That has to be it. Pearson needs to go.

[Mark_w]

There's also an inverted snobbery that if you don't accept being hopelessly outclassed week in week out and keep chanting Nige's name then you're not a fan!!!!

 

Ugh the only person who has done that in this thread has said exactly the opposite.

 

I'm perfectly willing to accept people who want Pearson out are Leicester City fans (apart from Ian Stringer), I just also think they're being really stupid. I think that's true of most people on either side of the argument, Col's pretty clearly demonstrated that your issue isn't exclusive to people who support Nigel.

[tickler28]

Big Nige seems to be a really quite a nice genuine bloke and a man of integrity.

In all seriousness this run must be really making him question his own abilities.

I'm actually hoping the owners put him out of his misery now .... It's just not going to get any better.

Watching all his interviews he cones out with all the clichés never says what he really thinks and seemed unbothered up until recently that we were getting easily turned over. He admits that he keeps his feet on the ground come rain or shine... I hope to god he's feeling it at the moment like the rest of us!!! Can't stand him seemingly not bothered when DIE HARD fans have their weekends ruined by results!!!

[iamafox]

There is no way we can afford to lose to Hull on Sunday, absolutely no way. I think we should have made the change after QPR and guess what, we have lost every single game since then.

 

I know we like to see the team play well but look at the real picture, we need to be winning games, especially against the likes of Palace, Burnley and Hull. What makes anybody think that good performances alone are going to keep us up when we just continue to lose one game after another?

[sylofox]

Same old same old you sound like a stuck record mate.

So most on here are saying good performance we should have won but for a mistake and missed chances.

Yes Nige may be wrong for the summer but it may have been TR's fault so Nige is left holding the baby.

 

Not all his fault if he handed in a list of players and the dof got none of his first choices.

 

But most today are saying happy with it other than the result that Nige can not affect if we were on top but did not score and let in soft goals.

 

But your comment say's all you want is Nige out whatever.

 

Infact you remind me of someone the guy in the airplane film when everyone sat next to him committed suicide.

 

 

Has anyone got a gallon of petrol a match razor blades heroine an electric fire and a bath full off water oh paracetamol and a bottle of vodka just in case.

[Mark_w]

A year and a half ago!

Things CAN change Mark! Just because a manager finally achieves at Championship level it don't automatically mean he'll do the same at Prem level. Or does it? Genuine question. Do you think it does?

 

I think, just as I did then, that he deserves more time so that we can see over a prolonged period of time whether he's up to it (if that means him taking us up again then so be it - because we're almost certainly down whatever). He got more time then and he adapted well, so I've seen no reason to change my view.

[5waller5]

Well you're on here aren't you? And I'm pretty sure the person who runs the forum is 'Pearson Out'. If you don't like people disagreeing with you then a forum probably isn't the place to be.

 

 

I don't mind disagreement ... I like the exchange of views ..... I just don't like the name calling that the Pearsonites are resorting to rather than any form of debate.

 

I understand that it's almost impossible to justify his position though.

[Manwell Pablo]

I only sing when he's playing.

 

Is he actually injured or have the Wigan back room staff just realized he's really not that good

[Mark_w]

I just don't like the name calling that the Pearsonites

 

Seriously?

[Corky]

Nope. This is PearsonTalk mate ..... Anything negative about the mighty Championship manager will not be tolerated.

 

We've got 2 points from 39 for goodness sake ..... That's 2 more than we should be allowed to expect. Some people have such delusions of grandeur!!!

 

Oh get over your paranoia, any of your posts been deleted? 

[tickler28]

Can someone please start a poll again for Pearson in / out I think we need to look again at the split in feeling

[5waller5]

Ugh the only person who has done that in this thread has said exactly the opposite.

 

I'm perfectly willing to accept people who want Pearson out are Leicester City fans (apart from Ian Stringer), I just also think they're being really stupid. I think that's true of most people on either side of the argument, Col's pretty clearly demonstrated that your issue isn't exclusive to people who support Nigel.

 

I have no idea what you mean??

[oxfordfox]

There is no way we can afford to lose to Hull on Sunday, absolutely no way. I think we should have made the change after QPR and guess what, we have lost every single game since then.

 

I know we like to see the team play well but look at the real picture, we need to be winning games, especially against the likes of Palace, Burnley and Hull. What makes anybody think that good performances alone are going to keep us up when we just continue to lose one game after another?

 

Yes, end of November was the moment. We have lost four games since then. Although Pearson fans have kept saying "If we just win a game". We haven't...

[Mark_w]

Is he actually injured or have the Wigan back room staff just realized he's really not that good

 

I think he's injured.

 

Maybe he's decided he doesn't want to work for the racists, I'd love him even more.

[5waller5]

Can someone please start a poll again for Pearson in / out I think we need to look again at the split in feeling

 

 

You start it .... I'm also interested (there must have been a swing since the last 6 points dropped)

Oh get over your paranoia, any of your posts been deleted? 

 

 

No idea .... I don't check!!!

[nettle]

So most on here are saying good performance we should have won but for a mistake and missed chances.

Yes Nige may be wrong for the summer but it may have been TR's fault so Nige is left holding the baby.

Not all his fault if he handed in a list of players and the dof got none of his first choices.

But most today are saying happy with it other than the result that Nige can not affect if we were on top but did not score and let in soft goals.

But your comment say's all you want is Nige out whatever.

Infact you remind me of someone the guy in the airplane film when everyone sat next to him committed suicide.

Has anyone got a gallon of petrol a match razor blades heroine an electric fire and a bath full off water oh paracetamol and a bottle of vodka just in case.

Sorry my mate Pearson in is that better!

[oxfordfox]

I think, just as I did then, that he deserves more time so that we can see over a prolonged period of time whether he's up to it (if that means him taking us up again then so be it - because we're almost certainly down whatever). He got more time then and he adapted well, so I've seen no reason to change my view.

 

A prolonged period of time? I guess you mean 10 years then.

[MC Prussian]

I don't know what you mean!

Maybe you want to take some extra courses.

[Mark_w]

I have no idea what you mean??

 

You're suggesting that your problem is with Leicester fans who are claiming that if you don't support Pearson you're not a fan. But it's the same on both sides, Col is saying exactly the same thing about people who want Pearson to stay. So I don't see why you're just targeting 'Pearsonites', rather than everyone who thinks they have the right to say who is or isn't a supporter.

[Mark_w]

A prolonged period of time? I guess you mean 10 years then.

 

Well it took him one extra year in the Championship, what makes you think he can't get us up again and handle things better next time? Or that he can't fix things in January? I think he deserves at the very least the full season.

 

As I've said before, I'd start to question if we're outside the top six of the Championship at the end of next season.

[MC Prussian]

I don't mind disagreement ... I like the exchange of views ..... I just don't like the name calling that the Pearsonites are resorting to rather than any form of debate.

 

I understand that it's almost impossible to justify his position though.

How so? As long as fans still need a scalp in the person of the manager every time one or two players let him down?

 

We've had bad spells under Pearson before and people were jumping the bandwagon, calling him all sorts of names.

The same people pretty quickly piped down once he had turned it around, only to crawl back from underneath the woodwork now.

 

Isn't it great to know you've always known that things can go wrong at a particular point in time?

[5waller5]

You're suggesting that your problem is with Leicester fans who are claiming that if you don't support Pearson you're not a fan. But it's the same on both sides, Col is saying exactly the same thing about people who want Pearson to stay. So I don't see why you're just targeting 'Pearsonites', rather than everyone who thinks they have the right to say who is or isn't a supporter.

 

 

Oh OK .... Fair point .....

 

I do think some people are almost acting as thought they have NP's best interests at heart rather than the football club though .... 2 points from 39 is not justifiable and a manager with that record needs to be sacked. I actually quite like the way he's handled himself during this run, and would be quite sorry to see him go ... but it's inevitable now. It's an untenable position.

[Webbo]

If what happens on the pitch isn't the managers fault why do we employ him?

[sylofox]

There would .... I'm astonished at how lowly our expectations are as a set of fans and what we've got used to tolerating.

 

There's also an inverted snobbery that if you don't accept being hopelessly outclassed week in week out and keep chanting Nige's name then you're not a fan!!!!

 

I'm finding it quite bizarre.

Like I am your thoughts.

No I am Not happy but going forward I would rather a manager that has the club at heart than one that spends 50m and we still go down.

With FFP the whole game is different.

 

But like a lot you can't see what some of our thinking is about.

Some are looking at the bigger picture and 50m and Pulis don't mean we will stay up.

It gives us no more chance than Nige does but he will have the squad on his side next season Pulis may not.

 

Snobbery in anyway about loosing grow up none of us want us to go down.

[inckley fox]

Personally, I'd rather have Nettle out.

I wish more people would start looking past the manager and acknowledge that you stand or fall as a collective.

Morgan with another clanger and this time, it was Hamer's game to come up with the decisive mistake.

 

But they are the same mistakes repeating themselves. And, as I've said plenty of times before, anything a player does - good or bad - forms a part of all-round performances. We can't start separating some individual errors from the rest of the game and saying 'everything else APART from this, this and this was fine'. After all, our goal and our best chances came from moments of individual brilliance. What if we discounted them?

 

So the fact that two different goalkeepers have made identical errors from set pieces, and that our whole team looks poor in defending and attacking set pieces, should really indicate a shortcoming in our preparation of set pieces, rather than purely a bunch of individuals who tend to make lots of errors in these situations in a fashion which is beyond their coaches' control.

 

As I see it, all of the reasons posters and pundits come up with for our form, and - within that - for our players failing individually to deliver, fall into four categories: Are our players good enough? Is our confidence shot? Is there a flaw in our coaching and match preparation? Are errors being made in our match-day management?

 

Is this the worst set of players in the division? In terms of ability, no. We were a much better side than QPR and Burnley last year, and neither moved mountains in the summer. Our individuals were better than theirs a few months ago and, while neither QPR nor Burnley are good PL teams, it's unlikely that they have suddenly become a lot better since. So it's not purely down to those individuals making errors because they aren't good enough. And even if it were, as some people keep reminding us, he signed them and he selects them.

 

Or maybe it's just because of confidence that we keep slipping up? In which case you look for your manager to draw on his inspirational qualities to lift you. That hasn't happened yet.

 

Is it our coaching that's to blame? In some cases, it looks like it is. So Pearson has to take his share of the blame.

 

Or is it our game management? Persisting with accident-prone players, being slow to make changes, playing counter-productive systems... maybe these can all contribute to an individual making awful errors? If so, that's the manager's job, again. And all of these accusations have been quite reasonably levelled at Pearson. Even today, there were some reasonable question marks over our staff's decision making in the game and the build-up to it.

 

Whatever the reason for us losing today, and ten of the twelve games before that, it will have a lot more to do with the manager - who takes responsibility for his players' performances - than it will to luck. You don't get unlucky every single game for an entire third of the season and, with that in mind, it would be daft to pass off today as a bit of raw fortune. We should, or Pearson should, stop bemoaning our bad luck and look instead for real, concrete reasons for these same silly mistakes repeating themselves.

[MC Prussian]

A prolonged period of time? I guess you mean 10 years then.

How do you get to ten years exactly?

 

You know that our abstinence from the top flight was down to many different reasons, right? Bad management, bad ownership, financial constraints, poor buying and selling policy, lack of fighting spirit, etc.

 

I don't understand how that has anything to do with Pearson, really.

But keep on wearing the simplistic goggles.