The Horse's Mouth Posted 4 December 2015 Posted 4 December 2015 Farage really should've stuck to his guns at the GE. He's damaged goods now.
Guest MattP Posted 4 December 2015 Posted 4 December 2015 Maybe these hard-working ethnic minority families are too busy working to take time off to vote - hence the postal vote. Or has anyone looked at the age demographic? Maybe there are a lot of housebound elderly people in the constituency. I'm presuming this is in jest but polling stations are open for 15 hours a day, age demographic doesn't seem to be any different from other areas. Even the Green MP has tweeted concern about this, he claims numerous people were walking in to polling stations to hand in postal votes, I mean what on earth is that about? I agree with you about postal voting. Democracy is important and should be treated as such. Maybe I'm old-fashioned or an idealist, but I think that going to the polling station should be valued and appreciated as a civic duty. It shouldn't be a triviality done by letting someone else fill in a postal ballot paper on your behalf or by clicking a box on the Internet between looking at FoxesTalk and YouTube. Postal or computer voting has to be an option for people who are too old or ill to go to the polling station or who are away on election day, have unavoidable care duties or whatever, but that should be the exception. My Dad is 90 and has Parkinson's but shuffled 150m to the polling station in May, quite literally the longest distance he has walked all year. More people should have his attitude. Sorry, I'm turning into Alf Garnett here! Postal voting probably boosted the majority, but the UKIP candidate still only got just over half as many votes as he did in Heywood & Middleton at a time when Labour is in a mess, suggesting that UKIP has gone backwards big time since the general election - in that area, at least. No cause for any Labour crowing, though. Will be interesting - and possibly sobering for a few Corbynistas - when a byelection occurs in a marginal seat in middle England. Agree with everything you have said, I thought about the story of your Dad earlier when I was talking about this with someone. Deep down I think a lot of people know it's still fairly common in Muslim areas for the man of the house to fill out the voting forms and takes them to the local mosque, even the Guardian ran stories expressing concern about this, you could even argue this comes in as a women's rights issue, if they are fit and healthy they should be going to the polling station. I think it's pretty simple, if you can't get to a polling station you should get a postal vote, if not then you shouldn't.
Finnegan Posted 4 December 2015 Posted 4 December 2015 The mayoral vote in Gangs of New York should be how polling day goes. Gangs roaming the streets with clubs, rounding up dossers and frog marching them to vote.
The Blur Posted 4 December 2015 Posted 4 December 2015 I'm presuming this is in jest but polling stations are open for 15 hours a day, age demographic doesn't seem to be any different from other areas. Even the Green MP has tweeted concern about this, he claims numerous people were walking in to polling stations to hand in postal votes, I mean what on earth is that about? Agree with everything you have said, I thought about the story of your Dad earlier when I was talking about this with someone. Deep down I think a lot of people know it's still fairly common in Muslim areas for the man of the house to fill out the voting forms and takes them to the local mosque, even the Guardian ran stories expressing concern about this, you could even argue this comes in as a women's rights issue, if they are fit and healthy they should be going to the polling station. I think it's pretty simple, if you can't get to a polling station you should get a postal vote, if not then you shouldn't. It is not that simple, the issue is validating people's claims that they cannot vote. I am sure that it would be a hassle to get bombarded with all sort of paperwork and evidence from people who can't vote and validating them which would cost money.
Guest MattP Posted 4 December 2015 Posted 4 December 2015 The mayoral vote in Gangs of New York should be how polling day goes. Gangs roaming the streets with clubs, rounding up dossers and frog marching them to vote. Imagine going in to vote, coming out getting a free beard trim then going back in, coming out, getting a free hair cut and then going in again, I'd actually be up for that, probably still more cleaner than these households in Tower Hamlets that had 38 people in them voting Labour. There was an interesting read in The Times a few weeks about Churchill in the Oldham West seat in 1899, the election back then was basically about how many people you could ferry to the polling station. The Tories lost to the Liberals as they had 130 carriages to the Tories' 90, Churchill also ordered a car that broke down somewhere near Stockport.
Finnegan Posted 4 December 2015 Posted 4 December 2015 see, that's politicians going the extra mile. VOTE TAMNANY!
Guest MattP Posted 4 December 2015 Posted 4 December 2015 Another film I need to watch again soon, Bill Cutting what a character. Maybe this is the way forward, political transport turning up venues to try and get voters, UKIP collecting all the pissheads in the pubs, Labour scouring the Mosques, The Tories sending limos to catch those coming out the theatres, just means the Greens are screwed, imagine trying to get all the geezers down the Dover Castle onto a thousand bikes and down to the polling station.
Buce Posted 4 December 2015 Posted 4 December 2015 I'm presuming this is in jest the first was tongue in cheek, yes, the second, a serious question but polling stations are open for 15 hours a day, age demographic doesn't seem to be any different from other areas. Even the Green MP has tweeted concern about this, he claims numerous people were walking in to polling stations to hand in postal votes, I mean what on earth is that about? Agree with everything you have said, I thought about the story of your Dad earlier when I was talking about this with someone. Deep down I think a lot of people know it's still fairly common in Muslim areas for the man of the house to fill out the voting forms and takes them to the local mosque, hmm. Do you mean like we 'know' that Scots are mean, or Welshmen shag sheep? even the Guardian ran stories expressing concern about this, you could even argue this comes in as a women's rights issue, if they are fit and healthy they should be going to the polling station. I think it's pretty simple, if you can't get to a polling station you should get a postal vote, if not then you shouldn't.
Thracian Posted 4 December 2015 Posted 4 December 2015 Farage is such a bitter loser I'm not surprised given the appalling prospects of being governed by the Labour Party of today.
Guest Posted 4 December 2015 Posted 4 December 2015 None of them are replacements for oil though. You can't run a petrol car on solar power Solar powers batteries moose! duh!!
Guest Posted 4 December 2015 Posted 4 December 2015 Won by 10,000, that's a shocking result for UKIP. Diane James trying to make out it is is pathetic. Farage now claiming on Twitter he's got evidence of fraud, he better be able to back that up. I thought the blues here thought it'd be nothing like that. Did Labour increase their percentage or not?
Guest MattP Posted 4 December 2015 Posted 4 December 2015 Blues? Yellows, Greens, Reds etc all thought the same thing.
MooseBreath Posted 4 December 2015 Posted 4 December 2015 Solar powers batteries moose! duh!! So what? You can use any type of electricity to power batteries.
Guest MattP Posted 4 December 2015 Posted 4 December 2015 Anyone watch This Week last night? Jeremys brother Piers Corbyn was a guest, spoke about the myth of climate change. Was quite good and worth a watch.
davieG Posted 4 December 2015 Posted 4 December 2015 Anyone watch This Week last night? Jeremys brother Piers Corbyn was a guest, spoke about the myth of climate change. Was quite good and worth a watch. Yes really makes you wonder who on earth is telling the actual truth about anything.
Rincewind Posted 4 December 2015 Posted 4 December 2015 https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
Guest Posted 4 December 2015 Posted 4 December 2015 So what? You can use any type of electricity to power batteries. yeah! so let's use clean renewable energy and say "no" to the Saudis.
MooseBreath Posted 4 December 2015 Posted 4 December 2015 yeah! so let's use clean renewable energy and say "no" to the Saudis. Then you just need electric vehicles. You don't need clean renewable energy, so your point about solar power is irrelevant, even more so years ago when electric vehicles weren't an option, which is what I've been getting at
Dr The Singh Posted 4 December 2015 Posted 4 December 2015 Yes really makes you wonder who on earth is telling the actual truth about anything.I have a Masters in Chemistry and have alot a mates that are lecturers and researchers. Obviously research required grants and money. All the money is proving global climate change, even though most agree it doesn't exist, providing evidence on the contrary would essentially means a loss of funding.
Thracian Posted 4 December 2015 Posted 4 December 2015 Thank you I agree, but it was still a result I thought would be far closer, no one even in the Labour party expected to win by a such a margin. The candidate does look a very good one mind, heard him speak a few times today and he comes across as a really nice bloke, the sort you'd love to spend a Sunday afternoon having a pint with. On the subject of "bentgate" Farage never helps himself with his comments but he certainly has a point again about postal voting, why in areas with a high ethnic population does postal voting explode to 20,30 or even 40% in by-elections? Postal voting should be available to those who can't make it to a polling booth, it shouldn't be a choice, the idea of going to a polling station and into a booth is so no one else knows who you vote for. Thank you I agree, but it was still a result I thought would be far closer, no one even in the Labour party expected to win by a such a margin. The candidate does look a very good one mind, heard him speak a few times today and he comes across as a really nice bloke, the sort you'd love to spend a Sunday afternoon having a pint with. On the subject of "bentgate" Farage never helps himself with his comments but he certainly has a point again about postal voting, why in areas with a high ethnic population does postal voting explode to 20,30 or even 40% in by-elections? Postal voting should be available to those who can't make it to a polling booth, it shouldn't be a choice, the idea of going to a polling station and into a booth is so no one else knows who you vote for. Why indeed. I bet nothing's done though.
davieG Posted 5 December 2015 Posted 5 December 2015 Liz Kendall MP hits back at "Blairite scum" jibe from trolls angered by her views on Syria By PA_Warzynski | Posted: December 04, 2015 Leicester West MP Liz Kendall has hit back at Twitter trolls who called her "Blairite scum" Comments (4)Leicester West MP Liz Kendall has responded to insults from angry Twitter users after she voted to back air strikes over Syria. The 44-year-old Labour representative has received numerous nasty messages which labelled her a murderer and "Blairite scum". "You don't frighten me," she replied to @DarrenGrint, whose menacing post called for purge of "Blairite scum like @leicesterliz" - and included the hashtag, #ticktock. Liz said the messages were from fellow Labour party members, who she had reported. Another Pete Farquar (@Renegade_Truth) tweeted: "Liz Kendall = poisonous little tory witch." And Rob Staines (@robstaines) said: "Why don't you join the Tory party? #MurderingBlairite." It comes as MPs from across the country received similar vicious attacks from social media users angered by their pro-bombing stance against Isis. South London MP Mr Coyle, 36, was threatened by Twitter user Alexis (@77_icee) who posted pictures of knives and warned: "u voted for air strikes in Syria, if i see u round ends." Walthamstow MP Stella Creasy was called a "Dumb bitch" by one twitter user, who added, "...hope you get bottled in Walthamstow." Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has now written to all party members urging them to end the abuse. But Liz said she was happy with the way she had dealt with the hatred. "I'm big enough and ugly enough to deal with this," she said. "I love debate and even when it's tough and people have strongly opposing views I welcome the opportunity to explore issues like this. "But calling people murderers and threatening them is unacceptable." Explaining her decision, she said: "I think extending air strikes against Isis will help keep my constituents safe because they present a real and immediate threat and I believe in showing solidarity with our international allies. "The UN has called on us to take the necessary steps - and that's what I think we should do. "It's been the toughest decision I've had to make to make since becoming an MP." Liz's Tory counterpart, Nicky Morgan, also faced hostility when she was booed on Question Time after she repeated Prime Minister David Cameron's claims that Jeremy Corbyn and his supporters were "terrorist sympathisers". Read more: http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Liz-Kendall-MP-hits-Blairite-scum-jibe-trolls/story-28299244-detail/story.html#ixzz3tRSmLGLg Follow us: @Leicester_Merc on Twitter | leicestermercury on Facebook I'm not totally convinced re the effectiveness of the bombing but this stuff is completely unacceptable, Is there not a simple way to identify these people and punish them as this type of malicious posting needs to be stopped before it becomes, if it hasn't already an everyday occurrence that people accept as normal.
Guest Posted 5 December 2015 Posted 5 December 2015 The abuse being linked to Corbyn is rather stupid. The abusers are simply morons who should be traced by the police and punished.
Stadt Posted 5 December 2015 Posted 5 December 2015 The way some of these Labour/Corbyn supporters go on you'd think it was civilians that we are targeting and not ISIS
MooseBreath Posted 5 December 2015 Posted 5 December 2015 To be fair the nasty side of the caring sharing left has never been particularly well hidden, this makes it only slightly more obvious
Charl91 Posted 5 December 2015 Posted 5 December 2015 The way some of these Labour/Corbyn supporters go on you'd think it was civilians that we are targeting and not ISIS No problem with bombing ISIS whatsoever. But how many civilians will end up being killed by these bombs? For me, that's why I'm against the bombing. If I could be convinced that it would only be ISIS caught in it, then I'd have no problems at all.
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