Grewks Posted 21 July 2015 Posted 21 July 2015 I have heard this phrase used a lot in the past by the owners/susan whelan about the clubs aims and desires while the Thai lads are in charge. So it is certainly frustrating when the owners themselves.... 1) Sack the greatest manager in the history of the football club (Okay this is debatable...but certainly in top 3 for everyone). For none footballing reasons as well may i add. 2) Fail to convince the most decorated footballer in our history, especially when we now have a 'World renowned manager' to sign a new deal. Yet he is willing to sign for a manager he has never heard of (Pearson). 12 months ago, on the 21st of july, we were certainly in a much better position than we are now.
Fox92 Posted 21 July 2015 Posted 21 July 2015 Our midfield is dreadful. That's where we need to first improve.
Raw Dykes Posted 21 July 2015 Posted 21 July 2015 I have heard this phrase used a lot in the past by the owners/susan whelan about the clubs aims and desires while the Thai lads are in charge. So it is certainly frustrating when the owners themselves.... 1) Sack the greatest manager in the history of the football club (Okay this is debatable...but certainly in top 3 for everyone). For none footballing reasons as well may i add. 2) Fail to convince the most decorated footballer in our history, especially when we now have a 'World renowned manager' to sign a new deal. Yet he is willing to sign for a manager he has never heard of (Pearson). 12 months ago, on the 21st of july, we were certainly in a much better position than we are now. It's not looking good, is it? I'll be gobsmacked if we stay up this season.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 21 July 2015 Posted 21 July 2015 I have heard this phrase used a lot in the past by the owners/susan whelan about the clubs aims and desires while the Thai lads are in charge. So it is certainly frustrating when the owners themselves.... 1) Sack the greatest manager in the history of the football club (Okay this is debatable...but certainly in top 3 for everyone). For none footballing reasons as well may i add. 2) Fail to convince the most decorated footballer in our history, especially when we now have a 'World renowned manager' to sign a new deal. Yet he is willing to sign for a manager he has never heard of (Pearson). 12 months ago, on the 21st of july, we were certainly in a much better position than we are now. What do you expect them to do? They made him an offer, he turned it down. The club can't let themselves be held ransom by individual players.
MPH Posted 21 July 2015 Posted 21 July 2015 Can we not at least wait till our first defeat for the doom and gloom thread?
Fox92 Posted 21 July 2015 Posted 21 July 2015 Can we not at least wait till our first defeat for the doom and gloom thread? 18 days and counting....
RedSoxUK Posted 21 July 2015 Posted 21 July 2015 Losing Pearson due to his own behaviour is not the owners fault. Losing Cambiasso to a team offering stupid money / different career choice is not the owners or managers, or DoFs fault. Relax, we have money, we have prestige - we'll be investing in the midfield. Owners brought in a top quality striker in Okazaki and a class defender / assist team player in Fuchs with our most important player from last season, Huth.
cc_star Posted 21 July 2015 Posted 21 July 2015 Losing Pearson due to his own behaviour is not the owners fault. Losing Cambiasso to a team offering stupid money / different career choice is not the owners or managers, or DoFs fault. Relax, we have money, we have prestige - we'll be investing in the midfield. Owners brought in a top quality striker in Okazaki and a class defender / assist team player in Fuchs with our most important player from last season, Huth. Losing Pearson due to his own fault, is open to interpretation, because he was still here after everything that had happened and he was sacked as soon as they got a whiff of one of Hiddink's farts, only to be left with egg on their faces when he said he'd sooner retireBefore going cap in hand for the 3rd time to Lord MoN Before settling on the risky Ranieri, advertising his services in national press after a disastrous last job..... whose only influence so far is Cambiasso deciding not to renew, probably down to Ranieri's piss poor man-managment at Inter Thank **** Pearson already got Huth & Fuchs in as well as Schlupp and others renewed else we'd probably struggle to reach 30 points Embarrassment!
RedSoxUK Posted 21 July 2015 Posted 21 July 2015 Losing Pearson due to his own fault, is open to interpretation, because he was still here after everything that had happened and he was sacked as soon as they got a whiff of one of Hiddink's farts, only to be left with egg on their faces when he said he'd sooner retire Before going cap in hand for the 3rd time to Lord MoN Before settling on the risky Ranieri, advertising his services in national press after a disastrous last job..... whose only influence so far is Cambiasso deciding not to renew, probably down to Ranieri's piss poor man-managment at Inter Thank **** Pearson already got Huth & Fuchs in as well as Schlupp and others renewed else we'd probably struggle to reach 30 points Embarrassment! Oh yeah! we must praise the lord Nigel Pearson for bring in Fuchs and Huth, as Pearson clearly scouted these players, compared them to other targets, and put the bids in himself to get them on his party bus back to the Europa League. That's bollocks mate, managers of PL clubs have a small role in how a football club operates, their biggest and mostly only strengh is how to shape the team, and when to change the team.
ARM1968 Posted 21 July 2015 Posted 21 July 2015 It is what it is, no point wasting time or effort whinging about it Pearson was a pillock and would have shot himself in the foot during the coming season. Bookies knew it. All we can do now is hope we bring in 2 or 3 quality midfielders. We need at least two now and probably 3. Right back as well I'd imagine.
Frank to be Posted 21 July 2015 Posted 21 July 2015 Losing Pearson due to his own fault, is open to interpretation, because he was still here after everything that had happened and he was sacked as soon as they got a whiff of one of Hiddink's farts, only to be left with egg on their faces when he said he'd sooner retire Before going cap in hand for the 3rd time to Lord MoN Before settling on the risky Ranieri, advertising his services in national press after a disastrous last job..... whose only influence so far is Cambiasso deciding not to renew, probably down to Ranieri's piss poor man-managment at Inter Thank **** Pearson already got Huth & Fuchs in as well as Schlupp and others renewed else we'd probably struggle to reach 30 points Embarrassment! Why do so called 'fans' insist on telling so many lies purely to discredit the club? If you don't like the club, go and support another one. We're better off without sh1t stirrers
cc_star Posted 21 July 2015 Posted 21 July 2015 Oh yeah! we must praise the lord Nigel Pearson for bring in Fuchs and Huth, as Pearson clearly scouted these players, compared them to other targets, and put the bids in himself to get them on his party bus back to the Europa League. That's bollocks mate, managers of PL clubs have a small role in how a football club operates, their biggest and mostly only strengh is how to shape the team, and when to change the team. Who the **** do you think Walsh is (whose attached to NP for years and years), who do you think Walsh and the scouting dept report to, who do you think vets Walsh (& his department's) findings?He was never head coach, 1st team coach or whatever title they get these days, he was an old style club manager whose influence was top to bottom and front to back The length of time people are scouted, the club's initial approach to these targets through negotiations by DoF takes ages, of course Huth, Fuchs, Okazaki and others are a direct result of Pearson and the team he assembled and presided over, even N'Golo Kante wheels have been underway for some time. Telling that Cambiasso would sign for newly promoted side, 2nd favourite for the drop for a manager he had probably never heard of before, but wouldn't sign for experienced 'world famous' Tinkerman who has 'managed' him before to cries of piss poor man-management from the senior pros at Inter And who's to say NP wouldn't have taken us to Europa League? He assembled the talent, he assembled and was responsible for the spirit, drive and enthusiasm and the phenomenal final quarter of the season, banishing the blues of the middle half... Which given the experience from those improved performance levels and signings of Huth etc (for a while season) we had every chance of starting where we left off And you only have to look at Pearson's proven record of continuous improvement that he delivered throughout years & years here to see that with the added experience & new signings we could have been there anyway, rather than throwing away years of progression on a roll of the dice on a 'name' manager (at least 3rd choice 'name' at that)
Babylon Posted 21 July 2015 Posted 21 July 2015 12 months ago, on the 21st of july, we were certainly in a much better position than we are now. How do you work that out exactly?
cc_star Posted 21 July 2015 Posted 21 July 2015 Why do so called 'fans' insist on telling so many lies purely to discredit the club? If you don't like the club, go and support another one. We're better off without sh1t stirrersWhere's the lies?You lap up & happy clap whatever PR the club sprinkles your way if you want, but if you can't see the truth behind the PR, that's your issue. It doesn't mean people that can see the obvious, are lying
Rincewind Posted 21 July 2015 Posted 21 July 2015 How do you work that out exactly? TBF we were on level points with Chelsea.
Babylon Posted 21 July 2015 Posted 21 July 2015 TBF we were on level points with Chelsea.we still are. Zero
Frank to be Posted 21 July 2015 Posted 21 July 2015 Where's the lies? You lap up & happy clap whatever PR the club sprinkles your way if you want, but if you can't see the truth behind the PR, that's your issue. It doesn't mean people that can see the obvious, are lying The lie is you pretending to know how the board were thinking when it's patently obvious that you don't. You don't know the club were after Hiddink. You don't know O'Neil was the next choice. You don't know ranieri was the third choice. You don't know any of this. These are all lies. Lies told with the deliberate intention to do nothing other than discredit the club. No real fans makes up negative lies about their own club. Pearson will be back in management soon. I suggest you take your 'support' to wherever he washes up. It's not wanted here.
CosbehFox Posted 21 July 2015 Posted 21 July 2015 The lie is you pretending to know how the board were thinking when it's patently obvious that you don't. You don't know the club were after Hiddink. You don't know O'Neil was the next choice. You don't know ranieri was the third choice. You don't know any of this. These are all lies. Lies told with the deliberate intention to do nothing other than discredit the club. No real fans makes up negative lies about their own club. Pearson will be back in management soon. I suggest you take your 'support' to wherever he washes up. It's not wanted here. It was back page of the Times upon Ranieri's appointment. That's about as good as we will get. Certainly the media speculation to O'Neill where every press outlet reported it and the Irish media backed it up too. So Ranieri was certainly second choice.
CosbehFox Posted 21 July 2015 Posted 21 July 2015 Why do so called 'fans' insist on telling so many lies purely to discredit the club? If you don't like the club, go and support another one. We're better off without sh1t stirrers Rather ironic when you were crediting Cambiasso for the great season end thanks to a wishy washy quote from Birchenall.
Leicester_Numan Posted 21 July 2015 Posted 21 July 2015 The lie is you pretending to know how the board were thinking when it's patently obvious that you don't. You don't know the club were after Hiddink. You don't know O'Neil was the next choice. You don't know ranieri was the third choice. You don't know any of this. These are all lies. Lies told with the deliberate intention to do nothing other than discredit the club. No real fans makes up negative lies about their own club. Pearson will be back in management soon. I suggest you take your 'support' to wherever he washes up. It's not wanted here. To be fair, they're only lies if they're untrue and he knows it. Those statements could be perfectly true and you don't know they're not either.
Donut Posted 21 July 2015 Posted 21 July 2015 I have heard this phrase used a lot in the past by the owners/susan whelan about the clubs aims and desires while the Thai lads are in charge. So it is certainly frustrating when the owners themselves.... 1) Sack the greatest manager in the history of the football club (Okay this is debatable...but certainly in top 3 for everyone). For none footballing reasons as well may i add. 2) Fail to convince the most decorated footballer in our history, especially when we now have a 'World renowned manager' to sign a new deal. Yet he is willing to sign for a manager he has never heard of (Pearson). 12 months ago, on the 21st of july, we were certainly in a much better position than we are now. 1) There was a breakdown in relationship. Football or not. When you cant work together anymore, you cant work together anymore. 2) Cambiasso was made an offer and didnt take it up. Dont try and create some shit implying he wouldnt sign for Ranieri but would for Pearson if he was still here. 3) Stop being a fvcking baby and get over that Pearson has gone. You deserve to be slapped.
Frank to be Posted 21 July 2015 Posted 21 July 2015 It was back page of the Times upon Ranieri's appointment. That's about as good as we will get. Certainly the media speculation to O'Neill where every press outlet reported it and the Irish media backed it up too. So Ranieri was certainly second choice. Can't find anything in the times. We know that the club probably approached O'Neill. That doesn't mean he was ahead of Ranieri. It's not uncommon for employers to interview a selection of candidates before deciding their order of preference. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that practice is the overwhelming norm at pretty much every single business in the world. There's no good reason to assume that the club speaking to O'Neill or Hiddink or whoever means that they were preferred to Ranieri. It is in fact a ridiculous assumption.
SecretPro Posted 21 July 2015 Posted 21 July 2015 Are there not already enough threads for more negative bollocks.
RedSoxUK Posted 21 July 2015 Posted 21 July 2015 Who the **** do you think Walsh is (whose attached to NP for years and years), who do you think Walsh and the scouting dept report to, who do you think vets Walsh (& his department's) findings? He was never head coach, 1st team coach or whatever title they get these days, he was an old style club manager whose influence was top to bottom and front to back The length of time people are scouted, the club's initial approach to these targets through negotiations by DoF takes ages, of course Huth, Fuchs, Okazaki and others are a direct result of Pearson and the team he assembled and presided over, even N'Golo Kante wheels have been underway for some time. Telling that Cambiasso would sign for newly promoted side, 2nd favourite for the drop for a manager he had probably never heard of before, but wouldn't sign for experienced 'world famous' Tinkerman who has 'managed' him before to cries of piss poor man-management from the senior pros at Inter And who's to say NP wouldn't have taken us to Europa League? He assembled the talent, he assembled and was responsible for the spirit, drive and enthusiasm and the phenomenal final quarter of the season, banishing the blues of the middle half... Which given the experience from those improved performance levels and signings of Huth etc (for a while season) we had every chance of starting where we left off And you only have to look at Pearson's proven record of continuous improvement that he delivered throughout years & years here to see that with the added experience & new signings we could have been there anyway, rather than throwing away years of progression on a roll of the dice on a 'name' manager (at least 3rd choice 'name' at that) First few questions = Jon Rudkin / pre-Rudkin info went to Terry Robinson and perhaps a few words to Andrew Neville regarding funds if need be. I'm not doubting Pearson was influential to the squad and the staff he brought with him, he was - I respect him greatly, not denying that. It's just, Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha is responsible for bringing in Pearson, Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha is responsible for bringing back Walsh / Shakespeare and giving the scouting team and DoF funds to get Leicester back to the Premier League. It's already widely known that Walsh's scouting and opinions go a long way, and he's the reason Leicester attained plenty of the Manchester contingent - Leonardo Ulloa was signed due to Walsh's admirance and confirmation from City defenders over a tough center forward, Mahrez, Knockaert plucked from the scouting team and their charts headed by David Mills which goes through Walsh. Cambiasso was on Walsh's radar for months, and he got extra info from his pal Andre Villa-Boas, the fact Cambiasso doesn't want to sign now more than likely Isn't down to Ranieri being the man in charge, he has better options on the table, clearly. And the players we've been linked with pre-Raneri and during Ranieri - those official bids and enquiries which are hard to actually confirm, are down to extensive scouting by our staff, not a manager saying 'I like him bring him in'. You're an ostrich if you think Nigel Pearson was anything but a confirmation checker when it came to targeting players and signing them. Pearson was a great man manager and mostly a very good tactician, he commanded the respect of the players and sheltered them too, i'm going to miss that.
ImBlue Posted 21 July 2015 Posted 21 July 2015 Losing Pearson due to his own fault, is open to interpretation, because he was still here after everything that had happened and he was sacked as soon as they got a whiff of one of Hiddink's farts, only to be left with egg on their faces when he said he'd sooner retire Before going cap in hand for the 3rd time to Lord MoN Before settling on the risky Ranieri, advertising his services in national press after a disastrous last job..... whose only influence so far is Cambiasso deciding not to renew, probably down to Ranieri's piss poor man-managment at Inter Thank **** Pearson already got Huth & Fuchs in as well as Schlupp and others renewed else we'd probably struggle to reach 30 points Embarrassment! Idiot. He was going while Pearson was in charge. That is a fact.
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