Inler ever make the first team?

[Gerard]

How do you improve a Leicester City FC that already sits in 3rd place in the Premier League?

 

Your logic baffles me.

 

How much of our third place do you contribute Benalouane, Inler and Okazaki with?

 

Your logic baffles me if you think these players have a correlation between their contribution and our position. We could easily have signed {insert three random players here} and you would be saying the same thing.

[MC Prussian]

How much of our third place do you contribute Benalouane, Inler and Okazaki with?

 

Your logic baffles me if you think these players have a correlation between their contribution and our position. We could easily have signed {insert three random players here} and you would be saying the same thing.

The team as it is is playing well, better than expected. Hardly the fault of Benalouane, Inler or Okazaki. Or maybe they were contributing factors for the more established players at this club to improve their game.

 

You won't find any Leicester City fan who won't tell you that he'd never imagined us sitting in 3rd place after roughly one third of the season gone.

No one expected it to work this well.

 

The three aforementioned players were brought in to steady the ship on the pitch in case of a similar crisis like last year's. Unfortunately for them, they haven't really been needed (yet).

That experienced players can also have an influence off the pitch and/or on the training ground has apparently slipped your mind.

They might as well be a (major) contributing factor to our current success - but that's something not everybody understands.

[My Nads]

There's a bit too much negativity on here sometimes. One or two injuries and they will be first team regulars, then we can judge them. It's not fair to judge any of them when they haven't played on a regular basis. They would all be different players with regular football and a bit of confidence.

[Gerard]

The team as it is is playing well, better than expected. Hardly the fault of Benalouane, Inler or Okazaki. Or maybe they were contributing factors for the more established players at this club to improve their game.

 

You won't find any Leicester City fan who won't tell you that he'd never imagined us sitting in 3rd place after roughly one third of the season gone.

No one expected it to work this well.

 

The three aforementioned players were brought in to steady the ship on the pitch in case of a similar crisis like last year's. Unfortunately for them, they haven't really been needed (yet).

That experienced players can also have an influence off the pitch and/or on the training ground has apparently slipped your mind.

They might as well have a (major) contributing factor to our current success - but that's something not everybody understands.

 

The team as it is is playing well, better than expected. Hardly the fault of Benalouane, Inler or Okazaki. Or maybe they were contributing factors for the more established players at this club to improve their game.

 

You won't find any Leicester City fan who won't tell you that he'd never imagined us sitting in 3rd place after roughly one third of the season gone.

No one expected it to work this well.

 

The three aforementioned players were brought in to steady the ship on the pitch in case of a similar crisis like last year's. Unfortunately for them, they haven't really been needed (yet).

That experienced players can also have an influence off the pitch and/or on the training ground has apparently slipped your mind.

They might as well have a (major) contributing factor to our current success - but that's something not everybody understands.

 

It's easy to give them credit for something we don't know and can't quantify to suit your argument.

 

I never expected Leicester to be 3rd, no one did but it's ludicrous to give players who haven't done anything credit for this.

 

Buying three players with an average age of 30 who either don't get in the side or contribute less than average when they do isn't great news for us. By definition we have bought players not as good as what we had here. I'd happily sell all three in January for our money back if I could and roll the dice again with some new players.

[FoxinNotts]

Once we lose 2 on the bounce, I'd like us to go for;

3-5-2

Kasper

Benny Huth Fuchs

Albrighton Inler Drinky Kante Schlupp

Mahrez

Vardy

Thus giving a run to Inler, reverting to 3 at the back (I bet we get more clean sheets), and testing my theory that leaking goals could be down to a slight lack of quality in Morgan and either of our right backs. Also use Kante and Inler to hold and cover.

[Thracian]

Once we lose 2 on the bounce, I'd like us to go for;

3-5-2

Kasper

Benny Huth Fuchs

Albrighton Inler Drinky Kante Schlupp

Mahrez

Vardy

Thus giving a run to Inler, reverting to 3 at the back (I bet we get more clean sheets), and testing my theory that leaking goals could be down to a slight lack of quality in Morgan and either of our right backs. Also use Kante and Inler to hold and cover.

 

 

We're not going to be playing three at the back. Ranieri's clearly not comfortable with the system and steered clear of it when the opportunity presented itself.

 

Now we seem to have a fairly settled and reliable defence so I really can't imagine any further review. People have mentioned possible injuries but it's not really all doom and gloom because we've reasonably adequate cover for most situations and I imagine we'll sign at least one and maybe two more to strengthen the situation come January.

 

Shinji's situation is different to Inler's. Most seem to accept that his pressurising makes a difference whether he's scoring/making goals or not and is therefore at least making a worthwhile contribution. It's Inler who seems to be in a cul-de-sac.

 

King seems well focused to do a good job off the bench as he showed so emphatically at the end of our last game and, with Hammond seemingly on the way back, I just don't see how Inler will even get chance to pick the pace up even if he can, which I have my doubts about.

[MC Prussian]

It's easy to give them credit for something we don't know and can't quantify to suit your argument.

 

I never expected Leicester to be 3rd, no one did but it's ludicrous to give players who haven't done anything credit for this.

 

Buying three players with an average age of 30 who either don't get in the side or contribute less than average when they do isn't great news for us. By definition we have bought players not as good as what we had here. I'd happily sell all three in January for our money back if I could and roll the dice again with some new players.

All based on your own conjecture, as well.

 

You just have your constant stance in the sense that you've never warmed up to them and that you don't like them and that you don't rate them - no matter how much they've played or how much they will be playing for this club in the future.

 

We get that.

 

The acquisition of the three players you've mentioned has both added to the team spirit (my opinion) and raised the profile of the club.

Ranieri's also been quoted insofar as that he wanted Inler very badly at Leicester City FC, so there must be something about him that makes him an integral part to the squad now or in the weeks and months to come.

You don't sign players just for the sake of it - they all serve a purpose.

[Babylon]

It's easy to give them credit for something we don't know and can't quantify to suit your argument.

 

I never expected Leicester to be 3rd, no one did but it's ludicrous to give players who haven't done anything credit for this.

 

Buying three players with an average age of 30 who either don't get in the side or contribute less than average when they do isn't great news for us. By definition we have bought players not as good as what we had here. I'd happily sell all three in January for our money back if I could and roll the dice again with some new players.

By definition? What on earth are you talking about.

 

Are Benalouane, Inler and Okazaki better than, say... Upson, Chris Wood and Dean Hammond? The answer is, of course they are. As a squad we've improved, only a fool would suggest we haven't. You'll say "we should only buy people better than those in the starting 11", well I disagree before you even start with that. Yeah, in an ideal world... but we aren't in one.

 

We overpaid for them, that's clear and we pretty much all knew that when it happened. But, premier league teams get rinsed by foreign clubs most of the time. We might not like it, but that's what happens. Even average to decent players from relegated teams like Hull go for £7 / £8m. You go on about Benalouannes stats, but someone like Chesters don't look great and he went for £8m and he's only a couple of years younger.

 

It's great to find a diamond like Kante, but we still paid a pretty penny for a totally untried player. It could easily have gone the other way like Kramaric again. We need to accept, that we're going to end up paying more than a players worth, because I can tell you now, it's only going to get worse with the new money coming in.

[Arriba Los Zorros]

By definition? What on earth are you talking about.

 

Are Benalouane, Inler and Okazaki better than, say... Upson, Chris Wood and Dean Hammond? The answer is, of course they are. As a squad we've improved, only a fool would suggest we haven't. You'll say "we should only buy people better than those in the starting 11", well I disagree before you even start with that. Yeah, in an ideal world... but we aren't in one.

 

We overpaid for them, that's clear and we pretty much all knew that when it happened. But, premier league teams get rinsed by foreign clubs most of the time. We might not like it, but that's what happens. Even average to decent players from relegated teams like Hull go for £7 / £8m. You go on about Benalouannes stats, but someone like Chesters don't look great and he went for £8m and he's only a couple of years younger.

 

It's great to find a diamond like Kante, but we still paid a pretty penny for a totally untried player. It could easily have gone the other way like Kramaric again. We need to accept, that we're going to end up paying more than a players worth, because I can tell you now, it's only going to get worse with the new money coming in.

Also, we need to stop worrying about money, that's the accountant's job not the fans. What we should be worried about fans is having quality to step in when first team starters get injured or lose form and Inler on the bench is a situation most would kill for! Typical of people to find something to complain about

[Babylon]

Also, we need to stop worrying about money, that's the accountant's job not the fans. What we should be worried about fans is having quality to step in when first team starters get injured or lose form and Inler on the bench is a situation most would kill for! Typical of people to find something to complain about

I'm with you to a degree, I will worry about money after what happened to us in the past... but... it's not like we're over spending wildly. It all seems to be done within budget, we're getting a mixture of ages in and not just old players.

 

If every player we buy is fantastic, they are all 21 and only cost £1m... then brilliant. But that's not going to happen.

[Bluetintedspecs]

Vardy and inler's situation are polar opposites. People wrote Vardy off because he had only a track record at a much lower level. Inler's experienced in international and champions league football.

Many wrote vardy off at the beginning because he was useless. I predicted he'd play for England at the end of the championship promotion season. People make assumptions on what they see in front of them.

And you've just confirmed the point I was making Colly whilst trying to contradict it! I was saying sometimes people jump to conclusions too quickly, that's my opinion

[m4DD0gg]

Wants out big time apparently and his agent is trying to secure a loan move back to italy in january. 

[filbertstreet]

Wants out big time apparently and his agent is trying to secure a loan move back to italy in january. 

really? figured he'd love being on the bench and never playing a game

[Brooksy]

Wants out big time apparently and his agent is trying to secure a loan move back to italy in january. 

 

Thank fcuk

[MC Prussian]

Wants out big time apparently and his agent is trying to secure a loan move back to italy in january. 

Not according to latest reports, he isn't:

http://www.espnfc.com/barclays-premier-league/match/422538/newcastle-united-leicester-city/preview

 

Also, someone somewhere in the English media world made quite an error whilst trying to translate one of the initial Italian reports:

https://www.iamnaples.it/notizie-calcio-napoli/inler-lagente-ipotesi-prestito-anche-in-italia-parlero-con-il-club/

 

The agent is quoted as saying that Italy "could be a (hypothetical) option", merely because the Italian media asked him about a return to Italy in particular.

Which comes as no surprise.

[Thracian]

I hope the agent succeeds. Nothing against Inler but i'm not sure his heart's ever left the area he came from. Either way it's just not worked out for him and doesn't look likely to. We're a high tempo team and Inler's a low-tempo footballer from everything i've seen.

People rashly compared him with Cambiasso but that lad saw the pictures so clearly and delivered a pass so quickly if it was on.

More than that he was such an inspiring and galvanising player. People had such a belief in him...and what a commitment he seemed to have for the cause.           

[Wymsey]

Think he's too slow for our type of style, as well as sloppyness on the ball.

 

Think he's past his best imo.

[MC Prussian]

I hope the agent succeeds. Nothing against Inler but i'm not sure his heart's ever left the area he came from. Either way it's just not worked out for him and doesn't look likely to. We're a high tempo team and Inler's a low-tempo footballer from everything i've seen.

People rashly compared him with Cambiasso but that lad saw the pictures so clearly and delivered a pass so quickly if it was on.

More than that he was such an inspiring and galvanising player. People had such a belief in him...and what a commitment he seemed to have for the cause.           

We won't be able to maintain that speed forever and Cambiasso wasn't the fastest himself, anyway.

By this time last year, Cambiasso had also played a lot more games for a team doing much worse on the pitch.

 

Don't let your fairytale style of writing get in the way of facts - the galvanising part under Cambiasso only started towards the end of last season.

 

If Ranieri doesn't seem the necessity to disrupt the Drinkwater-Kanté partnership, then there's nothing to hold up against the manager, our current central midfield pairing or Inler.

[fuchsntf]

Dear oh dear, such short-termism here, oh if we sign a player and he's not in the 1st team straight away lets ship him out? Do you realise what a squad is for buddy? We should be happy we have these quality of players on our bench for crying out loud. We should also be happy at the form of Drinky and Kanté. Why is always black and white for some people? Lucky you're not running the club, couple of injuries and we'd be playing the under 21s

Spot on. .....Some just dont get it do they..

Any 2 -4 get injured, we would be out on a limb, with no EXPERIENCED back-up.

Hindsight is a great thing, but our scouts and management team who have all been applauded

on this forum, went for these players believing they had secured players with that experience.

12 games gone, it was obvious that some would not hit the ground running immediately, plus being

aware that, King, Drinkwater, defence etc would need backup, last seasons troup had to be stocked

up. For a club with our status, and to what we were willing to pay, we havent done bad at all.

These individual player witch-hunts are unnecessary, its a good 5 months too early to analyse what

any of the players can bring over a running season.

Vardy Mahrez, Albrighton might fall off the pace.Ranieri might need to have players who can help

to change tactics, plan A to plan B or C.

In the past we had long poor runs, and we had no spare strikers like Kramaric, Ulloa, Okazaki to

turn to.same goes for other areas on the field.Now we have some experienced quality we can

turn to.Kramaric, Inler, Benny, the injured James, the loaned out Lawrence, may well need to

play their part, on a bigger scale and for longer periods than the odd game.

We need the squad, we may not have world beaters, but all have proved elswhere they 'could' eventually

play at the PL level. Too many silly comments, too early to judge or analyse.

If this was Febuary, with named on the verge players, having 6-12 games behind them, then

yes one could build up the positive or negative fair opinions.

tactics

[Thracian]

We won't be able to maintain that speed forever and Cambiasso wasn't the fastest himself, anyway.

By this time last year, Cambiasso had also played a lot more games for a team doing much worse on the pitch.

 

Don't let your fairytale style of writing get in the way of facts - the galvanising part under Cambiasso only started towards the end of last season.

 

If Ranieri doesn't seem the necessity to disrupt the Drinkwater-Kanté partnership, then there's nothing to hold up against the manager, our current central midfield pairing or Inler.

 

Can't see why we couldn't or wouldn't maintain our pace. 

And. while Cambiasso was never the fastest, his passing could be. Times he played one touch one-twos I'd never associate with Inler.

[fuchsntf]

By definition? What on earth are you talking about.

 

Are Benalouane, Inler and Okazaki better than, say... Upson, Chris Wood and Dean Hammond? The answer is, of course they are. As a squad we've improved, only a fool would suggest we haven't. You'll say "we should only buy people better than those in the starting 11", well I disagree before you even start with that. Yeah, in an ideal world... but we aren't in one.

 

We overpaid for them, that's clear and we pretty much all knew that when it happened. But, premier league teams get rinsed by foreign clubs most of the time. We might not like it, but that's what happens. Even average to decent players from relegated teams like Hull go for £7 / £8m. You go on about Benalouannes stats, but someone like Chesters don't look great and he went for £8m and he's only a couple of years younger.

 

It's great to find a diamond like Kante, but we still paid a pretty penny for a totally untried player. It could easily have gone the other way like Kramaric again. We need to accept, that we're going to end up paying more than a players worth, because I can tell you now, it's only going to get worse with the new money coming in.

Nail on the head...an all that.

Couldnt agree more.

Then include Vardy, DD, And Mahrez, compare when they got into the 1st team then upto now, and see how much

time they needed to be accepted by some fans as 1st names on the teamsheet, and what criticism they went

through...

[ARM1968]

Don't think anyone could have expected how well Kante has done - he looks simply amazing tbf. Just needs to improve his delivery, but the guy is unreal.

Inler will get his chance as the season goes on. He is a quality player and would have been an incredible signing only a couple of seasons ago. It's football. Things happen.

[Gerard]

By definition? What on earth are you talking about.

 

Are Benalouane, Inler and Okazaki better than, say... Upson, Chris Wood and Dean Hammond? The answer is, of course they are. As a squad we've improved, only a fool would suggest we haven't. You'll say "we should only buy people better than those in the starting 11", well I disagree before you even start with that. Yeah, in an ideal world... but we aren't in one.

 

We overpaid for them, that's clear and we pretty much all knew that when it happened. But, premier league teams get rinsed by foreign clubs most of the time. We might not like it, but that's what happens. Even average to decent players from relegated teams like Hull go for £7 / £8m. You go on about Benalouannes stats, but someone like Chesters don't look great and he went for £8m and he's only a couple of years younger.

 

It's great to find a diamond like Kante, but we still paid a pretty penny for a totally untried player. It could easily have gone the other way like Kramaric again. We need to accept, that we're going to end up paying more than a players worth, because I can tell you now, it's only going to get worse with the new money coming in.

 

Of course Benalouane, Inler And Okazaki are better than Upson, Wood and Hammond but that's hardly the point, what a strange post.

 

The point is we've had to spend £15m+ net in transfer fees and God only knows what in wages to improve the quality of our reserve players, does that represent good value for money to you? By your logic we could have hijacked three random £6m deals and no doubt they would have been an improvement also on Upson, Hammond and Wood. With that logic whatever players we bought you'd be saying the same thing.

 

It's such low expectations to be happy spending £18m on players who only need to be better than our deadwood to qualify as some form of a success rather than them forcing their way into the first XI.

 

That's not good enough in my book and using James Chester and West Brom as an example of how other club's do it is unacceptable. 

 

I don't think all our signings should be a Mahrez or a Vardy but if we sign players for millions of Pounds that are at the back end of their careers and they only end up being a back up it's bad business.

[Gerard]

Spot on. .....Some just dont get it do they..

Any 2 -4 get injured, we would be out on a limb, with no EXPERIENCED back-up.

Hindsight is a great thing, but our scouts and management team who have all been applauded

on this forum, went for these players believing they had secured players with that experience.

12 games gone, it was obvious that some would not hit the ground running immediately, plus being

aware that, King, Drinkwater, defence etc would need backup, last seasons troup had to be stocked

up. For a club with our status, and to what we were willing to pay, we havent done bad at all.

These individual player witch-hunts are unnecessary, its a good 5 months too early to analyse what

any of the players can bring over a running season.

Vardy Mahrez, Albrighton might fall off the pace.Ranieri might need to have players who can help

to change tactics, plan A to plan B or C.

In the past we had long poor runs, and we had no spare strikers like Kramaric, Ulloa, Okazaki to

turn to.same goes for other areas on the field.Now we have some experienced quality we can

turn to.Kramaric, Inler, Benny, the injured James, the loaned out Lawrence, may well need to

play their part, on a bigger scale and for longer periods than the odd game.

We need the squad, we may not have world beaters, but all have proved elswhere they 'could' eventually

play at the PL level. Too many silly comments, too early to judge or analyse.

If this was Febuary, with named on the verge players, having 6-12 games behind them, then

yes one could build up the positive or negative fair opinions.

tactics

 

 

You seem to have no awareness of the financial management of the club.

 

In most circumstances we should be signing players who are good enough to replace our first team players or young players we believe will be first team players one day.

 

If we need experienced back up we should do it on the cheap, free transfers like Schwarzer, Cambiasso, Was, etc.

 

Keep the tinder dry for big money signings and don't waste money buying players who cost a small fortune and are a decaying asset just to strengthen the squad, a recipe for failure.

[MooseBreath]

£5m is pennies for a capable premier league midfielder, even if all he does all season is sit on the bench. We're not in league one anymore Gerard, we're a side with European ambitions and hundreds of millions of pounds coming in every year. Preach financial management all you like but £5m for a club in our position is loose change.

I think we hoped for more from Inler when we signed him but it hasn't worked out for him yet. We still might find him useful at some stage.

You've also got to remember we were pre-season relegation favourites. As much as we might have wanted to sign better quality players, they might not have wanted to sign for us.