Finnegan Posted 8 December 2015 Posted 8 December 2015 According to many inside the party he is encouraging it and was happy to outsoucre party discipline to Twitter. It's great Corbyn has brought it out in them to a wider audience, this was something never spoken about ten years ago and now the whole country has been able to see it. Oh behave. There's left wing and right wing idiots on the internet. I'm quite sure you don't need me to dig out a load of white power twitter and Facebook trolls just to prove that point. Does baffle me that Kendal is actually in the labour party, mind.
MooseBreath Posted 8 December 2015 Posted 8 December 2015 The fact that you've had to use something as extreme as white power groups to equate to the behaviour of ordinary labour voters says it all really.
Guest MattP Posted 8 December 2015 Posted 8 December 2015 White Power Twitter is now considered the "opposite" side to Labour members/Corbyn supporters?
Strokes Posted 8 December 2015 Posted 8 December 2015 Its pretty strange all this uprising of extreme left though finners and whats more strange is people reaction to it. Its almost deemed acceptable.
Guest MattP Posted 8 December 2015 Posted 8 December 2015 Really, boys? Well yes, it's an absolutely ludicrous comparison, I've barely seen a "white power" Twitter or Facebook account in years, every time you go onto the timeline or someone like Kendall, Woodcock or Umanna now you'll see an absolutely stream of unspeakable abuse towards them from "left wing activists" who often have Labour roses on or "I voted Corbyn" plastered all over the account. It's beyong laughable to even try and say the right has an equivalent to this. Whether you like it or not the left has came across to the country as extremely nasty over the last few years, can you imagine how many Tory voters were created when Thatcher dies. nothing says "I'm a cnut" more dancing in the street at someones death or turning up to a funeral to scream abuse. Now this lot actually have some serious clout within a major political party and the leadership don't seem to want to bother stopping it. Some serious irony this is all happening while the Tories are going through a huge bullying scandal as well.
leicsmac Posted 8 December 2015 Posted 8 December 2015 Well yes, it's an absolutely ludicrous comparison, I've barely seen a "white power" Twitter or Facebook account in years, every time you go onto the timeline or someone like Kendall, Woodcock or Umanna now you'll see an absolutely stream of unspeakable abuse towards them from "left wing activists" who often have Labour roses on or "I voted Corbyn" plastered all over the account. It's beyong laughable to even try and say the right has an equivalent to this. Whether you like it or not the left has came across to the country as extremely nasty over the last few years, can you imagine how many Tory voters were created when Thatcher dies. nothing says "I'm a cnut" more dancing in the street at someones death or turning up to a funeral to scream abuse. Now this lot actually have some serious clout within a major political party and the leadership don't seem to want to bother stopping it. Some serious irony this is all happening while the Tories are going through a huge bullying scandal as well. That's because the 'further' right prefer 4chan and reddit to Twitter and Facebook. Look on there and you'll find plenty of pretty extreme views.
Guest MattP Posted 8 December 2015 Posted 8 December 2015 That's because the 'further' right prefer 4chan and reddit to Twitter and Facebook. Look on there and you'll find plenty of pretty extreme views. Do these website users have clout in a major political party?
MooseBreath Posted 8 December 2015 Posted 8 December 2015 4chan? We're taking 4chan seriously now? I mean jesus.
leicsmac Posted 8 December 2015 Posted 8 December 2015 Do these website users have clout in a major political party? No, and nor do I think for a second that a career politician would be swayed overly by what they have experienced on Twitter or Facebook, either. If anything, all of those sites have equal levels of influence. 4chan? We're taking 4chan seriously now? I mean jesus. I sincerely hope not, and I also hope that we're not taking what people say via Twitter or FB seriously either, because either way it's just words on the Internet. Either both are to be taken seriously or neither.
Guest MattP Posted 8 December 2015 Posted 8 December 2015 I sincerely hope not, and I also hope that we're not taking what people say via Twitter or FB seriously either, because either way it's just words on the Internet. Either both are to be taken seriously or neither. It's being treated very serious, people have been charged, numerous MP's have received death threats and security has been increased outside MP's offices when they are holding surgeries. Tom Watson and others are even now drawing up a code of conduct that he wants all Labour members to sign up to, it involves everything from abuse on social media to campaigning for de-selection so they can take action on those who do break the rules - this Momentum group is deadly serious and they intend to change Labour forever.
Guest MattP Posted 8 December 2015 Posted 8 December 2015 Caroline Lucas has resigned from the Stop The West (sorry War) coalition. http://leftfootforward.org/2015/12/caroline-lucas-has-resigned-from-stop-the-war-coalition/ No doubt will increase some pressure on Corbyn as well.
Wymsey Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 To sign or not to sign? https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/114003
Guest MattP Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 To sign or not to sign? https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/114003 Absolutely not. You don't become facists yourself to defeat people with views like his, Trump should be judged as the same as anyone else if he wants to come to Britain.
Darkon84 Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 Another petition *face palm*. I bet all those people feel really smug.
Buce Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 What was wrong with what he said anyway? You just don't put the effort into your trolling, these days. 0/10
MooseBreath Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 You just don't put the effort into your trolling, these days. 0/10 OK. So what was wrong with it then? I'm not arguing either way, just interested to know what people think is so wrong about what he said.
AKCJ Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 He said that Muslims shouldn't be allowed to enter the US. It's Hilter-esque.
Rincewind Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 You do know he bought a 50 mil yacht of a Muslim sheik and sold one of his businesses to a Muslim royal family.So he does not have Islamophobic feelings for all Muslims. Just those riff raff who do not have money.
Buce Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 OK. So what was wrong with it then? I'm not arguing either way, just interested to know what people think is so wrong about what he said. Nah, I'm not biting.
Guest MattP Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 You do know he bought a 50 mil yacht of a Muslim sheik and sold one of his businesses to a Muslim royal family.So he does not have Islamophobic feelings for all Muslims. Just those riff raff who do not have money. He'll be cool with ISIS then.
MooseBreath Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 He said that Muslims shouldn't be allowed to enter the US. It's Hilter-esque. Well he said temporarily while they get a better understanding of the threat so as to not put Americans at risk for no reason.
bovril Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 He said that Muslims shouldn't be allowed to enter the US. It's Hilter-esque. He should be droning the **** out them like compassionate liberal Obama, people might not be so bothered.
Guest MattP Posted 9 December 2015 Posted 9 December 2015 He should be droning the **** out them like compassionate liberal Obama, people might not be so bothered. Behave, Trump is this year's Nigel Farage, the chattering classes must listen to what he says and they must get upset about it to show how caring they are.
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