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That has to be it. Pearson needs to go.

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No we aren't. Derby had a 15 spell between 7th October and 19th January where they drew 2 and lost 13.

In that case Pearson should have a job for life here.

Posted

Wow! Is it his fault his team have 3 out of 39 points? Maybe not in your world? Will you be happy with relegation? Can this man do no wrong in your eyes?

As I thought you can't answer the question. To answer yours he is to blame for some of the results, I won't be happy and he does do wrong..

Posted

Unfortunately I can't see him winning league 1, The Championship and the Premier League League as a manager any longer unfortunately 

Posted

As I thought you can't answer the question. To answer yours he is to blame for some of the results, I won't be happy and he does do wrong..

It's not that I can't answer it, it was just a stupid question! Bottom line is we have different opinions. We still support the same team and no need for personal attacks.

Posted

Mark W and MC Prussian are the biggest Nigel Pearson fans in the world...probably posters on walls, mugs, place mats with his face on them.

I'm a Leicester City fan (100%) and when Pearson goes which he will eventually I will still support Leicester City.

Pay for a counsellor for the bloke I don't care just sack him please so we can have a glimmer of hope.

What makes anyone think IF we get promoted next season (big IF) that he'd get another shot in the Premier League....based on that what motivation would he even have to get us promoted...he is NOT a Leicester City fan

You only seem to come across as a "Leicester fan" when the club's misfortunes give you a platform to be negative about anything... in particular about the manager (whom you don't like at all - but as if your personal feelings would have any bearing on our fate this season).

 

I don't remember you posting here a lot when we were doing well last season.

 

Based on your argumentation, we'd also have to sack one, two, three players each game because they're not performing up to the standard you're expecting?

What difference does it make what football club football managers support outside of their working environment?

 

Speaking of which - what are your expectations for this club and in what time frame would you like us to achieve those goals?

Posted

Why I don't judge him by the results? Because I know results aren't solely the consequence of the manager's wrongdoing. That's overly simplistic. There's many more elements that lead up to it or cumulate in failure.

 

You may believe what you want to, but if the owners had been totally savvy of keeping us up at all costs this season, they'd have surely opened the transfer kitty for real and also appointed a more experienced PL manager in the summer.

 

Yeah, Blackpool amassed 39 points in 38 games in 2010/2011. And look where they are now.

 

You might not judge managers on results, but that's how every single board, pundit and history book judges a manager.

 

I'm still curious as to how you ever came to decide Pearson was a good manager if it wasn't for the massive upturn in results when he arrived in 2008. It can't have been the flair acquisitions, attractive football - nor even our dominance in the first third of the season, when we had to grind out results. 

 

And there is literally no successful club anywhere, at any level, which doesn't hire, keep and fire its manager based on results. 

 

And surely that's the whole point about Blackpool. They are a much, much smaller club than Leicester. Our ambition has to be greater than ours. We can apply this 'benefit of hindsight' logic to absolutely anything. Both Leicester and Southampton have played in the third tier in the past half dozen years. In 2008 they fired Pearson and we appointed him. Look where we are now. In 2011 Pearson quit Hull and came to Leicester. Look where we are now. It can go on forever.

 

His success up to now has been judged on his results. The ones that got us two promotions and two play-off finishes, and those results came from the group of players that he managed. This is what has made him a good manager. If we go down, and badly, then he should continue to be judged on his results. I can't see how anybody could seriously argue with this.

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The thing that genuinely does surprise me is not the boring, same old arguments that we get. It's actually the fact that we're still having them.

2 points from 39 people! The Thais are being incredibly patient.

Posted

It's not that I can't answer it, it was just a stupid question! Bottom line is we have different opinions. We still support the same team and no need for personal attacks.

Complete cop out. I want him gone blah blah blah I know better whine whine whine

Posted

The thing that genuinely does surprise me is not the boring, same old arguments that we get. It's actually the fact that we're still having them.

2 points from 39 people! The Thais are being incredibly patient.

I wonder if it's going to cost them too much to get rid?

Posted

I wonder if it's going to cost them too much to get rid?

 

I doubt it. He's on £1 million a year isn't he? On a three-year deal it'll be about £2.5 million to pay him off. They are going to need to spend big if they want signings so risks will have to be taken.

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You only seem to come across as a "Leicester fan" when the club's misfortunes give you a platform to be negative about anything... in particular about the manager (whom you don't like at all - but as if your personal feelings would have any bearing on our fate this season).

I don't remember you posting here a lot when we were doing well last season.

Based on your argumentation, we'd also have to sack one, two, three players each game because they're not performing up to the standard you're expecting?

What difference does it make what football club football managers support outside of their working environment?

Speaking of which - what are your expectations for this club and in what time frame would you like us to achieve those goals?

I run SW foxes (Facebook) which I posted on a lot last season and it took up all my time...check Facebook.

This season I have abandoned that page because I don't particularly want my non Leicester City supporting friends seeing endless reams of negative shite (justifiably so) plus I wanted a bigger audience for passionate opinions this I am here and whether you like it or not to stay...unlike Pearson (you may not enjoy that fact but sadly its reality)

Posted

That's what they said and I do hope they're keeping their word (they do strike me as honest in their intentions) - but they still have the option to sell to whomever they want to if they see it fit. After all, they own the club.

 

Why is it down to the manager to attract players? There are many reasons why somebody would in fact want to join a Premier League team, no matter where it is positioned in the table.

If you say you want a new manager with his own favourites, can you imagine a scenario where that would then in turn upset the dressing room and cause a rift within the team?

 

Which other available manager out there with pedigree has "pulling power"? Sensible suggestions, please.

 

I'd say that's a big part of being a manager ..... Attracting players .... And it's easier to attract them and say "i"m new here with big plans" than "We're bottom but I think I can turn it around".

 

In terms of the eternal question of "who better" .....

 

I think you do have the best possible argument for keeping NP with this one.

 

It's clear there aren't lots of managers around out of work and looking like a possible replacement ..... But Just like the owners pulling Sven out of the bag (who saw that coming) there will be plenty of managers apply for the job. I'm not actually suggesting we should sack without a replacement lined up .... What I am saying is that there will be plenty of interest in the background.

 

I think for us to accept what is currently happening just because the likes of me can't name a replacement is just daft ..... Koeman wasn't an obvious Saints candidate, but there won't be many wishing they'd kept Adkins!

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The thing that genuinely does surprise me is not the boring, same old arguments that we get. It's actually the fact that we're still having them.

2 points from 39 people! The Thais are being incredibly patient.

maybe they realise it's not even half time in the league yet. I remember our fans crowing about beating Watford 1-0 at home in the playoffs 2 years ago and look how that ended.
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Complete cop out. I want him gone blah blah blah I know better whine whine whine

 

My only problem with this debate is when I feel some people's opinions cannot possibly change, no matter what happens. Surely events have to dictate our opinion.

 

There are people who only surface when there are calls for the manager to go, because they have always wanted the manager to go, regardless of how successful we are.

 

Others always want him to stay, and never seem to acknowledge any glimmer of reason in the argument that he should go, regardless of how unsuccessful we are.

 

And it was the same with Pleat, Taylor, Levein, Holloway, Sven...

 

I want Pearson to stay. But I can see a lot of strength in the argument that he shouldn't, more still in the suggestion that he has to demonstrate that he can do much better at his job over coming weeks and months if his staying here is to represent any kind of long-term option for the club.

 

And there are people out there who haven't screamed for him, or O'Neill, or Sven, to leave in the past, but who decided about six weeks ago that the time was right for Pearson to go. As it stands, even though I didn't agree with them then and don't think he should leave now, it looks like those people could have been in the right.

 

But it's hard to debate anything when people's view of a manager is as entrenched as, say, an allegiance to a political party. Or, in some cases, perhaps, Leicester City.

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You might not judge managers on results, but that's how every single board, pundit and history book judges a manager.

 

I'm still curious as to how you ever came to decide Pearson was a good manager if it wasn't for the massive upturn in results when he arrived in 2008. It can't have been the flair acquisitions, attractive football - nor even our dominance in the first third of the season, when we had to grind out results. 

 

And there is literally no successful club anywhere, at any level, which doesn't hire, keep and fire its manager based on results. 

 

And surely that's the whole point about Blackpool. They are a much, much smaller club than Leicester. Our ambition has to be greater than ours. We can apply this 'benefit of hindsight' logic to absolutely anything. Both Leicester and Southampton have played in the third tier in the past half dozen years. In 2008 they fired Pearson and we appointed him. Look where we are now. In 2011 Pearson quit Hull and came to Leicester. Look where we are now. It can go on forever.

 

His success up to now has been judged on his results. The ones that got us two promotions and two play-off finishes, and those results came from the group of players that he managed. This is what has made him a good manager. If we go down, and badly, then he should continue to be judged on his results. I can't see how anybody could seriously argue with this.

All that drama. This plethora of pathos. Like I've said, if the board would really go after results, by logic Pearson should've been sacked a lot earlier, as early as this past summer.

I don't know how many pundits you listen to, but I've yet to see the majority of them giving a verdict on Pearson's success at this club so far. The Championship years have pretty much been covered, but they'll clearly wait until the end of the season at least in order to look at the bigger picture.

 

Hiring and firing on a constant basis may be the basis for short-term success, but it doesn't automatically rectify problems in the long run. Consistency and a solid financial basis are equally important. In the business world, you'll find equally as many examples for successful business models on either side. It's merely a matter of personal taste which one you opt for.

Posted

The thing that genuinely does surprise me is not the boring, same old arguments that we get. It's actually the fact that we're still having them.

2 points from 39 people! The Thais are being incredibly patient.

 

 I think the Thais may not have a clue what they are doing and this is costing us. If we had a board who who had acted about 5 or 6 games ago and got in a decent replacement we may still be in with a chance but their lack of action may see us go down with a whimper. Trouble is I don't think I trust them to get the right replacement in after the Sousa /Sven appointments.

 However good they may be financially for us they don't seem to know what it takes to take the club forward now we have got promoted. They have sat back for too long on this one I'm afraid.

Posted

My only problem with this debate is when I feel some people's opinions cannot possibly change, no matter what happens. Surely events have to dictate our opinion.

There are people who only surface when there are calls for the manager to go, because they have always wanted the manager to go, regardless of how successful we are.

Others always want him to stay, and never seem to acknowledge any glimmer of reason in the argument that he should go, regardless of how unsuccessful we are.

And it was the same with Pleat, Taylor, Levein, Holloway, Sven...

I want Pearson to stay. But I can see a lot of strength in the argument that he shouldn't, more still in the suggestion that he has to demonstrate that he can do much better at his job over coming weeks and months if his staying here is to represent any kind of long-term option for the club.

And there are people out there who haven't screamed for him, or O'Neill, or Sven, to leave in the past, but who decided about six weeks ago that the time was right for Pearson to go. As it stands, even though I didn't agree with them then and don't think he should leave now, it looks like those people could have been in the right.

But it's hard to debate anything when people's view of a manager is as entrenched as, say, an allegiance to a political party. Or, in some cases, perhaps, Leicester City.

This...other than the I want him to stay
Posted

How has he hurt you? So years of the good times, 3 months of the bad times equates to get rid. Fantastic logic right there..

 

 

Success = keep multi Million Pound job.

 

Failure  = Lose it.

Posted

To the two posts above, I asked for an explanation of how he was to blame which you can't give

 

Pearson has failed to plan for the Premier League. He has shown loyalty to a group of players who are not up to the job, he has failed to develop adequate tactical responses during the course of various games and he has lost his sense of self equilibrium.

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My only problem with this debate is when I feel some people's opinions cannot possibly change, no matter what happens. Surely events have to dictate our opinion.

There are people who only surface when there are calls for the manager to go, because they have always wanted the manager to go, regardless of how successful we are.

Others always want him to stay, and never seem to acknowledge any glimmer of reason in the argument that he should go, regardless of how unsuccessful we are.

And it was the same with Pleat, Taylor, Levein, Holloway, Sven...

I want Pearson to stay. But I can see a lot of strength in the argument that he shouldn't, more still in the suggestion that he has to demonstrate that he can do much better at his job over coming weeks and months if his staying here is to represent any kind of long-term option for the club.

And there are people out there who haven't screamed for him, or O'Neill, or Sven, to leave in the past, but who decided about six weeks ago that the time was right for Pearson to go. As it stands, even though I didn't agree with them then and don't think he should leave now, it looks like those people could have been in the right.

But it's hard to debate anything when people's view of a manager is as entrenched as, say, an allegiance to a political party. Or, in some cases, perhaps, Leicester City.

good points.

I agree about people ( like me ) re-surfacing. And I guess the reason is that ultimately all I care about is lcfc ( as you say ). As long as the manager is doing the job he is employed for then I'm happy. If I see my club going down the premiership pan so easily, then I shout out. So,

Your right! But a much more articulate way of saying it than some!

Posted

Success = keep multi Million Pound job.

Failure = Lose it.

Another futile point. I couldn't careless if he was paid £5 or £50 million. Why do you care? So has he failed yet or failing?

Posted

good points.

I agree about people ( like me ) re-surfacing. And I guess the reason is that ultimately all I care about is lcfc ( as you say ). As long as the manager is doing the job he is employed for then I'm happy. If I see my club going down the premiership pan so easily, then I shout out. So,

Your right! But a much more articulate way of saying it than some!

So you don't offer praise when the times are good? Only moan when bad, the worst kind of person...

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