dormelcfc Posted 1 November 2015 Posted 1 November 2015 We have to bear in mind that there is still a long way of the season to go. With a particularly tough set of fixtures over Christmas/New Year, we will have to utilise all of our squad. We are bound to end up with injuries at some point. It's great to have a squad with this much depth and the quality of it.
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 1 November 2015 Posted 1 November 2015 Not writing him off, far from it, but he's been very disappointing so far. Still hoping he comes good for us.
Donut Posted 1 November 2015 Posted 1 November 2015 Hes a quality player. There were times we showed a lot more patience with players who were undoubtedly shit. This guy isnt. He will adapt, and he will become a big part of the squad.
dylanlegend Posted 2 November 2015 Posted 2 November 2015 With the way Kante and Drinky are playing atm is anyone really that bothered? If he earns his place in the starting 11 fair play if he doesn't it's his own fault. Reputation counts for nothing in football esp when your 3rd in the league
EverybodyDannsNow Posted 2 November 2015 Posted 2 November 2015 If there is anything I've learnt about Leicester players over the last few years, it's to never right them off. Get off his back, he has looked poor so far but just give him some time to adjust. Even if it's not this season, he will have a part to play in this team's progression over the next 3 years. You've got to remember that he was wanted by a few decent teams in the summer, so there's a player in there somewhere of that I have no doubt
ozleicester Posted 2 November 2015 Posted 2 November 2015 Kin ell, a little time folks, its a squad game and there will be a time that we will need a quality midfielder, injuries, tiredness and form drops. We need to keep a solid SQUAD, not just sell anyone that hasnt started like a superstar.
les-tah Posted 2 November 2015 Posted 2 November 2015 He still is potentially a massive player ... It will be like a new signing when he get going ..
aussie-fox Posted 2 November 2015 Posted 2 November 2015 Very similar to theo. Good player wrong time maybe
MC Prussian Posted 2 November 2015 Posted 2 November 2015 As mentioned in the other Inler thread (which this one here could be merged with), he will get his chances. It's a tricky one for a manager: You've got this talent on the bench, but when your team is doing so well with two other central midfielders, there's no argument for disrupting that duo just for the sake of it. Inler will have to shine in training and either Drinkwater or Kanté at some point are to hit a poor run of form (as much as I don't want to wish that on anyone, it's going to happen at some point) for Gökhan Inler to make an appearance in the league again. I find it the right choice not to nominate players simply based on their name or reputation - it would send out a very dangerous message that could be the first of many to destroy the foundation upon which our team spirit is built. Gökhan Inler will have to earn the right to play for this team and I'm sure he's burning for the chance of showing what he's really got. But as long as Ranieri can rely on a more or less established formation and centre midfield pairing, he'll have to remain patient and seek his opportunities - be it as a cameo or in the FA Cup.
Thracian Posted 2 November 2015 Posted 2 November 2015 Not sure I'd want to mention Kante/Drinkwater in the same breath as Inler. Both the former have been brilliant in our cause but I can't remember one good game or part game from Inler. The Swiss international thing does nothing for me. I've played two Swiss champions in my own sport and they wouldn't have got into our Sywell club team (literally). It's too early to be definitive but Inler seems to be what I'd call a strolling footballer. Imperious on a good day so long as he's got the time perhaps but not a natural for The Premiership because he'll never get that time. Some players can adapt. They'd gee themselves up, add a bit of pace and mobility and quickly realise that one and two touches was all you're likely to get in England. Inler's not done that. And even when doing his own thing in his own way, he's been found out. As for his marking in such a vulnerable and responsible position, it's scary. Sometimes he's like a train in a siding the way he lets expresses go past him. Scholes was no natural defender either. But he was brilliant at what he did do well, and worked tirelessly on his weakness to at least do the best he could for all that he still remained a clumsy tackler. Inler doesn't seem to have the adaptability necessary to change. Perhaps he just doesn't feel happy here and would much sooner be back in the sunshine of Italy where racing around is just a quick way of getting thirsty. They say the Romans hated it here with the rain, the damp, the cold and the mist and maybe Inler's the same. Perhaps he just prefers playing in the warmth where he can dazzle like the sunshine. .
Collymore Posted 2 November 2015 Posted 2 November 2015 Personally think that it may take time but yes at some point! I will relate this thread to the hordes writing off a certain Jamie Vardy! Vardy and inler's situation are polar opposites. People wrote Vardy off because he had only a track record at a much lower level. Inler's experienced in international and champions league football. Many wrote vardy off at the beginning because he was useless. I predicted he'd play for England at the end of the championship promotion season. People make assumptions on what they see in front of them.
MC Prussian Posted 2 November 2015 Posted 2 November 2015 Not sure I'd want to mention Kante/Drinkwater in the same breath as Inler. Both the former have been brilliant in our cause but I can't remember one good game or part game from Inler. The Swiss international thing does nothing for me. I've played two Swiss champions in my own sport and they wouldn't have got into our Sywell club team (literally). It's too early to be definitive but Inler seems to be what I'd call a strolling footballer. Imperious on a good day so long as he's got the time perhaps but not a natural for The Premiership because he'll never get that time. Some players can adapt. They'd gee themselves up, add a bit of pace and mobility and quickly realise that one and two touches was all you're likely to get in England. Inler's not done that. And even when doing his own thing in his own way, he's been found out. As for his marking in such a vulnerable and responsible position, it's scary. Sometimes he's like a train in a siding the way he lets expresses go past him. Scholes was no natural defender either. But he was brilliant at what he did do well, and worked tirelessly on his weakness to at least do the best he could for all that he still remained a clumsy tackler. Inler doesn't seem to have the adaptability necessary to change. Perhaps he just doesn't feel happy here and would much sooner be back in the sunshine of Italy where racing around is just a quick way of getting thirsty. They say the Romans hated it here with the rain, the damp, the cold and the mist and maybe Inler's the same. Perhaps he just prefers playing in the warmth where he can dazzle like the sunshine. . Inler's shown glimpses of what he's capable of in his brief appearances in the league so far, but I do agree with the notion that whenever he's on the pitch, he tends to walk along instead of being "there where it hurts" (by no means am I advocating dirty tackling, by the way - and Inler's not that kind of player, anyway). Opposing players in the Premier League also give you less time on the ball, you'll often get doubled up and forced to make a decision in the blink of an eye. In that regard, he needs to work on his reaction time. I think he's been a bit spoilt by the lack of direct opposing pressure on in Italy, where they put more emphasis on tactics than spectacle. He needs more (full) games in the league for people to come to a proper conclusion about his abilities - because let's face it - only a small percentage will have ever seen him play for Switzerland, Napoli or Udinese on a regular basis. Comparing him to Scholes isn't really fair, because you'd then have to fathom what it'd have been like if Scholes had played in Italy past the age of 30. Scholes had been brought up with the English game from the start and the fortune to play in a terrific squad led and formed by a highly talented manager. And as for the "he doesn't like it in England" (my paraphrase) comment, Tony: From what I gather through the Swiss and English press, you're way off there.
Guest MattP Posted 2 November 2015 Posted 2 November 2015 Hopefully not as it would mean something has gone wrong with Drinkwater and Kante and that's a partnership I'm lapping up at the minute. He's fifth choice when James comes back.
Oxfordfox83 Posted 2 November 2015 Posted 2 November 2015 Hopefully not as it would mean something has gone wrong with Drinkwater and Kante and that's a partnership I'm lapping up at the minute. He's fifth choice when James comes back. He's fifth choice on current form, while our current choice retain their form and James comes back firing on all cylinders. He may never get a chance, but the odds would suggest he will, and given how little we've seen of him and how much the scouts will have seen, it's naive bordering on stupid to say he'll never make it for us...
eunmac Posted 2 November 2015 Posted 2 November 2015 He's clearly got to adapt to the league - including a different level of fitness. Hopefully he's working his socks off in training - I imagine he has a point to prove but he has his work cut out with Drinkwater on top form, and Kante on fire. Surprised not to have seen him on more as a sub tho'.
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 2 November 2015 Posted 2 November 2015 don't write the guy off - say we were to sell Vardy and Mahrez in Jan and Schlupp gets injured, you think we will carry on counter attacking at break neck speed? No - we will bring in Inler and Kramaric and slow things down and try to retain possession more. Things change fast in football - always important to have this kind of quality in the squad so I say hang on to him, let him adjust to the PL even if it takes a lot of time. We look likely to stay up this year so should be looking ahead at how to do a Stoke and assure our place in the PL for an extended period.
Thracian Posted 2 November 2015 Posted 2 November 2015 Inler's shown glimpses of what he's capable of in his brief appearances in the league so far, but I do agree with the notion that whenever he's on the pitch, he tends to walk along instead of being "there where it hurts" (by no means am I advocating dirty tackling, by the way - and Inler's not that kind of player, anyway). Opposing players in the Premier League also give you less time on the ball, you'll often get doubled up and forced to make a decision in the blink of an eye. In that regard, he needs to work on his reaction time. I think he's been a bit spoilt by the lack of direct opposing pressure on in Italy, where they put more emphasis on tactics than spectacle. He needs more (full) games in the league for people to come to a proper conclusion about his abilities - because let's face it - only a small percentage will have ever seen him play for Switzerland, Napoli or Udinese on a regular basis. Comparing him to Scholes isn't really fair, because you'd then have to fathom what it'd have been like if Scholes had played in Italy past the age of 30. Scholes had been brought up with the English game from the start and the fortune to play in a terrific squad led and formed by a highly talented manager. And as for the "he doesn't like it in England" (my paraphrase) comment, Tony: From what I gather through the Swiss and English press, you're way off there. Inler's shown glimpses of what he's capable of in his brief appearances in the league so far, but I do agree with the notion that whenever he's on the pitch, he tends to walk along instead of being "there where it hurts" (by no means am I advocating dirty tackling, by the way - and Inler's not that kind of player, anyway). Opposing players in the Premier League also give you less time on the ball, you'll often get doubled up and forced to make a decision in the blink of an eye. In that regard, he needs to work on his reaction time. I think he's been a bit spoilt by the lack of direct opposing pressure on in Italy, where they put more emphasis on tactics than spectacle. He needs more (full) games in the league for people to come to a proper conclusion about his abilities - because let's face it - only a small percentage will have ever seen him play for Switzerland, Napoli or Udinese on a regular basis. Comparing him to Scholes isn't really fair, because you'd then have to fathom what it'd have been like if Scholes had played in Italy past the age of 30. Scholes had been brought up with the English game from the start and the fortune to play in a terrific squad led and formed by a highly talented manager. And as for the "he doesn't like it in England" (my paraphrase) comment, Tony: From what I gather through the Swiss and English press, you're way off there. I'd say Inler's trying to play in a terrific team with a talented manager too...and finding it exceedingly difficult to make a favourable impression. Has he the character to change things round? Who knows? Vardy's adapted. Drinkwater's adapted. But it will sure take a disciplined change of thinking and a lot of determination.
wokinghamfox Posted 3 November 2015 Posted 3 November 2015 He still is potentially a massive player ... It will be like a new signing when he get going .. You sound like a glass is always half full kind of chap. Fair play to you.!☺
M0901 Posted 3 November 2015 Posted 3 November 2015 He's got the ability (proven by past clubs and captaining the Swiss), and he will come good eventually. A fair few teams were after him in the summer and I'm still buzzed we have him, when the injuries and suspensions come around I've no doubt he can do a brilliant job for us.
Plastik Man Posted 3 November 2015 Posted 3 November 2015 don't write the guy off - say we were to sell Vardy and Mahrez in Jan and Schlupp gets injured, you think we will carry on counter attacking at break neck speed? No - we will bring in Inler and Kramaric and slow things down and try to retain possession more. Things change fast in football - always important to have this kind of quality in the squad so I say hang on to him, let him adjust to the PL even if it takes a lot of time. We look likely to stay up this year so should be looking ahead at how to do a Stoke and assure our place in the PL for an extended period. This
Thracian Posted 5 November 2015 Posted 5 November 2015 I'd seriously doubt we'll sell Vardy or Mahrez in January and see no reason while we'd willingly sacrifice the style which has earned us so much success and could still be developed further. We're not run by Steptoe and Son. Our owners might not be the richest in all football but you won't find them sitting in the city's arcades with begging bowls. Okay, in the end, being businessmen, they might accept that every player has a price but our key men are all on long contracts, our owners are under no financial pressure to sell and I am quite sure they will act in our club's interests way before the temptation to "take a profit". Why? Because the more success we have the greater the value of the club's players and the brand they represent. If we can strengthen still further without selling major assets so much the better because every asset has to be replaced at the time not some time in the future...as clubs like Liverpool might readily testify. Unless it's a fire sale, there's no sense selling assets if it weakens the team and we have to build again from a lower level. Every decision has to sustain improvement and money, in itself, doesn't guarantee anything.
Guest Col city fan Posted 5 November 2015 Posted 5 November 2015 As things stand I so hope we don't have to play Inler. Our game is based upon intensity, quickness, levels of fitness. Kante and Drinkwater exemplify these traits. King does well, James will be ok too. Inler appears to be the antithesis of this. He's too slow.
goose2010 Posted 5 November 2015 Posted 5 November 2015 As things stand I so hope we don't have to play Inler. Our game is based upon intensity, quickness, levels of fitness. Kante and Drinkwater exemplify these traits. King does well, James will be ok too. Inler appears to be the antithesis of this. He's too slow. It wouldn't surprise me to see him in the team against Man Utd to do a job on Rooney. He did the same for the swiss against England and had a decent game.
MPH Posted 5 November 2015 Posted 5 November 2015 Italian football is so different to English.. Then again I thought French football was too.. And Kante is just amazing. Different type of player, though..
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