Honestly..who can defend Pearson now

[MC Prussian]

Patronising much? I seriously wouldnt keep digging yourself deeper.

Then please state our wage bill for last season and put it in relation to our average gate from 2013/2014 and maybe you'll see the light.

 

If you feel aggrieved or unhappy, may I instead recommend a punching bag and a pair of gloves?

[MC Prussian]

I'm not an idiot and don't you dare patronise me.

 

I pay a significant sum out of my spare money to watch my team, as do most of us.

 

The point remains. My money pays for bog roll or that dick of a centre back. It's all in the pot.

You realize you're doing that of your own free will? Nobody's forcing you. Absolutely nobody.

[Parafox]

What you have described in that sentence, funnily enough perfectly encapsulates you in this debate. The ignorance is quite obviously on your side of this fence. You fail to grasp anything I've said and resort to smart retorts such as "**** off" and 'grow up".

 

well, you maintain support for Pearson. I think I have a greater grasp of reality than you.

 

You need to re-read some of your posts

[GingerrrFox]

 

I was referring to the abuse managers receive from people within a crowd of several thousands on comparison to abuse a teacher receives from (roughly) two dozen teenagers or kids week in, week out. Your kids are supposed to learn something from you as a teacher - whereas fans certainly never have and probably never will learn something from a football manager. Different ballgame altogether.

 

Just as much as pupils at a private (or public) school don't buy the right to abuse the teaching staff (for repeated conduct they could be expelled for) it isn't acceptable for fans to curse at the manager or fans without accepting that at one point it could all backfire.

 

 

 The hypocrisy of football fans knows no bounds. This is an excellent point and one I agree with completely. 

[Donut]

Then please state our wage bill for last season and put it in relation to our average gate from 2013/2014 and maybe you'll see the light.

 

If you feel aggrieved or unhappy, may I instead recommend a punching bag and a pair of gloves?

 

The comment wasnt made about the wage bill.

 

The comment was made to get rid of your holier than thou attitude.

[MC Prussian]

The comment wasnt made about the wage bill.

 

The comment was made to get rid of your holier than thou attitude.

Then maybe you want to try again.

[inckley fox]

It's as if you don't read my posts on purpose, instead continuing harping on about a completely different topic! Not for the first time, I might add.

 

I was referring to the abuse managers receive from people within a crowd of several thousands on comparison to abuse a teacher receives from (roughly) two dozen teenagers or kids week in, week out. Your kids are supposed to learn something from you as a teacher - whereas fans certainly never have and probably never will learn something from a football manager. Different ballgame altogether.

 

Just as much as pupils at a private (or public) school don't buy the right to abuse the teaching staff (for repeated conduct they could be expelled for) it isn't acceptable for fans to curse at the manager or fans without accepting that at one point it could all backfire.

 

And please elaborate on your claim that most people categorize Pearson as an "(insert insult of your choice here)". I bet you can't back that up, as it's only part of your attempt at discrediting the manager and/or the club for that matter.

 

I also can't think of a many newspapers trying to wind him up. I've heard the RL story and today's post-match remark caught on mic.

 

A "public meltdown" to me is comportment on a much, much lower level with a lot more bad words exchanged and/or erratic behaviour involved.

For the majority this season, Pearson has managed to remain well-behaved. The "incidents" some fans are highlighting remain the exception to the rule.

If at all, the picture that you're painting is more a feeble attempt of a psychological profile created by an amateur.

 

I did back up my claim that most people outside of Leicestershire think Pearson is a joke, and elaborated on it. It seems you equate my criticism of Pearson with an attempt to 'discredit' the club. The two are entirely different things. His appalling performance in his job and his poor professional conduct (as a sample, try Googling 'Pearson swears' now and see how recent the latest story is) have done far more to discredit the club than any horrible things I might have to say about him.

 

As I've said a million times, on balance he's been a good manager. My memories of him will largely be fond. But to simply refuse to accept that he's doing a bad job right now, that we were wrong to want him to stay at the club earlier in the season when there were good alternatives available, or that his professional conduct has been very questionable, simply undermines everything else you say. And it's a shame, because you tend to make a great deal of sense.

 

But he's doing a bad job, and doesn't look like a man who is composed, in control, and coping with the pressure. His behaviour has been erratic, everyone knows that. His performance this season has been abysmal. There is still a valid argument that he should stay, and Pearson's supporters should focus on that argument rather than trying to defend the indefensible, or arguing that he should remain in charge no matter what, on some sort of unconditional basis.

[inckley fox]

 The hypocrisy of football fans knows no bounds. This is an excellent point and one I agree with completely. 

 

So now you're saying managers do have to deal with the public all the time, which is what he's saying and what you weren't saying?

[Parafox]

You realize you're doing that of your own free will? Nobody's forcing you. Absolutely nobody.

 

Your point being?...

 

Do you pay to go to games?

 

Do you have a point of view?

 

I;ve read your posts and yes , you do.

 

What's your beef with me?

[adam]

Im in the forces and speak to fans of other clubs. None of them are very kind to Pearson at all.

[GingerrrFox]

So now you're saying managers do have to deal with the public all the time, which is what he's saying and what you weren't saying?

 

When you can show me that Nigel Pearson has to sit down with members of the general public to discuss his role at Leicester City football club and why he makes certain decisions he makes similar to a teacher at parents evening then I will concur that he has to deal with the public in a professional capacity. As it is you can't and he doesn't so it makes your point null and void. A Premier League manager doesn't work with the general public.

[SecretPro]

Prussian and ginger on here being pretty unreasonable as usual. 

 

People that just can't hold their hands up and say 'I was wrong' - it is an ugly trait. How long will you guys go on defending Pearsons every move? Do you even care about the football or the club anymore? Serious question.

 

Prussian, your tactic of using language in a way to try and make yourself appear more intelligent than/more righteous than is a real bore and everybody on here knows it's just a ploy to hide the fact that you are wrong about Pearson and you are trying to deflect away from that fact rather than be a man and put your hands up.

 

Honestly, we went through the whole blind loyaly, Pearson ahead of the club phase over Christmas. You cant still be of that mindset? If so, you have real issues and i honestly wonder what your intentions are, other than trolling.

 

For somebody who appears, on the face of it, to be intelligent it seems to be taking a while for the penny to drop for you. Leicester are ****ed, and it is mostly down to Pearson. I expect some whinge along the lines of 'what did you expect from this season', 'we knew it wasn't going to be easy', 'we were expecting relegation', 'who would you replace Pearson with'. You love asking the questions but you can't offer a reasoned argument to any that are posed to you without resorting to manipulation of the question or answering the question with a question.

 

You are one of the most offensive people on here with your snobbery and holier than thou patronising downspeak.

 

Please, please, please just get a grip, take your head out of the sand, stop lieing to yourself, stop trying to 'prove a point'. It's neary always the staunch Pearson In crowed that cause the arguments on here or resort to the 'whitty' one liners or saracastic remarks on here whenever anyone poses a serious question.

 

I've not seen you reply to the extremely well thought out and more than reasonable post entitled 'Pearson out' posted today, is that because you can't disagree, or because you found your match in conveying language and merely can't form the words to develop yet another patronising yet irrelevant, irrational response?

 

Me, well I'll just result to basic insults. Seems to be good enough for Pearson, and as he can and 'should' be allowed to in a professional capacity (another well reasoned argument you have there) so, thanks for boring me to tears this season, you ****. Now please, **** off and die.

 The hypocrisy of football fans knows no bounds. This is an excellent point and one I agree with completely. 

 

You just going to post the same reply to everything? What a clever boy.

[cjslcfc]

It's neary always the staunch Pearson In crowed that cause the arguments on here or resort to the 'whitty' one liners or saracastic remarks on here whenever anyone poses a serious question.

 

 

You're kidding right?

[MC Prussian]

Your point being?...

 

Do you pay to go to games?

 

Do you have a point of view?

 

I;ve read your posts and yes , you do.

 

What's your beef with me?

I don't know, I don't actually have any - all I can say is that you're being exceptionally touchy tonight.

[GingerrrFox]

Prussian and ginger on here being pretty unreasonable as usual. 

 

People that just can't hold their hands up and say 'I was wrong' - it is an ugly trait. How long will you guys go on defending Pearsons every move? Do you even care about the football or the club anymore? Serious question.

 

Prussian, your tactic of using language in a way to try and make yourself appear more intelligent than/more righteous than is a real bore and everybody on here knows it's just a ploy to hide the fact that you are wrong about Pearson and you are trying to deflect away from that fact rather than be a man and put your hands up.

 

Honestly, we went through the whole blind loyaly, Pearson ahead of the club phase over Christmas. You cant still be of that mindset? If so, you have real issues and i honestly wonder what your intentions are, other than trolling.

 

For somebody who appears, on the face of it, to be intelligent it seems to be taking a while for the penny to drop for you. Leicester are ****ed, and it is mostly down to Pearson. I expect some whinge along the lines of 'what did you expect from this season', 'we knew it wasn't going to be easy', 'we were expecting relegation', 'who would you replace Pearson with'. You love asking the questions but you can't offer a reasoned argument to any that are posed to you without resorting to manipulation of the question or answering the question with a question.

 

You are one of the most offensive people on here with your snobbery and holier than thou patronising downspeak.

 

Please, please, please just get a grip, take your head out of the sand, stop lieing to yourself, stop trying to 'prove a point'. It's neary always the staunch Pearson In crowed that cause the arguments on here or resort to the 'whitty' one liners or saracastic remarks on here whenever anyone poses a serious question.

 

I've not seen you reply to the extremely well thought out and more than reasonable post entitled 'Pearson out' posted today, is that because you can't disagree, or because you found your match in conveying language and merely can't form the words to develop yet another patronising yet irrelevant, irrational response?

 

Me, well I'll just result to basic insults. Seems to be good enough for Pearson, and as he can and 'should' be allowed to in a professional capacity (another well reasoned argument you have there) so, thanks for boring me to tears this season, you ****. Now please, **** off and die.

 

You just going to post the same reply to everything? What a clever boy.

 

I have no qualms with people that demand that Nigel Pearson be sacked for the under performance of the team this season. I feel he has made plenty of mistakes this season in regarding team selection and tactics. However what I do not agree with is people trying to manipulate scenarios that have occurred off the field to paint Nigel as some sort of raving lunatic. 

 

The incident with the fan was a case of it takes two to tango.

The incident with James McArthur was attempted to be blown out of proportion by the media, McArthur himself backed Nigel and the FA nor Premier League charged him with misconduct.

The incident with Gary Lineker was a snide little dig about Gary "allegedly" not paying the correct amount of tax, said after Gary had snide remarks of his own.

 

Now this "incident" which is a nothing remark about a journalist lying to Nigel to attempt to cause friction between Steve Bruce and Nigel himself. 

 

All blown massively out of proportion and also being used as ammunition by football fans who 9/10 would do similar themselves. 

[SecretPro]

I have no qualms with people that demand that Nigel Pearson be sacked for the under performance of the team this season. I feel he has made plenty of mistakes this season in regarding team selection and tactics. However what I do not agree with is people trying to manipulate scenarios that have occurred off the field to paint Nigel as some sort of raving lunatic. 

 

The incident with the fan was a case of it takes two to tango.

The incident with James McArthur was attempted to be blown out of proportion by the media, McArthur himself backed Nigel and the FA nor Premier League charged him with misconduct.

The incident with Gary Lineker was a snide little dig about Gary "allegedly" not paying the correct amount of tax, said after Gary had snide remarks of his own.

 

Now this "incident" which is a nothing remark about a journalist lying to Nigel to attempt to cause friction between Steve Bruce and Nigel himself. 

 

All blown massively out of proportion and also being used as ammunition by football fans who 9/10 would do similar themselves. 

 

Well at least you are not deluded like Prussian then.

[MC Prussian]

Prussian and ginger on here being pretty unreasonable as usual. 

 

People that just can't hold their hands up and say 'I was wrong' - it is an ugly trait. How long will you guys go on defending Pearsons every move? Do you even care about the football or the club anymore? Serious question.

 

Prussian, your tactic of using language in a way to try and make yourself appear more intelligent than/more righteous than is a real bore and everybody on here knows it's just a ploy to hide the fact that you are wrong about Pearson and you are trying to deflect away from that fact rather than be a man and put your hands up.

 

Honestly, we went through the whole blind loyaly, Pearson ahead of the club phase over Christmas. You cant still be of that mindset? If so, you have real issues and i honestly wonder what your intentions are, other than trolling.

 

For somebody who appears, on the face of it, to be intelligent it seems to be taking a while for the penny to drop for you. Leicester are ****ed, and it is mostly down to Pearson. I expect some whinge along the lines of 'what did you expect from this season', 'we knew it wasn't going to be easy', 'we were expecting relegation', 'who would you replace Pearson with'. You love asking the questions but you can't offer a reasoned argument to any that are posed to you without resorting to manipulation of the question or answering the question with a question.

 

You are one of the most offensive people on here with your snobbery and holier than thou patronising downspeak.

 

Please, please, please just get a grip, take your head out of the sand, stop lieing to yourself, stop trying to 'prove a point'. It's neary always the staunch Pearson In crowed that cause the arguments on here or resort to the 'whitty' one liners or saracastic remarks on here whenever anyone poses a serious question.

 

I've not seen you reply to the extremely well thought out and more than reasonable post entitled 'Pearson out' posted today, is that because you can't disagree, or because you found your match in conveying language and merely can't form the words to develop yet another patronising yet irrelevant, irrational response?

 

Me, well I'll just result to basic insults. Seems to be good enough for Pearson, and as he can and 'should' be allowed to in a professional capacity (another well reasoned argument you have there) so, thanks for boring me to tears this season, you ****. Now please, **** off and die.

 

You just going to post the same reply to everything? What a clever boy.

If you'd read my output on here more often, you'd have actually come to the conclusion long ago that I slate and praise the manager as I see fit. Just as much as I praise and slate players and just as much as I love a good, well-put and eloquently put argument on a football messageboard.

 

I use language because I love using languages.

I have done so for ages and will hopefully continue doing so. I have been on here way before Pearson came along and I have been a Leicester fan for years before that. So much for your "Pearson love" theory.

 

Leicester aren't "****ed" and if they were, it certainly wouldn't be because of the manager alone.

 

I applaud your attempt at going in more of an essay-like direction, but sadly, it's mostly wrapping without any tangible content:

 

 

 

thanks for boring me to tears this season, you ****. Now please, **** off and die.

Thank you for proving my point.

[cjslcfc]

I have no qualms with people that demand that Nigel Pearson be sacked for the under performance of the team this season. I feel he has made plenty of mistakes this season in regarding team selection and tactics. However what I do not agree with is people trying to manipulate scenarios that have occurred off the field to paint Nigel as some sort of raving lunatic. 

 

The incident with the fan was a case of it takes two to tango.

The incident with James McArthur was attempted to be blown out of proportion by the media, McArthur himself backed Nigel and the FA nor Premier League charged him with misconduct.

The incident with Gary Lineker was a snide little dig about Gary "allegedly" not paying the correct amount of tax, said after Gary had snide remarks of his own.

 

Now this "incident" which is a nothing remark about a journalist lying to Nigel to attempt to cause friction between Steve Bruce and Nigel himself. 

 

All blown massively out of proportion and also being used as ammunition by football fans who 9/10 would do similar themselves. 

 

Hoo-f***ing-ray. Someone with a bit of sense who isn't getting caught up in the media frenzy surrounding the incidents. Strange actions and unprofessional reactions but not nearly as bad as people are painting it to be.

[SecretPro]

If you'd read my output on here more often, you'd have actually come to the conclusion long ago that I slate and praise the manager as I see fit. Just as much as I praise and slate players and just as much as I love a good, well-put and eloquently put argument on a football messageboard.

 

I use language because I love using languages.

I have done so for ages and will hopefully continue doing so. I have been on here way before Pearson came along and I have been a Leicester fan for years before that. So much for your "Pearson love" theory.

 

Leicester aren't "****ed" and if they were, it certainly wouldn't be because of the manager alone.

 

I applaud your attempt at going in more of an essay-like direction, but sadly, it's mostly wrapping without any tangible content:

 

Thank you for proving my point.

 

Well, if insults are good enough for Pearson and his fans, then I'll roll with it,

[lgfualol]

I have tried to keep a level head with Pearson, as I like him and supported him this season up until the last few weeks. 

 

Today I lost my last nerve with him and the team, and felt pretty angry after the game - which rarely happens. What a complete waste, and complete mess our team has turned into. I seriously hope the team and staff have some mega relegation clauses so their wages actually represent their level.

 

I'm jealous of Burnley for **** sake. 

[inckley fox]

When you can show me that Nigel Pearson has to sit down with members of the general public to discuss his role at Leicester City football club and why he makes certain decisions he makes similar to a teacher at parents evening then I will concur that he has to deal with the public in a professional capacity. As it is you can't and he doesn't so it makes your point null and void. A Premier League manager doesn't work with the general public.

 

Very few people who work in the public sector, or with the public at all, have to sit down with unpaid members of the public to justify their decisions. That isn't how you define 'working with the public'.

 

He has a duty to the club in his public conduct, which is a general term referring to press conferences as much as to how he behaves on match-day. He has already been fined and banned this season for his failure to meet these standards, so to deny that he in any way works with the general public is quite a stretch - because he's actually been punished for his dealings with it.

 

Depending on what he says in press conferences, he may also be punished for any published comments. The word 'published' in itself, and the fact that a dozen or so comments of his will be published in a single week, means that he is interacting with the public. The fact that the punishment for doing so irresponsibly is called a 'disrepute' charge ('disrepute' means to be held in low esteem by the public, by the way) is further evidence of a manager's duty in interacting with the public. And this interaction occurs to a far greater extent, reaching out to far more people, than any teacher, policeman, lawyer etc.

 

If you read into duty of care, professional standards in football etc. you will see plenty of further evidence of football management being a profession which is firmly in the public eye, and that those managers have a responsibility to the public. To claim that this simply doesn't exist is almost as daft as claiming that Pearson has managed to uphold those standards, because he's already been fined once for failing to. And just as a journalist isn't expected to use that kind of language in public, or direct it towards large groups of people, the same applies to Pearson.

 

This is simply the truth, it's not really open to dispute. Pearson has a duty with the public, his words are published, he meets them face to face every week en masse and he can be and has been fined for his dealings with the public, thanks to a rule which makes very specific reference to expectations of a manager's professional interactions with the public. Now you might argue that foul language being broadcast on television is an acceptable interaction with the public, though I don't believe it is, but to argue that it isn't actually an interaction with the public at all is ridiculous.

[MC Prussian]

I have tried to keep a level head with Pearson, as I like him and supported him this season up until the last few weeks. 

 

Today I lost my last nerve with him and the team, and felt pretty angry after the game - which rarely happens. What a complete waste, and complete mess our team has turned into. I seriously hope the team and staff have some mega relegation clauses so their wages actually represent their level.

 

I'm jealous of Burnley for **** sake. 

I'd say that's the main reason some people are so riled tonight.

[SecretPro]

I'd say that's the main reason some people are so riled tonight.

 

Yeah, you don't seem bothered that Burnley are better than us. Is this acceptabale to you?

[Donut]

I'd say that's the main reason some people are so riled tonight.

 

Youre very idiot if you think their 1-0 win is the source of peoples frustrations right now.

 

Burnleys 1-0 win is a bit like a deckchair on the ****ing titanic.

[Stuntman_Mike]

Let's be fair, we're gone.

 

We're hopeless, clueless, weak and unmotivated. 

 

The reaction and mood of the crowd when Lawrence came on summed it up for me.

 

We need a lift. A lift we should have had weeks, maybe months ago to give us hope.

 

I've always been a Pro Pearson fan but it has gone too far now.

 

5 defenders at home to Hull. Enough is enough.