That has to be it. Pearson needs to go.

[Mark_w]

Part of me would love to see him go.

 

I dont know if someone new could keep us up or if we're just a lost cause.

 

Would be satisfying to see him held accountable for being out of his depth though.

 

The players are just as bad, they'd probably throw tantrums if Pearson got the boot. I'm sure it cant be fun for them losing every week but they are being paid handsomely for it while the fans have to go back to work and get laughed at for supporting such shíte.

 

I'm in the "better the devil you know" camp because although we are clearly not good enough and going down we are probably better off in the short term with stability because the shake up of a new manager and new players would likely see us struggle to survive even in the Championship.

 

He took over once when we were at our lowest point and once when we had wasted millions on average Championship players. He's given us a brilliant League One campaign, two exciting play-off campaigns with some great moments, a record breaking Championship campaign, one of the best games in our history against Manchester United, and you would enjoy seeing him sacked, I can understand people wanting it (though I think they're wrong), but you must be a ****ing ungrateful **** if you'd enjoy it.

[BigMicky]

All depends on his personality. I know which I'd go for.

Let's have it right.. If Pulis DID sign for us and pulled off a miracle, like him or not, he'd be written into LCFC folklore. You wouldn't get that piddling about with Newcastle or Swansea this season Micky.

I'd go the long term view, not potentially a 6 month job that could tarnish my reputation of miracle worker...

[Max Power]

Yeah he would. It's a challenge isn't it? A big one. Pay him a good salary with an excellent bonus if we avoided relegation..he'd join.

Why not wait for West Brom, Hull, QPR, Sunderland? All are likely to sack their manager at some point and  have better players and are closer to safety.

[BigMicky]

One Decent game doesn't deserve rewarding they're meant to be goal threats and never did look like scoring, You've got to admit that they both miss chances and look lost, we have much better firepower in our squad then those two..

And Vardy has?????? Strange that we created loads more chances with Nugent in the side today...

[Guest Col city fan]

I'd go the long term view, not potentially a 6 month job that could tarnish my reputation of miracle worker...

As I said mate, it's all about personalities. I relish a challenge myself.

[Esm253]

And Vardy has?????? Strange that we created loads more chances with Nugent in the side today...

I haven't  mentioned Vardy being the better option have I? he's looked lively as a sub Nugent and played alright today but he's a striker and never ever looked like scoring however, lets put it this way we need a new striker,(thats not the only position we need)

[BigMicky]

I haven't mentioned Vardy being the better option have I? he's looked lively as a sub Nugent and played alright today but he's a striker and never ever looked like scoring however, lets put it this way we need a new striker,(thats not the only position we need)

You are talking in riddles..

[dannythefox]

I thought we played well today but again we didn't put our chances away. I really don't know what the answer is, the team must be gutted hitting the woodwork twice and then the ball spinning on the line off Morgan and the penalty shout. For me if we don't beat hull it's over I just hope we keep nige now because he knows what it takes to get out the championship and if we keep most players which we should do if it happens we'll have a good chance getting back up.

[AyewJoking]

He took over once when we were at our lowest point and once when we had wasted millions on average Championship players. He's given us a brilliant League One campaign, two exciting play-off campaigns with some great moments, a record breaking Championship campaign, one of the best games in our history against Manchester United, and you would enjoy seeing him sacked, I can understand people wanting it (though I think they're wrong), but you must be a ****ing ungrateful **** if you'd enjoy it.

 

Hey Im only human  and its quite normal to wish misfortune on people who have hurt you.

 

If Pearson has given us those highs you mention then he has also given us the pittance of the last few months.

 

I did say at the end I think we're better off with him even though we are going down.

[inckley fox]

As I said mate, it's all about personalities. I relish a challenge myself.

 

Yes, but you either go for a job which looks destined for failure, or wait a few weeks for one which you've got a damn good chance of pulling off.

 

If we wanted Pulis, the time was back in early November, when there were excellent arguments for us to make our move. I sat on the Pearson side of the fence, we lost the next six games and now it looks like I was wrong. I can admit that, though some are still scrambling for reasons to suggest that they were right all along and Pearson has always been the right man for the job.

 

Now, however, the game is a different one. Whether we stay up or go down, eight contracts are up in the summer and other players are likely to leave (Mahrez, specifically), so this window could form part of a longer term overhaul of the squad. If we were to appoint a manager, like Pulis, who will strive for survival at all costs or quite possibly walk out in the summer, then we'd miss an opportunity to begin that restructuring now. We'd leave ourselves with a summer of inevitably frantic transfer activity, like in 2003, 2004, 2007 and 2011. I think Pearson might be the better man to begin that process now, so long as he keeps an eye on our longer term future.

 

Anybody looking for us to bring in experience now should really think twice if they're throwing their weight behind Pearson. Because I don't think he's very good at identifying and securing those types of targets.

 

This may look like me trying to find any old reason to justify keeping Pearson, And I can see my argument is full of holes. But I just think the other arguments are even more flawed.

[BigMicky]

Hey Im only human and its quite normal to wish misfortune on people who have hurt you.

If Pearson has given us those highs you mention then he has also given us the pittance of the last few months.

I did say at the end I think we're better off with him even though we are going down.

How has he hurt you? So years of the good times, 3 months of the bad times equates to get rid. Fantastic logic right there..

[AyewJoking]

How has he hurt you? So years of the good times, 3 months of the bad times equates to get rid. Fantastic logic right there..

 

Emotional hurt.  Let me make this clear I think he should stay but damn me to hell if part of me would love to see him  punished for not being up to the job.

[paulsherwood1]

Correct but be honest for this question and the same to many others saying the same.

Did you think after last season we would be so bad did you think a mid table would be about right?

Nige like most thought a couple and a few subs would do it.

Like a few others I got laughed at when saying he was wrong not buying in all first choice players.

Yes I also said Ulloa would not be good enough and yes hands up I got that wrong.

But as much as I thought Nige was wrong in the summer I still think he is our best bet going forward.

As I am sure he will not make the same mistakes again.

I think he's entirely culpable. Burnley barely changed their squad, yet they are at least competing. Our squad was far better than theirs but we are meekly giving up. Our managers chops and changes the team every week. We don't stick to a formation. We don't know our best eleven. We didn't sign any central defenders in the summer when it was obvious we were short! Surely the amazing Leicester City scouting team were not spending the last three years scouting players who couldn't hack the premier league? Knockaert, Wood, Vardy, James..... Why even sign them? Of course they are good enough, it's the tactics and coaching that is the issue.

[MC Prussian]

But it is Pearson's job to take responsibility for the results that his players secure, isn't it? If his job isn't to assemble a team capable of competing and prepare them / manage them in a way which picks up the required points, then I don't know what it is! Why do we even need a manager? How would you ever know which manager to employ if results were really down to his players?

 

So if we start saying that results are down to players and not managers, then how could you ever have come to rate Pearson so highly in the first place?

 

Or, are you arguing that results are down to a manager when they are going well, but not necessarily in some isolated cases when they are going not just badly, but incredibly badly? Because that's just silly.

 

And at no point have I indicated that the PL is not a quality league. Of course it is. But we didn't just finish 4 or 5 points about QPR last season, we were 22 points above them. For such a gap to be bridged indicates that their management, which is responsible for their results, has done a better job than ours in the meantime. Be it through keeping heads up, dealing in the market, coaching or game management. Whatever it is, they have done it.

 

The fact remains that, over the past six seasons, the bulk of newly promoted sides have stayed up. For us, and our ambitions, it was essential for us to do the same. To say that Pearson is doing a poor job when he's six points adrift is not underestimating the quality of the PL, it's simply pointing out that our manager is a long, long way off achieving what he's employed to achieve.

 

Those backing Pearson - among which I include myself - can't possibly try to argue that his job should be safe because the notion that managers take responsibility for their results is wrong. Neither can they argue that people who criticise Pearson are underestimating the scale of the challenge. Did anybody ever really 'estimate' that we'd have 10 points from our first 18 games? No, I didn't underestimate the PL at all. Maybe Pearson did, though, when he thought he could get away with a season with Konchesky at left back, or De Laet on the right, or only three wingers, two of which would be gone for an extended period in January, or when he was the only manager anywhere near the bottom of the table who decided to have a day off at Xmas, or when he said 'we only lost by a fine margin' every game for thirteen lousy results in a row, or when he let our players go out on the piss and have a day off after they won the fifth match of the season.

 

It's simple. The results are not good enough, and not by a massive margin. Our manager is responsible for our results. Therefore at the moment our manager is doing a bloody awful job.

Surely Pearson will take the responsibility for the results - what else do you expect a manager to do? Publicly put the blame on his players?

The manager is not the only person responsible for assembling the squad, but he usually gets most flak for the errors, as he is the one with most public exposure.

 

What makes you think it was essential to stay up at the first time of asking? Who says Pearson was employed to keep us in this division at all costs this season? Can you imagine the owners and the management having an additional plan in case of immediate relegation?

Ambition is fine, but you also need to mix it with realism and experience. Or else you can but fail.

 

Pearson has already acted in parts to stop the rot by replacing De Laet with Simpson. I'd do the same with Morgan, but we're lacking options at CB (Upson's coming back from injury - and I don't know about Moore).

 

And if you're not underestimating this league, why bother replying? If the results are indeed "not good enough, but not by a massive margin", how come Pearson is doing a "bloody awful job" then?

You could as well lean back, relax and watch it all unfold.

[BigMicky]

Emotional hurt. Let me make this clear I think he should stay but damn me to hell if part of me would love to see him punished for not being up to the job.

Haha that's proper weird!!

[paulsherwood1]

Emotional hurt. Let me make this clear I think he should stay but damn me to hell if part of me would love to see him punished for not being up to the job.

I think the three years of good times means nothing. It was in another league. Fact is we have 3 from 39, points in the PREMIER LEAGUE. Forget the championship! We are supposedly a premier league side!!! Pearson is supposed to be a premier league manager! He's not. Simple.

[BigMicky]

I think he's entirely culpable. Burnley barely changed their squad, yet they are at least competing. Our squad was far better than theirs but we are meekly giving up. Our managers chops and changes the team every week. We don't stick to a formation. We don't know our best eleven. We didn't sign any central defenders in the summer when it was obvious we were short! Surely the amazing Leicester City scouting team were not spending the last three years scouting players who couldn't hack the premier league? Knockaert, Wood, Vardy, James..... Why even sign them? Of course they are good enough, it's the tactics and coaching that is the issue.

You clearly don't go to games do you.. Lay of the champ manager for a bit. Why sign players in the championship if they are not good enough for the prem hahahahaha

[BigMicky]

I think the three years of good times means nothing. It was in another league. Fact is we have 3 from 39, points in the PREMIER LEAGUE. Forget the championship! We are supposedly a premier league side!!! Pearson is supposed to be a premier league manager! He's not. Simple.

Love your loyalty, its an admirable trait

[AyewJoking]

Haha that's proper weird!!

 

emotional hurt or wanting him to get sacked?

[inckley fox]

Surely Pearson will take the responsibility for the results - what else do you expect a manager to do? Publicly put the blame on his players?

The manager is not the only person responsible for assembling the squad, but he usually gets most flak for the errors, as he is the one with most public exposure.

 

What makes you think it was essential to stay up at the first time of asking? Who says Pearson was employed to keep us in this division at all costs this season? Can you imagine the owners and the management having an additional plan in case of immediate relegation?

Ambition is fine, but you also need to mix it with realism and experience. Or else you can but fail.

 

Pearson has already acted in parts to stop the rot by replacing De Laet with Simpson. I'd do the same with Morgan, but we're lacking options at CB (Upson's coming back from injury - and I don't know about Moore).

 

And if you're not underestimating this league, why bother replying? If the results are indeed "not good enough, but not by a massive margin", how come Pearson is doing a "bloody awful job" then?

You could as well lean back, relax and watch it all unfold.

 

You've misquoted me. I said 'not good enough, AND not by a massive margin'. And that is precisely why he's doing such a terrible job at the moment. I have no idea how you measure how good a manager is at his job if you do not think to judge him on his results.

 

And I refuse to believe for one moment that Pearson's task this season was anything other than to keep us in this division. To employ a manager to 'have a good stab at it, but don't panic too much if we go down' would surely be off the scale in terms of its lack of ambition. Even Blackpool made a better fist of it than that. 

[MC Prussian]

I think the three years of good times means nothing. It was in another league. Fact is we have 3 from 39, points in the PREMIER LEAGUE. Forget the championship! We are supposedly a premier league side!!! Pearson is supposed to be a premier league manager! He's not. Simple.

How is the amount of points connected to our status within the Football League?

Who says "Pearson is supposed to be a Premier League manager"? What defines a "Premier League manager" in your eyes - somebody who coaches at the highest level? What are your criteria?

 

We are indeed a Premier League side for now, the task is to remain one (depending on what time frame is realistic to you personally).

 

The three years with Pearson in the Championship mean nothing to you? How ungrateful can one be? It's the reason we come so far, isn't it!

[Jace]

I really wouldn't mind Lennon here, always thought he had the ability to manage players but has really impressed me by bringing Gudjohnsen to Bolton too 

[Arriba Los Zorros]

I think the three years of good times means nothing. It was in another league. Fact is we have 3 from 39, points in the PREMIER LEAGUE. Forget the championship! We are supposedly a premier league side!!! Pearson is supposed to be a premier league manager! He's not. Simple.

 

Brilliant. If we hadn't gone up last season but were near the top end of the Champ would you want him out? No, of course not. Amd since when do we have a right to be in the prem?

[paulsherwood1]

How is the amount of points connected to our status within the Football League?

Who says "Pearson is supposed to be a Premier League manager"? What defines a "Premier League manager" in your eyes - somebody who coaches at the highest level? What are your criteria?

We are indeed a Premier League side for now, the task is to remain one (depending on what time frame is realistic to you personally).

The three years with Pearson in the Championship mean nothing to you? How ungrateful can one be? It's the reason we come so far, isn't it!

The definition of a premier league manager is a manager managing a team in the premier league! Pearson clearly can't do it!

[tickler28]

Who ON EARTH saw LCFC as God's gift to the Premiership? that's ridiculous.

Most of us knew it would be difficult. But most of us, I suspect, didn't expect THIS.

You are posting some barmy stuff this season, my friend.

I think I'm turning into a Colite!! Talks the truth this chap...for real dough!!