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The EU referendum - IN / OUT or Shake it all about.

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Oh and if you enjoy imported German or Belgian beers or are partial to continental wines then... £££

 

how come they don't tell us this on the news? it's all like blah blah blah rich people the nhs blah blah something about tax blah immigration 

 

like if they told us the every day pros and cons for leaving more people would know what's what and more people would vote. 

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With you on board, Scouse, we might just make it.  Don't see how anyone can argue with the bloke who called Leicester to win the league back in August.

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Can those voting leave please clarify where all the "saved" money is going. 

 

This morning on the TV I've heard that it's all going to the NHS, all going to the farmers and all going to somewhere else which has already fled my mind. What is the leavers official line?

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Tax incentives

 

Can those voting leave please clarify where all the "saved" money is going. 

 

This morning on the TV I've heard that it's all going to the NHS, all going to the farmers and all going to somewhere else which has already fled my mind. What is the leavers official line?

 

 for the wealthy.

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Can those voting leave please clarify where all the "saved" money is going. 

 

This morning on the TV I've heard that it's all going to the NHS, all going to the farmers and all going to somewhere else which has already fled my mind. What is the leavers official line?

It's all going to all of them and more. Money for everyone.

I'm voting stay cus all the people voting leave on my Facebook are cu nts.

I'm voting leave for the same reason.

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"Money for everyone" lol

The saved net membership fee is less than 1% of UK public expenditure. It'll be dwarfed by the reduced tax take. Money for nobody, is more like it.

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Can those voting leave please clarify where all the "saved" money is going. 

 

This morning on the TV I've heard that it's all going to the NHS, all going to the farmers and all going to somewhere else which has already fled my mind. What is the leavers official line?

So saving money in the world you live in is a bad thing ?....interesting.. hand over your purse/ wallet  to somebody else and let them spend YOUR hard earned money for you, because they know better than you ... ha ha 

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That's a really good positive reason to vote then...

 

You are not too hot on funny one-liners are you?

So saving money in the world you live in is a bad thing ?....interesting.. hand over your purse/ wallet  to somebody else and let them spend YOUR hard earned money for you, because they know better than you ... ha ha 

 

Saving money hahaha you are not too bright Johnny.

 

btw I give all my money to my wife to spend as she sees fit. Works for us.

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My mind keeps flipping from stay to leave. My main argument against voting to stay in was because I feel like houses are just too expensive and more people moving in is only going to make houses more expensive surely? I'm trying to save up for a mortgage and it seems like houses are going up about £5000-10,000 each year O_O Not sure voting to leave will make enough of a difference but nobody seems to talk about housing in these debates. IT's almost like nobody cares because everyone has their mortgage sorted out :( 

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My mind keeps flipping from stay to leave. My main argument against voting to stay in was because I feel like houses are just too expensive and more people moving in is only going to make houses more expensive surely? I'm trying to save up for a mortgage and it seems like houses are going up about £5000-10,000 each year O_O Not sure voting to leave will make enough of a difference but nobody seems to talk about housing in these debates. IT's almost like nobody cares because everyone has their mortgage sorted out :(

According to remain house prices will drop like a stone if we brexit.
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how come they don't tell us this on the news? it's all like blah blah blah rich people the nhs blah blah something about tax blah immigration 

 

like if they told us the every day pros and cons for leaving more people would know what's what and more people would vote. 

 

If we leave I'll have to come back to the UK and get a proper job. Just let that sink in for a while.

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According to leave, house prices will drop like a stone if we brexit.

 

 

I thought that it was Remain who made that claim?

 

And presented it as something bad? When it would be excellent news for many people, notably younger or less well-off people who currently can't afford to buy a home.

 

Although Remain are using this as one of multiple scare stories, there's probably some short-term truth in this and most of their other scare stories - with emphasis on "some" and on "short-term".

I assume that Brexit would have various negative economic effects over at least 2-3 years - and might well cause a fall in house prices (good for first-time buyers, bad for people relying on the capital for retirement).

 

Beyond the short-term, though, we might be better or worse off outside the EU depending on the global economy - and depending on the policies pursued at national level and at EU level.

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I thought that it was Remain who made that claim?

 

And presented it as something bad? When it would be excellent news for many people, notably younger or less well-off people who currently can't afford to buy a home.

 

Although Remain are using this as one of multiple scare stories, there's probably some short-term truth in this and most of their other scare stories - with emphasis on "some" and on "short-term".

I assume that Brexit would have various negative economic effects over at least 2-3 years - and might well cause a fall in house prices (good for first-time buyers, bad for people relying on the capital for retirement).

 

Beyond the short-term, though, we might be better or worse off outside the EU depending on the global economy - and depending on the policies pursued at national level and at EU level.

You're right, it was a typo.
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My mind keeps flipping from stay to leave. My main argument against voting to stay in was because I feel like houses are just too expensive and more people moving in is only going to make houses more expensive surely? I'm trying to save up for a mortgage and it seems like houses are going up about £5000-10,000 each year O_O Not sure voting to leave will make enough of a difference but nobody seems to talk about housing in these debates. IT's almost like nobody cares because everyone has their mortgage sorted out :(

Housing prices are going up and up because UK govts consistently don't do enough to build or encourage the building of new homes.

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House prices - broadly, fewer immigrants will reduce demand and therefore reduce house price growth, but on that basis it will take net outflows in the population to decrease prices, and personally I can't see immigration slowing significantly in the long term unless the UK simply becomes an unattractive place to move to, in which case we're all losers.

The other issue is that much of the house building industry is already stretched beyond capacity, if fewer EU construction workers arrive that will reduce capacity even more, meaning fewer houses are built, and those that are built will be more expensive due to the increased costs of employing the builders who remain.

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You are not too hot on funny one-liners are you?

 

Saving money hahaha you are not too bright Johnny.

 

btw I give all my money to my wife to spend as she sees fit. Works for us.

no comment on the issue of the thread, just personal jibes...  says more about you than anything about me..

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House prices - broadly, fewer immigrants will reduce demand and therefore reduce house price growth, but on that basis it will take net outflows in the population to decrease prices, and personally I can't see immigration slowing significantly in the long term unless the UK simply becomes an unattractive place to move to, in which case we're all losers.

The other issue is that much of the house building industry is already stretched beyond capacity, if fewer EU construction workers arrive that will reduce capacity even more, meaning fewer houses are built, and those that are built will be more expensive due to the increased costs of employing the builders who remain.

 

 

This is my other worry you see. I honestly have no idea which way to go now.

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House prices are engineered to keep going up because that's how the whole economy works. The goverment wants you to take out expensive loans for expensive houses so the banks get more interest. Until, of course, the interest rates get so high that people start defaulting on their mortgages and the proverbial bubble pops. The banks lose money and your taxes are used to prop them back up again for the cycle to start again. Welcome to the neoliberal economic system, people.

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