cc_star Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 There are STILL so many people calling for Cambiasso in a central midfield of 2. I don't get it, never have, we remain bottom. Pearson doesn't seem to have learnt this doesn't work very well. Neither, it seems, do the bulk of the forum. Yeah, but Cambiasso is god (If you ignore everything we've seen throughout the whole season)
dayday Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 We need to approach this as we did second half v Arsenal otherwise another shocking performance like Sunday we will be handed our arses on a plate and suffer our first heavy defeat of the season. Need a more positive formation drop calamity Morgan that I can't see him dropped by his buddy, put Hamer back in goal leave out Konch and rest Cambiasso cause he wasn't at his best Sunday ! A great performance can see us take a 0-1 turn up like we did sunday and I'd be expecting a 5-0 spanking at least !! Hamer RDL. Wasyl hutton upson Schlupp Albrighton Hammond Mahrez Kramaric Ulloa Hutton?, yeah he would be very popular on here.
Fox Ulike Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 There are STILL so many people calling for Cambiasso in a central midfield of 2. I don't get it, never have, we remain bottom. Pearson doesn't seem to have learnt this doesn't work very well. Neither, it seems, do the bulk of the forum. It’s strange. Pearson has clearly tried pretty much EVERY formation – apart from the one that everybody else plays! 451/4231. It’s pure stubbornness. Does he think that all the other Premiership managers playing 3 CMs are wrong? We’ve tried loads of games at 442 (and won none of them). He’s tried 4411 which has met with limited success. He’s tried 433 he’s tried 541. He’s tried a diamond. He’s tried an unfathomable formation away at Swansea. He’s tried a proper 451 only once (ie with 3 proper CMs and 2 proper wingers) away at Newcastle. It was still 0-0 when Pearson subbed his two wingers and brought Vardy and Nugent on for Albrighton and Schlupp to switch to a bizarrely attack-minded 433… We went on to lose to a late breakaway goal. What would we give now for 3 or 4 away 0-0 draws to add to our points total? The most frustrating thing about this season is that it didn’t need to be so bad. With just a tiny degree of self-criticism, Pearson could have seen that none of his odd formations were working and realised that he needed to do what everyone else was doing: 3 CMs, play cautiously, pick up a few draws along the way. Even at home to Burnley Pearson brings on an extra winger (Knockaert) and substitutes our key DM (Hammond) with us winning 2-1. We’ve won as many games as Sunderland, but sit 7 points behind them due to an inability to ‘close up’ games and accept draws on the road. Villa, QPR and Newcastle were games we easily could have got a point from. Add that to the points dropped at Burnley. Five points. The difference between us being adrift and in with a shout of avoiding the drop.
cc_star Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 It’s strange. Pearson has clearly tried pretty much EVERY formation – apart from the one that everybody else plays! 451/4231. It’s pure stubbornness. Does he think that all the other Premiership managers playing 3 CMs are wrong? We’ve tried loads of games at 442 (and won none of them). He’s tried 4411 which has met with limited success. He’s tried 433 he’s tried 541. He’s tried a diamond. He’s tried an unfathomable formation away at Swansea. He’s tried a proper 451 only once (ie with 3 proper CMs and 2 proper wingers) away at Newcastle. It was still 0-0 when Pearson subbed his two wingers and brought Vardy and Nugent on for Albrighton and Schlupp to switch to a bizarrely attack-minded 433… We went on to lose to a late breakaway goal. What would we give now for 3 or 4 away 0-0 draws to add to our points total? The most frustrating thing about this season is that it didn’t need to be so bad. With just a tiny degree of self-criticism, Pearson could have seen that none of his odd formations were working and realised that he needed to do what everyone else was doing: 3 CMs, play cautiously, pick up a few draws along the way. Even at home to Burnley Pearson brings on an extra winger (Knockaert) and substitutes our key DM (Hammond) with us winning 2-1. We’ve won as many games as Sunderland, but sit 7 points behind them due to an inability to ‘close up’ games and accept draws on the road. Villa, QPR and Newcastle were games we easily could have got a point from. Add that to the points dropped at Burnley. Five points. The difference between us being adrift and in with a shout of avoiding the drop. There is nothing wrong with an away 0-0 It's a hell of a lot better than "we're going to go there and try to win" but ultimately lose 2-1 every single fvcking week
Silverdaz Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 This isn't true. Last season we saw that Drinkwater could 'pick a pass'. This season, the stats are that Drinkwater has made more successful forward passes than any of our midfield. James and Drinkwater know each other's game. Instinctively they know where the other is. They are younger, fitter and more energetic. Cambiasso will have the odd good game. We've seen that. But I've felt most of the season that his ageing legs have proved detrimental to playing in EXACTLY the way you say we did last season...getting forward quickly, countering with pace. The thing that pisses me off mostly about Pearson this season is this: I retain the belief that we have a squad of players that can eventually get 17th. As a betting man, I've got a sizeable sum of money on it. But all this relying on Cambiasso, Morgan and now Schwarzer, I feel, is going to take this club down and render my bet null and void. Let's go for a change....Let's drop Morgan, get Schlupp at left back, give Drinkwater and James a chance to play together and get Hamer back in the side. Let's NOT continue to make the same bloody errors we've been making nearly all season...relying on a 34 yr old in a midfield 2, relying on Morgan however badly he's performing and not playing Albrighton as a wide man. It's time for a change.. It could be that this is just what this side requires. I fear however, that stubborn ol Nigel will keep on doing the same bloody thing until it's basically impossible to stay up. You would move one of our best players to left back, you would lose Schlupps speed and direct running if you moved him to left back. Plus Mahrez andSchlupp have been our two best wingers this season so why change them
nickelbyfox Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 Hamer or Schwarzer Was----Huth----Upson De Laet ------------------------ Jeff Hammond- ----James Mahrez------ -----------------Kramaric Ulloa I like this formation (will never happen) as Everton play quite deep and possession football so wont be as open to the counter as Arsenal for example. Hammond sits in front the back four, the two wing backs bomb forward whenever and Kram can play all over the place, but officially cutting in off the left onto this right foot. Also means we have a few options off the bench - Camby, Albrighton, Nuge, Vardy etc.
cc_star Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 You would move one of our best players to left back, you would lose Schlupps speed and direct running if you moved him to left back. Plus Mahrez andSchlupp have been our two best wingers this season so why change them Not totally true, fullback or especially wingbacks in a 5 get forward a lot, can be a lot more dangerous too because the opposition winger has to track back & we all know that doesn't always happen Running with the ball rather than Konchesky's lofted hoofs as soon as he crosses the halfway line would provide us with far more options, especially with Kram's movement upfront
queensguardfox Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 if we win, we are right back in it again (if results go are way). Ive got a feeling with huth back we will keep a clean sheet. NP may start hamer but with the pressure starting tobuild on survival would you rather have the noob or the seasoned Vet.
Guest Col city fan Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 Not totally true, fullback or especially wingbacks in a 5 get forward a lot, can be a lot more dangerous too because the opposition winger has to track back & we all know that doesn't always happen Running with the ball rather than Konchesky's lofted hoofs as soon as he crosses the halfway line would provide us with far more options, especially with Kram's movement upfront Exactly why I'd play Schlupp at left back.
Stevosevic Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 if we win, we are right back in it again (if results go are way). Ive got a feeling with huth back we will keep a clean sheet. NP may start hamer but with the pressure starting tobuild on survival would you rather have the noob or the seasoned Vet. That's been said for about 4 months now.
cc_star Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 if we win, we are right back in it again (if results go are way). Ive got a feeling with huth back we will keep a clean sheet. NP may start hamer but with the pressure starting tobuild on survival would you rather have the noob or the seasoned Vet who gives away a goal a game Corrected that for you
Silverdaz Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 Exactly why I'd play Schlupp at left back. Problem is Everton best weapons are there attacking full backs in Coleman and Baines so we need to double up on both of them which we can do in a 5-4-1 formation
dayday Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 Problem is Everton best weapons are there attacking full backs in Coleman and Baines so we need to double up on both of them which we can do in a 5-4-1 formation Thats why you go like for like,they wont be bombing on anywhere near so much if we play Schlupp and De Leat
Silverdaz Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 if we win, we are right back in it again (if results go are way). Ive got a feeling with huth back we will keep a clean sheet. NP may start hamer but with the pressure starting tobuild on survival would you rather have the noob or the seasoned Vet. Got to be the seasoned vet everytime, every one is wanting Hamer in goal but he has no experience of the top flight and being involved in a dog fight wheras the aussie has, yes he has made mistakes but I feel much more comfortable with him in goal than I do hamer
cc_star Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 Thats why you go like for like,they wont be bombing on anywhere near so much if we play Schlupp and De Leat Defensive responsibilities of our attacking widemen (Mahrez +1) is key, only have to look at the damage Baines caused in the season opener to see that
shailen Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 Thats why you go like for like,they wont be bombing on anywhere near so much if we play Schlupp and De Leat I agree with this, we need to push both Baines and Coleman back as much as possible. They can produce some real quality balls and are Evertons main threat. We cannot invite them onto us, we need to push them back, because defensively Everton aren't the best team.
Fox Ulike Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 Got to be the seasoned vet everytime, every one is wanting Hamer in goal but he has no experience of the top flight and being involved in a dog fight wheras the aussie has, yes he has made mistakes but I feel much more comfortable with him in goal than I do hamer Apart from his 4 clean sheets in 9 games, and the fact that he’s only conceded 1 goal from open play in his last 5 appearances for us. Plus, he hasn’t yet fallen over and bobbled the ball into his own net like the ‘seasoned vet’. You can be too ‘seasoned’ you know…
queensguardfox Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 Apart from his 4 clean sheets in 9 games, and the fact that he’s only conceded 1 goal from open play in his last 5 appearances for us. Plus, he hasn’t yet fallen over and bobbled the ball into his own net like the ‘seasoned vet’. You can be too ‘seasoned’ you know… Will Kasper be Back before the season ends??? it isn't too far away now!
DanTheFox07 Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 The only proof we all need to see that Pearson doesn't care is if he pick's Morgan again! time after time this guy is costing us!
cc_star Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 Apart from his 4 clean sheets in 9 games, and the fact that he’s only conceded 1 goal from open play in his last 5 appearances for us. Plus, he hasn’t yet fallen over and bobbled the ball into his own net like the ‘seasoned vet’. You can be too ‘seasoned’ you know… Spot on It's obvious to everyone who should be there
walkerleeds Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 The only proof we all need to see that Pearson doesn't care is if he pick's Morgan again! time after time this guy is costing us! As soon as the players give up that's when we know the manager doesn't care. Until then, this is a ridiculous accusation.
kingcarr21 Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 Wouldnt b too bothered to see Hamer back in goal. His only real problem so far was his kicking against Stoke. I do think 5 at the back is a must against Everton especially at Goodison. Hamer De Laet Was Huth Upson Schluup Albrighton Cambiasso James Mahrez Kramaric Morgan really needs a break. He just isnt cutting it in the Prem. Kramaric with 2 goals in 2 games deserves to keep his place. More pace with Schluup and De Laet to counter Baines/Coleman. Finally give Albrighton a chance that i think he fully deserves. I wouldnt mind seeing Knockaert on the left either but think Mahrez overall has been really good for us. Not sure what Albrighton is like on the left but they can interchange.
DanTheFox07 Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 As soon as the players give up that's when we know the manager doesn't care. Until then, this is a ridiculous accusation. Player's didn't seem to put up much of a fight second half against a bang Average Villa team!
Mickyblueeyes Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 If we are to do the unthinkable something special needs to happen here. Simply for a confidence boost and to maintain a belief we can actually do it. We do not play well and never have under Pearson when we sit back and "play safe". Take risks, 12 games I do not care if we go down 3/4 or more I just want to see something positive. Any more games like Villa we might as well forfeit the season as it's boring and frustrating to watch. Go down, fine. However, go down, fighting, please! Team: Hamer De Laet Upson Huth Schlupp The defence has pace and experience. With Huth and Upson you know what you are going to get and there experience would be invaluable at this stage. I know Pearson backs his players and more so his captain. Which is comendable. However, for the good of his captain he needs to take him out of the firing line. Wes is not a bad player he is simply desperately short of confidence. Big players have been dropped before and come back stronger for it. Rest him but give him that assurance that he is club captain his influence is needed and he needs to give up his place for the good of the team. Midfield: Cambiasso James Hammond Three players who like a tackle. Two of which can create. With two forward thinking full backs, the protection is there in Hammond. Frees up cambiasso to create and James to burst forward. Will also ensure we are not double teamed in the middle. Strikers/forwards: Mahrez Ulloa/Kramaric Albrighton With three in the middle, I do not want Albrighton or Mahrez being penned back too much. Give them freedom while still fulfilling their roles in the team. The man up top for me doesn't matter both Kramaric and Ulloa have shown in different ways that if you provide service they can finish. Albrighton and Mahrez have it in them to create chances and with Cambiasso and James there is enough creativity in the team to create. Subs: Scharwzer Morgan - experience on the bench given the sensitive nature of Upson's body. Ulloa/Kramaric Vardy Knockaert - come on, he's got something to prove give him the chance to rectify the wrongs. Drinkwater - can slip into either centre mids position.
walkerleeds Posted 18 February 2015 Posted 18 February 2015 Player's didn't seem to put up much of a fight second half against a bang Average Villa team! Agree, pathetic second half on Sunday. Thought we were comfortable in the first half after the first 10 minutes though. We can't claim NP just gave up at half time though, it's out of his control when the same players go out and don't get hold of the ball. Edit: Sorry, for the record Morgan MUST be dropped for Everton. Huth, Was and Upson should be the three at the back.
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