fuchsntf Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 Is there something we can learn from their shortfalls , over the last 2 seasons??? Eg: I think many thought that Hull might improve from last year, and more than hold their own.
foxfanazer Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 Don't sign Premier League mercenaries. Also have NP as manager
Bryn Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 Don't play players who are on cocaine So many teams get the second season wrong. We CAN'T stick with what we've got, much as they've done a magnificent job. The squad is tiny and even with several signings the players who have achieved survival can still hope for 20 Premier League appearances next season. I would look to sign Premier League class in every position.
Dr The Singh Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 So many teams get the second season wrong. We CAN'T stick with what we've got, much as they've done a magnificent job. The squad is tiny and even with several signings the players who have achieved survival can still hope for 20 Premier League appearances next season. I would look to sign Premier League class in every position. Don't go making changes too fast, unless you've got stupid money and buy the best!!
LCCFox96 Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 Let the people who know about football run the football club. Not becoming Leicester Foxes FC would also be a nice bonus!
EGBFitness Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 Don't play players who are on cocaine Unless they party like Jamie Vardy
Far Post Gerry Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 Always believe, don't be twats and keep Nige. easy
sdb Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 Buy proven players for positions we need to improve on most.
Munshi Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 So many teams get the second season wrong. We CAN'T stick with what we've got, much as they've done a magnificent job. The squad is tiny and even with several signings the players who have achieved survival can still hope for 20 Premier League appearances next season. I would look to sign Premier League class in every position. Oh I wasn't talking about tactics mate I just don't want the players to be on cocaine
Bryn Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 Don't go making changes too fast, unless you've got stupid money and buy the best!! I don't mean bringing XI players but I think if you identify a readily available and affordable player in any position I would be open to bringing them in.
DanTheMan Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 So many teams get the second season wrong. We CAN'T stick with what we've got, much as they've done a magnificent job. The squad is tiny and even with several signings the players who have achieved survival can still hope for 20 Premier League appearances next season. I would look to sign Premier League class in every position. I was going to make a separate thread, but this one seems on topic... Just been doing some research about relegations from the Premier League, in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd seasons after promotion. The results are interesting reading: 92/93: FIRST SEASON 93/94: 1st Season: Swindon Town - 2nd Season: N/A - 3rd Season: N/A 94/95: 1st Season: Crystal Palace, Leicester City - 3rd Season: N/A 95/96: 1st Season: Bolton Wanderers 96/97: 1st Season: Sunderland - 2nd Season: Middlesbrough - 3rd Season: Nottingham Forest 97/98: 1st Season: Barnsley, Bolton Wanderers, Crystal Palace - 3rd Season: Bolton Wanderers 98/99: 1st Season: Charlton Athletic, Nottingham Forest 99/00: 1st Season: Watford 00/01: 1st Season: Manchester City - 2nd Season: Bradford City 01/02: 2nd Season: Ipswich Town 02/03: 1st Season: West Bromwich Albion 03/04: 1st Season: Leicester City, Wolverhampton Wanderers 04/05: 1st Season: Crystal Palace, Norwich 05/06: 2nd Season: West Bromwich Albion 06/07: 1st Season: Sheffield United, Watford 07/08: 1st Season: Birmingham City, Derby County - 2nd Season: Reading 08/09: 1st Season: West Bromwich Albion 09/10: 1st Season: Burnley - 2nd Season: Hull City 10/11: 1st Season: Blackpool 11/12: 3rd Season: Wolverhampton Wanderers 12/13: 1st Season: Reading - 2nd Season: Queens Park Rangers 13/14: 1st Season: Cardiff - 3rd Season: Norwich City 14/15: 1st Season: Burnley, Queens Park Rangers - 2nd Season: Hull City??? 1st Season Relegations: 28 2nd Season Relegations: 7 3rd Season Relegations: 4 Total Historical Relegations: 67 In summary, approx. 42% of promoted teams were relegated straight away, 10.5% suffer 2nd season syndrome, 6% got unlucky after 3 seasons. So it looks slightly brighter in terms of our chances of staying up next season than I thought - at least from the historical trends
shailen Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 I don't see us in that mould. What those teams did was replace their core with more "experience" and I don't believe that is the way to go. Stick to the main players that got us promoted which we have, with one or two additions. Another thing was that apart from Albrighton and Huth we haven't signed anyone from a PL club. Ulloa was one of the best in the Championship which is better than one of the worst in the PL. I don't see us going that way with the scouting system we have and the players Pearson likes to bring in. Don't worry about that. We will go down only if the players we buy don't perform, not because of buying bad eggs from other clubs.
Manwell Pablo Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 2nd season syndrome isn't uncommon but I think give the way we've ended the season we will be alright. The challange for Nigel and us as a club will be to improve on our finishing position this season if we finish 14th or possibly even 13th. Personally I'd like to see us take the cups a bit more seriously as well. Especially the League Cup, can't be going out in the 2nd round again.
My Nads Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 Always believe, don't be twats and keep Nige. easy What?!! Do you want to keep Nige or not?
Deucalion Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 I was going to make a separate thread, but this one seems on topic... Just been doing some research about relegations from the Premier League, in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd seasons after promotion. The results are interesting reading: 92/93: FIRST SEASON 93/94: 1st Season: Swindon Town - 2nd Season: N/A - 3rd Season: N/A 94/95: 1st Season: Crystal Palace, Leicester City - 3rd Season: N/A 95/96: 1st Season: Bolton Wanderers 96/97: 1st Season: Sunderland - 2nd Season: Middlesbrough - 3rd Season: Nottingham Forest 97/98: 1st Season: Barnsley, Bolton Wanderers, Crystal Palace - 3rd Season: Bolton Wanderers 98/99: 1st Season: Charlton Athletic, Nottingham Forest 99/00: 1st Season: Watford 00/01: 1st Season: Manchester City - 2nd Season: Bradford City 01/02: 2nd Season: Ipswich Town 02/03: 1st Season: West Bromwich Albion 03/04: 1st Season: Leicester City, Wolverhampton Wanderers 04/05: 1st Season: Crystal Palace, Norwich 05/06: 2nd Season: West Bromwich Albion 06/07: 1st Season: Sheffield United, Watford 07/08: 1st Season: Birmingham City, Derby County - 2nd Season: Reading 08/09: 1st Season: West Bromwich Albion 09/10: 1st Season: Burnley - 2nd Season: Hull City 10/11: 1st Season: Blackpool 11/12: 3rd Season: Wolverhampton Wanderers 12/13: 1st Season: Reading - 2nd Season: Queens Park Rangers 13/14: 1st Season: Cardiff - 3rd Season: Norwich City 14/15: 1st Season: Burnley, Queens Park Rangers - 2nd Season: Hull City??? 1st Season Relegations: 28 2nd Season Relegations: 7 3rd Season Relegations: 4 Total Historical Relegations: 67 In summary, approx. 42% of promoted teams were relegated straight away, 10.5% suffer 2nd season syndrome, 6% got unlucky after 3 seasons. So it looks slightly brighter in terms of our chances of staying up next season than I thought - at least from the historical trends So 'Second Season Syndrome' is a myth?
HighPeakFox Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 So 'Second Season Syndrome' is a myth? It's a media construct imo
Tielemans63 Posted 16 May 2015 Posted 16 May 2015 We'll stay up comfortably next season - I'm sure of it.
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