Guest Col city fan Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Can't bring myself to call for him to go. Yesterday was a horrible game though as to me it just looked like he'd learned very little. When I said he should get the season, I wasn't joking. So he stays. He has however disappointed me a lot this year. I think that probably sums up how lots of us feel. I'm very disappointed with this season, FA cup aside
Raj Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Yep me too....very disappointed...knew it'd be hard but its just the fine margins week in week out.After 10years of watching some awful awful stuff,thought being in the best league in the World we'd all excel as a group...we haven't
roger the dodger Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 fresh start needed i.am afraid blind faith by some on here
Webbo Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Pearson's over 50, he's been in football for more than 2 thirds of his life, what can he learn from this season that he shouldn't already know?
Unabomber Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 What a post by MattP. Fully agree mate, and very glad to see that so many others see sense too.
Burmesefox Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Me too. Pearson stays at least til end of season but I'm disappointed with him. Still, if we win the fa cup and go down I'll be more than happy. I've said I don't think we'll win the fa cup in my lifetime but I'd be delighted to be wrong. That would be well worth relegation.
Grewks Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 The difference yesterday was simple, the experience of the two managers. Pardew made a change in personnel and system at half time, showing his experience...Pearson did nothing. We all seem to forget how relatively inexperienced Pearson is in football management....especially at this level.
Guest Col city fan Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 What a post by MattP. Fully agree mate, and very glad to see that so many others see sense too. Nah...I'm a City fan, not a Pearson fan. If he fails now for Leicester, that's what matters. To be fair, some of the patience of many on here, it would seem is quite amazing really. But if Pearson does take us straight back down, it will have been a highly disappointing end to the run of ten years out. The club must do what is best for Leicester City. If that's by keeping Pearson then so be it. But to blindly keep living on last year's past glory is folly. That's gone..and Pearson THIS season is fookin it right up I'm afraid.
Unabomber Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Nah...I'm a City fan, not a Pearson fan. If he fails now for Leicester, that's what matters. To be fair, some of the patience of many on here, it would seem is quite amazing really. But if Pearson does take us straight back down, it will have been a highly disappointing end to the run of ten years out. The club must do what is best for Leicester City. If that's by keeping Pearson then so be it. But to blindly keep living on last year's past glory is folly. That's gone..and Pearson THIS season is fookin it right up I'm afraid. Yeah I believe Pearson is what is best for Leicester City hence why I support him and the club.
Guest Col city fan Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Yeah I believe Pearson is what is best for Leicester City hence why I support him and the club. Even if we get relegated? Do you not believe this season could have been better than this? I'm pretty sure Palace fans (and probably West Brom fans) are far happier than they were before Christmas.
Unabomber Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Even if we get relegated? Do you not believe this season could have been better than this? I'm pretty sure Palace fans (and probably West Brom fans) are far happier than they were before Christmas. Yeah even if relegated, and of course the season could have gone better that goes without saying. I have seen enough seasons of shit and changing of managers to know that replacing Pearson is not the answer. The owners are not going to sack him so what is the point of gunning for that to happen. I look at the bigger picture not just this shitty season and potentially getting relegated.
iancognito Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 A few team selections this season have been surprising but if you look at any of the pre-match threads, people rarely pick the same team anyway and week after week it's "try 3-5-2" "try 4-3-3" etc etc. But I'd have Pearson here over most other managers - including the Pulis Messiah. People say about 10 years out of the top flight but forget that the first 5 of those were spent chopping and chnaging managers every 6 months and looking a lot like Forest do now. This guy came in, changed it all from top to bottom and the only period we've had where it went tits up since then was the Sousa / Eriksson laughing stock period. He's come back again, got rid of the big time Charlies and re-stabilised it all again. Quite why anyone wants to go back to the short-term chop & change is beyond me. Building a club and especially a top flight team takes time. And anyone quoting his "arrogant" attitude or interviews needs to remember that being a personality and giving sound-bites to the media is well down the list of requisites for a manager. Stick with him, if it carries on next season - presuming we go down - and the side aren't in contention then have a word with the ginger fella at Bolton.
cjslcfc Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 For all the don't worry we'll return stronger and wiser, the following stats are all taken from a Telegraph article Of the 89 sides relegated from the Premier League only 21 'bounced' back in the first season. Prior to this season 5 of those sides who bounced back went straight back down again If you extend that to a two season period then 30 of 89 sides 'bounced' back. If after two seasons your dont bounce back then statistically you're likely to finish 13th in your third season in the championship. In fact, according to the telegraph, after three seasons 12 relegated sides have won the Championship BUT 11 have also been relegated from the Championship. Right, this is not me saying "we will definitely bounce back up" but it's also important to think about Leicester's chances of coming back up from the Championship on an individual level, as well as what typically happens from a statistical point of view. Clearly, from our own experience of spending many years in the Championship, we know that teams that come down don't actually tend to do that well, as backed up by the stats from that article. I'm not going to research the various states of squads, managers, funds etc... of each individual club that has gone done so this is a bit of speculation. However, I can't imagine that many teams that have been relegated would have been in a situation like ours (should we be relegated). What I mean by that is pretty much the majority of our first team squad are on long contracts. I think this was almost an insurance policy on the part of the management team/owners in case we did get relegated. Most of those players formed the team that stormed the Championship and are indeed very good Championship players, which would put us in a strong position from a playing point of view. With our performances this season I can't see that many players leaving the club. Key players like Mahrez and Cambiasso, as well as prospects like Schlupp and Kramaric, may leave. That, however, still leaves us with a strong core of quality players at Championship level. Added to this rightly, or wrongly, I also don't see Pearson getting sacked should we be relegated. This leaves us with a manager who has very good experience of the league, has performed very well in that league and has experience of getting a team up. Some teams may have had this as well but what they are unlikely to have had is the stability of having a man in charge who already knows the club inside out, knows the players and has probably already highlighted areas which need improving. Now, stability isn't necessarily good and there may need to be a change of man in charge to reignite the players. Pearson has done this before with this same group of players, though, so I can't see confidence being as big an issue as it is with other relegated sides. What this means for us is that there is no real big issue with a transition period that may come with a new man who might want to overhaul the squad or a panic appointment (like Neil Adams, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer etc...) who doesn't have a clue what he's doing. That could be a big advantage for us relative to previous relegated sides. Finally, compared with previous years the money we get for even getting relegated from the PL is absolutely massive (£60m I think). This puts us at a huge advantage over most Championship clubs. If, according to reports, we have capped wages and been sensible in trying to keep these down then that also puts us in a strong position going into the Championship. Then, the parachute payments we get combined with the stability, core of players and manager we have could see us in a far greater position than most relegated teams have been in. This is all speculation but I'd say it forms a fairly solid argument that we could indeed bounce back. There is also the other side of the coin which says the whole squad will be demoralised, they know they will be replaced should we go up after failing last time, the owners may not be as patient, the Championship is getting more and more competitive etc... and I acknowledge that those are all very realistic. However, comparing what we have with what I think other relegated teams have had (more recently than anything from too far in the past), I'd say we would be in a very strong position if we got relegated. That's not me accepting relegation as anything but a failure, it's simply me looking at it from a wider viewpoint and thinking that it wouldn't be totally doom and gloom. We could most certainly be in the category of the 21 rather than the 68 who didn't immediately come back up.
Guest Col city fan Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Yeah even if relegated, and of course the season could have gone better that goes without saying. I have seen enough seasons of shit and changing of managers to know that replacing Pearson is not the answer. The owners are not going to sack him so what is the point of gunning for that to happen. I look at the bigger picture not just this shitty season and potentially getting relegated. You've swerved the argument mate. Changing Pearson might have been exactly what the club needed. Like Palace did, like West Brom did. For as many changes that don't work, there's changes that do. I think Nigel is living off previous glory days. There's no harm in that. But we are in the here and now. It could just be, you know, that Pearson is a good Championship level manager, but can't cut it in the Prem. I say again, for me the biggest concern is that he doesn't seem to be learning. We are WORSE now than we were early season. Not better.
Unabomber Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 What argument have I swerved col? You asked me a question and I answered it.
Guest Col city fan Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 What argument have I swerved col? You asked me a question and I answered it. Yeah fair enough bud... I was just making the point that consistency is a bit of a myth really.
Unabomber Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Yeah fair enough bud... I was just making the point that consistency is a bit of a myth really. Yeah but I have seen enough chopping and changing and enough of Pearson to come to the conclusion that I would rather we kept him whichever league we are in next season.
Dr The Singh Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 You've swerved the argument mate. Changing Pearson might have been exactly what the club needed. Like Palace did, like West Brom did. For as many changes that don't work, there's changes that do. I think Nigel is living off previous glory days. There's no harm in that. But we are in the here and now. It could just be, you know, that Pearson is a good Championship level manager, but can't cut it in the Prem. I say again, for me the biggest concern is that he doesn't seem to be learning. We are WORSE now than we were early season. Not better. Totally agree!! Just seen Pulis earn his beans today and shown his quality as a prem manager. His team started off all wrong and within 15 minutes made some crucial changes and was quick in the 2nd half to capatalise. Pearson is very similar to Dyche, non of the team have any vision or nouse, if there plan a works then great!!
ADK Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Totally agree!! Just seen Pulis earn his beans today and shown his quality as a prem manager. His team started off all wrong and within 15 minutes made some crucial changes and was quick in the 2nd half to capatalise. Pearson is very similar to Dyche, non of the team have any vision or nouse, if there plan a works then great!! Must have imagined us coming from 2-0 down to beat United and 2-0 down at Anfield to get a draw.
Unabomber Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Must have imagined us coming from 2-0 down to beat United and 2-0 down at Anfield to get a draw. Some fans have short/selective memories unfortunately.
fleckneymike Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Some fans have short/selective memories unfortunately. Indeed they do. They convenientyly forget the 9 points from 19 games we've picked up since coming back from 0-2 against Utd.
steflcfc Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 I feel, with how the team started those first 5 games or so we looked so energetic and like we had the hunger to really fight for every point, But these last couple of months, the chopping and changing of the defence, midfield and attack is not having a good effect on the team, the players are not able to 100% get to know each others game, like the team was in the Championship they knew a bit more about each others game as the team was settled. This is also effecting our composure on the ball when we are trying to put a few passes together and retain possession for a period of time, I feel this is one of our main weaknesses in this league. I know he (Pearson) have strengthened a little in some areas, now with these additions I think he still doesn't know his best formation or team to play with. You could look at Stoke for instance, their strength is aggression, crosses, set pieces and aiming for Crouch, the other players know this and know to look for his knockdowns etc and they stick to this whether they plan Chelsea or West brom. they know their Identity of style of football they play. We don't seem to know ours! Unfortunately, a few of the players in the Championship we thought we would step up quite frankly haven't. We cant afford to carry anyone in this league, and even playing with one player off form for a few weeks is the difference at the minute with drawing and losing. Once Huth comes in its a big call from Pearson to drop Morgan, but this needs to be done as on form Wes is better at the minute. Pearsons room for sentiment has to go out the window, whether they have the armband or not.
Unabomber Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Indeed they do. They convenientyly forget the 9 points from 19 games we've picked up since coming back from 0-2 against Utd. Yeah exactly.
dogadug Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 OP is in the top 10 most repped posts in foxestalk history
bovril Posted 8 February 2015 Posted 8 February 2015 Listen, it's fine margins. If we just increase the height and width of the goal by 2cm and give Kasper some of those giant hands like in the Supergrass video, we'll be fine. And it's worth remembering that Pearson kept Carlisle up in 1999, there's nobody I'd rather have in a division four relegation dogfight.
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