson, not getting rid of him before christmas was another poor niave decision from the thais. Fvcking hell. How many times have people said this? Has anyone actually said this? No one is saying it will be easy but people are saying that we have a better chance of doing it with Pearson at the helm. It will be easier with him in charge. No one is saying it's easy to get back up, just that planning ahead it seems a pretty decent idea to have someone leading us who has achieved promotion and 2 play offs with us in that division!!
MC Prussian Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 Don't some people take things literally My 'dark days' comment was relative to the success of last season. .hence the hero to zero comment and the unbelievable swing of opinion on Nigel after two bloody games. 'Dark days' in relation to what could have been, how everyone felt pre season and the adoration of the manager. Blimey...I wasn't comparing it to the days of Alan Maybury and dare I say the name..Lee Marshall! Get a grip peeps.... Nothing like a bit of superficial doom and gloom to lift the spirits, Colin, Eh?
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 Away games against decent opposition, yes, I'd agree ..... But not against the worst attack in the league - we're just wasting a man at the back and sacrificing one up front for that luxury of being defensively solid against a team that can't score!!! Whilst we didn't look like conceding in the first half - no team looks like conceding against Villa - They have gone 8 hours with one goal recently. We invited them to attack us and actually gave them the confidence to do so by sitting back ..... We should have been attacking them from the word go, making the most of their fragile confidence and lack of attacking guile. This is why NP needs to go .... he's far far too basic in his footballing tactics to ever cut it at this level. Totally agree with you 5Waller, and I'm pretty much on the same page as Hackneyfox also. We now KNOW Pearson is not up to the task. No more evidence is needed, so let's try to find someone with some pedigree or potential to improve us. It's like theses people think it's outrageous to suggest somebody else could possibly better our managers dismal 17pt performance acheived this season. Nobody can save us now, but let's make plans to move on and do better, not cling on to a proven failure at this level. That's just a lack of ambition in my book.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 This, well said Col There are some real keyboard freaks on this forum, take things way too literal oh the irony
the messenger Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 Fvcking hell. How many times have people said this? Has anyone actually said this? No one is saying it will be easy but people are saying that we have a better chance of doing it with Pearson at the helm. It will be easier with him in charge. No one is saying it's easy to get back up, just that planning ahead it seems a pretty decent idea to have someone leading us who has achieved promotion and 2 play offs with us in that division!!
the messenger Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 Just because he got us 2 promotions some people are prepared to give him a shot at getting us up again, pearson is tactically championship standard no way would i give him another chance but the thais knowing little about football i can bet will stick with him, what a depressing thought.
Guest MattP Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 Just because he got us 2 promotions some people are prepared to give him a shot at getting us up again, pearson is tactically championship standard no way would i give him another chance but the thais knowing little about football i can bet will stick with him, what a depressing thought. Yeah when the target is promotion the last person we need in charge is someone with a strong record of promotions. I get the feeling if we go down some people want a sacking for punishment rather than thinking what might actually be best for the football club and it's upcoming target.
Tom17LCFC Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 This, well said Col There are some real keyboard freaks on this forum, take things way too literal haha you're the worst for it chap!
cjslcfc Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 Yeah when the target is promotion the last person we need in charge is someone with a strong record of promotions. I get the feeling if we go down some people want a sacking for punishment rather than thinking what might actually be best for the football club and it's upcoming target. Exactly what I think. It's not "giving him another shot" at all. It's choosing one of the best candidates for the job of getting us out of the Championship. He is in that category and since he already knows the players, club etc... he is probably best placed to take us forward from that league.
65RosesFox Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 Yesterday was the turning point and possibly the tipping point for some fans who still wanted Pearson to remain as manager. I think now the percentage is getting closer to 50/50 for fans wanting him to stay and ones wanting him sacked. For me, I had no issue with him starting with the same formation and more or less same line up to arsenal, as it was a very impressive away performance at the emirates, and we played some great football and the movement off the ball was as good as it has been all season (not that it's hard to beat) However what annoyed me was the lack of substitutions, when we went 1-0 down it was screaming out for Albrighton to come on as both Schlupp and Mahrez were ineffective. Plus as it was a cup game, he may as well have thrown the kitchen sink at it and brought Vardy on and gone 4-3-3. Yes Vardy has been pretty awful more or less all season, but his last cameo appearance he made Speroni pull off two very good saves, but instead Pearson decided only one substition was suffice, something that still baffles me. After yesterday I am starting to lose my patients with his stubborness and picking the same players who keep making costly errors. He can regain my faith if he goes back to playing players on merit starting against Everton. Stick with 4-5-1 Get Hamer back in goal Drop Wes, and go with Was, Huth Upson in the middle De Laet for Simpson Albrighton to start Even if he only made two of those changes I'd be happy, if he makes none then thanks for everything Nigel but I think your time is up, your stubborness and loyalty to some players is getting embarassing.
Mike Oxlong Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 The logic that says we should keep him to get us up would indicate that we should sack him if he does so.
Raj Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 Yeah when the target is promotion the last person we need in charge is someone with a strong record of promotions. I get the feeling if we go down some people want a sacking for punishment rather than thinking what might actually be best for the football club and it's upcoming target. And the BIG question when he inevitably gets us back up is...Do we keep him to lead us into the Premier League again????
Matt Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 The logic that says we should keep him to get us up would indicate that we should sack him if he does so. That's the logic i'm using regards the players. Not sack, but offload them and rebuild (Risky strategy I know) should we get promoted again next season, because sure as damn it barr a few none of them are anywhere near Premiership quality.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 oh the irony haha you're the worst for it chap!
ollietonfox Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 Yesterday was the turning point and possibly the tipping point for some fans who still wanted Pearson to remain as manager........this I think now the percentage is getting closer to 50/50 for fans wanting him to stay and ones wanting him sacked. For me, I had no issue with him starting with the same formation and more or less same line up to arsenal, as it was a very impressive away performance at the emirates, and we played some great football and the movement off the ball was as good as it has been all season (not that it's hard to beat) However what annoyed me was the lack of substitutions, when we went 1-0 down it was screaming out for Albrighton to come on as both Schlupp and Mahrez were ineffective. Plus as it was a cup game, he may as well have thrown the kitchen sink at it and brought Vardy on and gone 4-3-3. Yes Vardy has been pretty awful more or less all season, but his last cameo appearance he made Speroni pull off two very good saves, but instead Pearson decided only one substition was suffice, something that still baffles me. After yesterday I am starting to lose my patients with his stubborness and picking the same players who keep making costly errors. He can regain my faith if he goes back to playing players on merit starting against Everton. Stick with 4-5-1 Get Hamer back in goal Drop Wes, and go with Was, Huth Upson in the middle De Laet for Simpson Albrighton to start Even if he only made two of those changes I'd be happy, if he makes none then thanks for everything Nigel but I think your time is up, your stubborness and loyalty to some players is getting embarassing.
Guest Col city fan Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 , I bet you're really upset by those two posts buddy?
hackneyfox Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 Yeah when the target is promotion the last person we need in charge is someone with a strong record of promotions. I get the feeling if we go down some people want a sacking for punishment rather than thinking what might actually be best for the football club and it's upcoming target. And if/when he gets us back up the last person we need is a someone with a strong record of Premier relegation???? I want him out because you don't reward failure.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 , I bet you're really upset by those two posts buddy?Oh yeah defo Col Just wish we would make a fight of staying up, going down with a whimper but some on this forum think that's a good season **** me I would hate to see a bad season
Steven Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 "Pollyanna principle" (along with the adjective "Pollyannaish" and the noun "Pollyannaism") came into the English language to describe someone who seems always to be able to find something to be "glad" about no matter what circumstances arise. It is sometimes used pejoratively, referring to someone whose optimism is excessive to the point of naïveté or refusing to accept the facts of an unfortunate situation.
Matt Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 "Pollyanna principle" (along with the adjective "Pollyannaish" and the noun "Pollyannaism") came into the English language to describe someone who seems always to be able to find something to be "glad" about no matter what circumstances arise. It is sometimes used pejoratively, referring to someone whose optimism is excessive to the point of naïveté or refusing to accept the facts of an unfortunate situation. A few people on here suffer from that aswell.
Guest MattP Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 And the BIG question when he inevitably gets us back up is...Do we keep him to lead us into the Premier League again???? I would completely understand if the owners went a different way after that happened.
Guest MattP Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 And if/when he gets us back up the last person we need is a someone with a strong record of Premier relegation???? I want him out because you don't reward failure. As I said I would understand then if they changed. I'm not bothered about punishing or rewarding failure, I want the decision what gives us the best chance of getting straight back into the premier league. Some people are considering getting rid of him if we go for managers who have never managed in the division that is madness. Pretty much every side who does well in that division these days has a manager who has experience in it.
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 Exactly what I think. It's not "giving him another shot" at all. It's choosing one of the best candidates for the job of getting us out of the Championship. He is in that category and since he already knows the players, club etc... he is probably best placed to take us forward from that league. Let's put it another way if Pearson had performed at another club, like he has for us this season - that is to say, took the club to rock bottom with a paltry, embarrassing 17pts, would you honestly have him at the top of your list thinking he is an ideal candidate to be our manager? Would Harry Redknapp be good enough for us. I wouldn't say so, but yet the man who did worse than Redknapp, worse than Alan Irvime let's say, who I would not have, IS the man for the job? Nonsensical
iancognito Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 17 points from 25 games. People are deluded if they think we can get another 18 to 20 points from 13 games. This season will be a massive missed opportunity, with the increased revenues to establish us in the prem, the pearsonites seem to think it will be easy to get promotion, lets not kid ourselves the better players will leave mahrez, james, cambiasso and kramaric etc etc plus some players that have been given a proper run they should have the proper ump . It's been a farce from last summer with an inept transfer policy, inept tactical know how from pearson, not getting rid of him before christmas was another poor niave decision from the thais. 1.) You lost it with Pearsonites. It's such an idiotic phrase, it's becoming boring. 2.) No one said it'd be easy but he's a manager who's never finished outside the top 6 in any league with us. That shows he has form in getting us out of the league. If Mahrez, James, Cambiasso etc leave we'll replace them just like we did when any other quality player left. The anti-Peasron brigade say that the club is bigger than any one person, yet bleat about players leaving. Players come and go the same as managers. 3.) Inept transfer policy? VERY few people said that Upson, Albrighton, Cambiasso and Ulloa were bad signings and MANY people said 3 or 4 players added to our supposed Invincibles would be enough. We can all jump into a phonebox and become Captain Hindsight, the fact is no-one saw this crap season coming. As for tactical know how, week-in-week-out fans on here shout out 101 different teams and formations. Virtually the same team that gave Arsenal a game struggled against Villa. It surprised Pearson as much as anyone. 4.) Another poor decision from the naive Thais? What other ones have they made? They've never vetoed a transfer, have never over-ruled or meddled in team affairs, have never once moaned about the whingeing gits in the stands or tried to change a single thing about the club but because YOU don't like the manager, they're naive? They haven't earned billions by being naive.
nettle Posted 16 February 2015 Posted 16 February 2015 1.) You lost it with Pearsonites. It's such an idiotic phrase, it's becoming boring. 2.) No one said it'd be easy but he's a manager who's never finished outside the top 6 in any league with us. That shows he has form in getting us out of the league. If Mahrez, James, Cambiasso etc leave we'll replace them just like we did when any other quality player left. The anti-Peasron brigade say that the club is bigger than any one person, yet bleat about players leaving. Players come and go the same as managers. 3.) Inept transfer policy? VERY few people said that Upson, Albrighton, Cambiasso and Ulloa were bad signings and MANY people said 3 or 4 players added to our supposed Invincibles would be enough. We can all jump into a phonebox and become Captain Hindsight, the fact is no-one saw this crap season coming. As for tactical know how, week-in-week-out fans on here shout out 101 different teams and formations. Virtually the same team that gave Arsenal a game struggled against Villa. It surprised Pearson as much as anyone. 4.) Another poor decision from the naive Thais? What other ones have they made? They've never vetoed a transfer, have never over-ruled or meddled in team affairs, have never once moaned about the whingeing gits in the stands or tried to change a single thing about the club but because YOU don't like the manager, they're naive? They haven't earned billions by being naive. Everything is fine and dandy then mate!
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