Pearson Sacked

[Webbo]

I don't understand your stance, people are giving you clear evidence to suggest that your opinion/ statement of Nigel being a guy that makes enemies easily is completely wrong. Yet you continue to, with quite an aggressive manner, restate that he has fallen out with all these people in public. There is no eveidence to suggest the Lee Hoos exit was due to Nigel (apart from speculation), there is also little evidence to suggest a falling out between Milan and Nige. Even the journalist he called an ostrich has stated that he didn't think Nige deserved the sack.

The only incident in your favour really is the statement Nige made to someone in the crowd at the Liverpool game, but I can tell you personally that a gesture was made about his daughter, to which I think I would react in a similar way.

There has clearly been a disagreement regarding perspectives of the future and that had led to both parties unfortunately seperating. I still don't think he deserved to sacked though.

You don't work with him on a daily basis though, nor do you pay his wages. He was obviously sacked for something and I find the alternative theories totally unconvincing. Sometimes the obvious answer is the truth.

[Carl the Llama]

First of all, I've never said that you're abusing your mod status. Now you're putting words in my mouth.

You're a moderator. You do delete posts occasionally. And even entire threads. That's a fact.

 

And where am I calling you a liar exactly?

 

You're being very bizarre. I've never seen you so agitated and relentless.

Oh ffs, which thread do you think a post was deleted from?  Webbo seems quite clear that there is no record of a deleted post...

[inckley fox]

You don't work with him on a daily basis though, nor do you pay his wages. He was obviously sacked for something and I find the alternative theories totally unconvincing. Sometimes the obvious answer is the truth.

 

Neither do you. He can't say that Pearson was in the right for exactly the same reason that you can't say he was in the wrong. It's the very nature of not knowing something.

 

Which leaves us with a board sacking a highly successful manager and no explanation. Which doesn't look good. Hence the dismay.

[Webbo]

Neither do you. He can't say that Pearson was in the right for exactly the same reason that you can't say he was in the wrong. It's the very nature of not knowing something.

 

Which leaves us with a board sacking a highly successful manager and no explanation. Which doesn't look good. Hence the dismay.

I'm getting bored with this now and I've got to go bed so this'll be my last post tonight.

 

There are always non disclosure agreements involved with these sort of things.

 

The owners, by being discreet and not piling the blame on Pearson are doing the decent thing.

 

If they did give a reason, would you believe them or say it was a good enough reason? I suspect not.

[Foxhateram]

You don't work with him on a daily basis though, nor do you pay his wages. He was obviously sacked for something and I find the alternative theories totally unconvincing. Sometimes the obvious answer is the truth.

No but as previously stated I know him well after meeting him many times and I also know people who have worked with on a daily basis, including some people who currently work within the club.

You are right I don't pay his wages, so the decision isn't/wasn't mine to make, but what I can say is that it came as a shock to many in the footballing world, including people within the club.

Tbh it's either differences in opinion of targets/ transfer policies or the Thais not liking the fact he is associated with the Thailand debacle because his son was involved. Both unfit reasons for him to be fired, the first should be something that could be negotiated and the latter would be classed as unfair dismissal as you cannot be sacked for another persons actions.

[inckley fox]

I'm getting bored with this now and I've got to go bed so this'll be my last post tonight.

 

There are always non disclosure agreements involved with these sort of things.

 

The owners, by being discreet and not piling the blame on Pearson are doing the decent thing.

 

If they did give a reason, would you believe them or say it was a good enough reason? I suspect not.

 

Firstly, sleep well and don't go to bed all annoyed because of me!

 

But secondly, there isn't any reason. So we have nothing to use in their defence yet. If a reason is given it then we can all debate it, but up to now all we have is the sacking of one of our best ever managers for no good reason.

 

Anyway, we'll leave it for today and let's hope that tomorrow we have some good news to agree on.

[Alf Bentley]

It's my new protest group. testis for Top. Get behind the board or I'm flashing my knackers.

 

Never mind the bollocks, here's the Sex Pearsons... 

[Mike Oxlong]

The position that it must be a bad decision because we haven't been given the reason doesn't make sense to me

[Guest Col city fan]

If Webbo says a certain post hasn't been deleted then he should know. As a mod.

[Guest Bob Hazels shorts]

I keep reading that he was unfairly dismissed and will take legal action?

Popular with most and obviously respected as a good egg even by me.

But surely it's not beyond people's wildest imagination to accept that he deserved the sack for non footballing reasons., why compensation for this.

[Guest Bob Hazels shorts]

Firstly, sleep well and don't go to bed all annoyed because of me!

 

But secondly, there isn't any reason. So we have nothing to use in their defence yet. If a reason is given it then we can all debate it, but up to now all we have is the sacking of one of our best ever managers for no good reason.

 

Anyway, we'll leave it for today and let's hope that tomorrow we have some good news to agree on.

The exact reason and the straw that broke the camels back may never come out and I guess that is understandable. Given a general picture I am convinced that it was deserved as were those a lot more intelligent than I am when hearing.

I have do doubt.

I can only imagine the reasons but understand there were plenty in his final days.

Fact that he disappeared seems to suggest he went away to cool down? That is an assumption.

[ImBlue]

It's clear the relationship between Pearson and the board broke down. We are close to being sure that the Thailand incident was the final straw. However Pearsons behaviour was erratic at best all the way through the season, of which I don't need to list.

As Webbo said, they had ample opportunity to sack him, and did, only to swallow there pride and bring him back in, with the clubs best interests at heart.

They obviously feel a change is needed and have done it before pre season, which is the right time to do it, just need to hurry up and find the right man to take us forward.

[Mark_w]

The position that it must be a bad decision because we haven't been given the reason doesn't make sense to me

 

Until we're given a good reason we can only surmise that it is a bad decision. It certainly isn't good for the club from a footballing perspective, and we've been given no reason to believe it's the right decision morally, so yeah it's looking pretty bad to me.

[ImBlue]

Until we're given a good reason we can only surmise that it is a bad decision. It certainly isn't good for the club from a footballing perspective, and we've been given no reason to believe it's the right decision morally, so yeah it's looking pretty bad to me.

Do you expect the owners to come and divulge everything to the world? They're working relationship they believed was no longer viable - and we know a lot of what contributed to that. What more is needed? As the employer, that's there decision.

[Finnaldo]

I'm just going to be a hipster over here and not blame Pearson or the board until actual facts come out, and ignore the totally b0llocks odds that have proven after 7 different front runners that the bookies, or anyone know fvck all.

[st albans fox]

Until we're given a good reason we can only surmise that it is a bad decision. It certainly isn't good for the club from a footballing perspective, and we've been given no reason to believe it's the right decision morally, so yeah it's looking pretty bad to me.

If one of my salesmen is doing really well but being an aresehole from time to time I have to deal with it. I will try my best to find a way around it but it's possible that I get to the point where I'm forced to make a decision. Pointless trying to find a like for like analogy but let's say he was creaming off the top of some deals for himself. now I'm makining shed loads of money because he is a great salesman and I could decide to leave alone. But some things cannot be left alone. If you do, they can fester and create other problems in other areas.

We don't know the real reasons. We probably never will, to make a carte blanche statement that it is a 'bad decision' isn't too different than saying the opposite. without knowing any real facts, we can't be sure mark. it's not going to change anything, whatever we think.

[Mark_w]

Do you expect the owners to come and divulge everything to the world? They're working relationship they believed was no longer viable - and we know a lot of what contributed to that. What more is needed? As the employer, that's there decision.

 

Yes actually I do. I am a football fan, I commit time and money to the football club I support and in return I want to be given a reason when the club makes what on the face of it is a crucial and stupid decision. I know I'm not going to get it in football as it is today, but I certainly do think I'm entitled to an explanation.

 

 

We don't know the real reasons. We probably never will, to make a carte blanche statement that it is a 'bad decision' isn't too different than saying the opposite. without knowing any real facts, we can't be sure mark. it's not going to change anything, whatever we think.

 

Yeah, and the point I'm making is, whilst there could be a good reason there's no reason to assume that there is. Until we find out why, I am going to judge the decision on the facts I do know and right now it's a bad decision.

[hackneyfox]

There is every reason to assume there was a good reason as why else would they sack a manager. So I'm going to judge the Decision on the facts I do know and right now it's a good decision.

[Mark_w]

There is every reason to assume there was a good reason as why else would they sack a manager.

 

For a bad reason. Also quite possible unless the owners are literally incapable of making a bad decision.

[st albans fox]

For a bad reason. Also quite possible unless the owners are literally incapable of making a bad decision.

They bought us when they could have waited and taken Everton for the money they have peed up the wall. So yes, they can make a bad decision.

[hackneyfox]

For a bad reason. Also quite possible unless the owners are literally incapable of making a bad decision.

Mark

The point I was trying to make was that you have no more facts to base your opinion than the rest of us. You are emotionally attached to NFP so believe the worst. I'm not and am inclined to think that they wouldn't have sacked, and not had a replacement lined up, without a very good reason.

[Frank to be]

Until we're given a good reason we can only surmise that it is a bad decision. It certainly isn't good for the club from a footballing perspective, and we've been given no reason to believe it's the right decision morally, so yeah it's looking pretty bad to me.

Obviously there was a reason though. You're turning into inckley fox there. "We don't know the reason therefore it must be bad. PS King Power? Spelt with a 'K', as in KKK, they're pretty obviously bad people".

(that was a joke )

There obviously was a reason, trying to curtail the argument before considering the obvious existence of a reason is quite dumb.

Obvious obvious obvious

[Mark_w]

Mark

The point I was trying to make was that you have no more facts to base your opinion than the rest of us. You are emotionally attached to NFP so believe the worst. I'm not and am inclined to think that they wouldn't have sacked, and not had a replacement lined up, without a very good reason.

 

I'm not saying I have more facts. I have the same facts as everyone else, I'm just not making huge assumptions. There is an uncomfortable level of uncertainty that will lead to these arguments which is another reason that we deserve an explanation, but until then I'm not just going to assume the owners have a good reason. But you're wrong if you think I don't want there to be a good reason, I hope there is. I hope someone hasn't just been sacked for achieving success, I hope my football club isn't run by incompetent people who know very little about football, I'm just not at all convinced.

[Guest Col city fan]

I'm not saying I have more facts. I have the same facts as everyone else, I'm just not making huge assumptions. There is an uncomfortable level of uncertainty that will lead to these arguments which is another reason that we deserve an explanation, but until then I'm not just going to assume the owners have a good reason. But you're wrong if you think I don't want there to be a good reason, I hope there is. I hope someone hasn't just been sacked for achieving success, I hope my football club isn't run by incompetent people who know very little about football, I'm just not at all convinced.

Very fair post that.

And I agree.

[hackneyfox]

I'm not saying I have more facts. I have the same facts as everyone else, I'm just not making huge assumptions. There is an uncomfortable level of uncertainty that will lead to these arguments which is another reason that we deserve an explanation, but until then I'm not just going to assume the owners have a good reason. But you're wrong if you think I don't want there to be a good reason, I hope there is. I hope someone hasn't just been sacked for achieving success, I hope my football club isn't run by incompetent people who know very little about football, I'm just not at all convinced.

Why would anyone be 'sacked for achieving success'?

The owners want/need success almost as much as the fans.