davieG Posted 20 November 2015 Posted 20 November 2015 The agent of Leicester City midfielder Gokhan Inler has told the Italian media his client may need to go out on loan in the New Year. The Swiss international only joined the Premier League in the summer from Napoli, but has struggled to hold down a place in the starting eleven. Speaking to TMW Dino Lamberti was asked if Inler's exclusion from the Leicester City team would harm his chances of being selected for the Swiss Euro 2016 squad. Lamberti said it's an issue because Inler because is the captain of his national team and wants to remain that way, and therefore will hold talks with Leicester City to discuss his future with the club. Lamberti confirmed he will discuss the possibility of Inler going out on loan in January, but suggested this wouldn’t be a permanent move because he’s contracted to Leicester City for three years. "Yes, because he is the captain of Switzerland. Soon I will talk with leaders of Leicester to discuss a possible transfer loan, because he signed last summer on a three-year contract," said Inler’s agent on the player’s future. Inler arrived from Serie A with a good reputation and over 80 international caps to his name. However, he’s made just two starts in the league this season, and has played no minutes since September.
filbertstreet Posted 20 November 2015 Posted 20 November 2015 Who calls their son dino? Must be massive flintstones fans
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 20 November 2015 Posted 20 November 2015 Strange to see the agents of Inler and Kramaric being so open about their situation but I guess that's just how it is in Europe. Instantly puts questions in the manager's mind as to how much they're bothered about forcing their way into the first team if they're going on loan at pretty much the first opportunity. On the flip side I can see why Inler needs to be playing and he's 4th choice at the moment, and will arguably slip down to 5th when MJ gets back to full fitness.
shade Posted 20 November 2015 Posted 20 November 2015 Strange to see the agents of Inler and Kramaric being so open about their situation but I guess that's just how it is in Europe. Instantly puts questions in the manager's mind as to how much they're bothered about forcing their way into the first team if they're going on loan at pretty much the first opportunity. On the flip side I can see why Inler needs to be playing and he's 4th choice at the moment, and will arguably slip down to 5th when MJ gets back to full fitness. no chance Michael Johnsons ever getting back to even quarter fitness
TheUltimateWinner Posted 20 November 2015 Posted 20 November 2015 Strange to see the agents of Inler and Kramaric being so open about their situation but I guess that's just how it is in Europe. Instantly puts questions in the manager's mind as to how much they're bothered about forcing their way into the first team if they're going on loan at pretty much the first opportunity. On the flip side I can see why Inler needs to be playing and he's 4th choice at the moment, and will arguably slip down to 5th when MJ gets back to full fitness. Hate to tell you this but I don't think he'll be putting his white glove on anytime soon...
ealingfox Posted 20 November 2015 Posted 20 November 2015 fvck him, will do us no harm to get rid, he's shite and if he would rather make a break for the exit than fight and work hard to get better at footy then we don't need him around.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 20 November 2015 Posted 20 November 2015 Hate to tell you this but I don't think he'll be putting his white glove on anytime soon... I'm gunna get a flag with Matty James moonwalking on it
goose2010 Posted 20 November 2015 Posted 20 November 2015 fvck him, will do us no harm to get rid, he's shite and if he would rather make a break for the exit than fight and work hard to get better at footy then we don't need him around. He really isn't shite, he is just being kept out of the team by two inform midfielders, surely him going out on loan shows that he wants to be playing football? cant see the issue with him going out on loan it will only help us in the long run, but either impressing and us being able to sell for a reasonable price, or he will come back sharper and break into our team. Against the big clubs it wouldn't hurt us to play him just infront of the defence.
queensguardfox Posted 20 November 2015 Posted 20 November 2015 fvck him, will do us no harm to get rid, he's shite and if he would rather make a break for the exit than fight and work hard to get better at footy then we don't need him around. Nothing to do with working hard, He needs guarantees for his international career, just very unforeseen set of circumstances regarding drinking and kante being on Fire, a loan move is likely, ready for Europa League next season .
Gerard Posted 20 November 2015 Posted 20 November 2015 A loan may be the answer for Inler but not for Leicester. He was in demand from Schalke and Besiktas if I remember correctly? For someone who is 32 in June and can't break into our first team then let him go and recover what we can on the transfer fee. I have no problem in signing younger players and allowing them time to force their way in the first team but players with their best years behind them need to be got rid of ASAP unless they hit the ground running. It's annoying signing players at about the age of 30 and they either can't get in the first team or don't improve it. If some reports are to be believed these three cost us £18m in the summer. Inler 31 Okazaki 29 Benalouane 28 I'd much rather spend that money on young, hungry, ambitious players with potential as none of the above have improved us
lgfualol Posted 20 November 2015 Posted 20 November 2015 A loan may be the answer for Inler but not for Leicester. He was in demand from Schalke and Besiktas if I remember correctly? For someone who is 32 in June and can't break into our first team then let him go and recover what we can on the transfer fee. I have no problem in signing younger players and allowing them time to force their way in the first team but players with their best years behind them need to be got rid of ASAP unless they hit the ground running. It's annoying signing players at about the age of 30 and they either can't get in the first team or don't improve it. If some reports are to be believed these three cost us £18m in the summer. Inler 31 Okazaki 29 Benalouane 28 I'd much rather spend that money on young, hungry, ambitious players with potential as none of the above have improved us Hindsight is nice. However, they could have all been doing a very good job for us. You don't know unless you sign them.
ealingfox Posted 20 November 2015 Posted 20 November 2015 He really isn't shite, he is just being kept out of the team by two inform midfielders, surely him going out on loan shows that he wants to be playing football? cant see the issue with him going out on loan it will only help us in the long run, but either impressing and us being able to sell for a reasonable price, or he will come back sharper and break into our team. Against the big clubs it wouldn't hurt us to play him just infront of the defence. He really is. He's been crap in every appearance he's made and done nothing apart from one quite nice pass to Mahrez v Spurs. He even looked off the pace against Bury ffs. How is a loan going to be of any use to us unless its to another PL Club?
TheMightySystem Posted 20 November 2015 Posted 20 November 2015 A loan may be the answer for Inler but not for Leicester. He was in demand from Schalke and Besiktas if I remember correctly? For someone who is 32 in June and can't break into our first team then let him go and recover what we can on the transfer fee. I have no problem in signing younger players and allowing them time to force their way in the first team but players with their best years behind them need to be got rid of ASAP unless they hit the ground running. It's annoying signing players at about the age of 30 and they either can't get in the first team or don't improve it. If some reports are to be believed these three cost us £18m in the summer. Inler 31 Okazaki 29 Benalouane 28 I'd much rather spend that money on young, hungry, ambitious players with potential as none of the above have improved us Tbf to Benny he has an amazing twitter profile and hasn't looked out of place at all when given the opportunity. Plus at 28 he is just coming into his prime. Okazaki is out of form atm but if he can find his form again like the way he played against sunderland and west ham then he will be a decent enough signing. Inler has showed some nice passes at times but if he is to succeed he needs to be quicker with his use of the ball. Cambiasso was so effective for us because he could smash a ball through defences without a second touch and find players instantly, something Inler hasn't adapted to yet, and might not but only time will tell.
Zapp Posted 20 November 2015 Posted 20 November 2015 A loan may be the answer for Inler but not for Leicester. He was in demand from Schalke and Besiktas if I remember correctly? For someone who is 32 in June and can't break into our first team then let him go and recover what we can on the transfer fee. I have no problem in signing younger players and allowing them time to force their way in the first team but players with their best years behind them need to be got rid of ASAP unless they hit the ground running. It's annoying signing players at about the age of 30 and they either can't get in the first team or don't improve it. If some reports are to be believed these three cost us £18m in the summer. Inler 31 Okazaki 29 Benalouane 28 I'd much rather spend that money on young, hungry, ambitious players with potential as none of the above have improved us Maybe these arrivals have inspired others to up their game, or maybe they are being a good influence in training and improving the younger players that could be our future.
Gerard Posted 20 November 2015 Posted 20 November 2015 Hindsight is nice. However, they could have all been doing a very good job for us. You don't know unless you sign them. Actually without blowing my own trumpet I was wary of these signings before they signed. I haven't watched any of them at length but I judged them on their profiles. The signings I wanted us to make in the summer that we linked with were 1. Aranguiz and 2. Kante and the rest I was very dubious of. Aranguiz was quoted as being the best player currently playing in South America. Tim Vickery raved about him and said quality wise you wouldn't know the difference between him and Chile team mates in MF of Vidal of Bayern Munich and Sanchez of Arsenal. Kante was young, athletic and made more tackles and interceptions than anyone in the top European leagues. He was looked at by Arsenal and wanted by Marseille for a highly respected coach in Bielsa who demands a work ethic from his players. Inler was 31 and I'm usually dubious of a player's motivation and quality when taking a step down in their career. Benalouane had been transferred for £1m the season before and was rated one of the worst player in Serie A by Opta that season and we buy him for £5.6m. If he was young I could possibly overlook this but he was 28. Also there was a French lad who had seen him play for his French team and said he was ordinary. Okazaki was 29 and played Bundesliga mid table at best. I looked at him as a player and seen someone who was okay but wasn't particularly good in the air, tricky or quick. I did get it wrong with Kramaric though and he was a signing I was very excited about based on his profile. Wanted by top European clubs, young from a country with great footballing pedigree and scored goals by the bucket load.
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 20 November 2015 Posted 20 November 2015 A loan may be the answer for Inler but not for Leicester. He was in demand from Schalke and Besiktas if I remember correctly? For someone who is 32 in June and can't break into our first team then let him go and recover what we can on the transfer fee. I have no problem in signing younger players and allowing them time to force their way in the first team but players with their best years behind them need to be got rid of ASAP unless they hit the ground running. It's annoying signing players at about the age of 30 and they either can't get in the first team or don't improve it. If some reports are to be believed these three cost us £18m in the summer. Inler 31 Okazaki 29 Benalouane 28 I'd much rather spend that money on young, hungry, ambitious players with potential as none of the above have improved us Dear oh dear, such short-termism here, oh if we sign a player and he's not in the 1st team straight away lets ship him out? Do you realise what a squad is for buddy? We should be happy we have these quality of players on our bench for crying out loud. We should also be happy at the form of Drinky and Kanté. Why is always black and white for some people? Lucky you're not running the club, couple of injuries and we'd be playing the under 21s
lcfc old boy Posted 20 November 2015 Posted 20 November 2015 Will he ever get another opportunity?? Kante and Fuchs look the real deal do you think he is too ?? he will need to adjust to the pace of the game cambiasso was very good at playing a quick pass and then making an extra yard for himself for the return,he may need to look at a few videos of that,but we should give him time.
Gerard Posted 20 November 2015 Posted 20 November 2015 Maybe these arrivals have inspired others to up their game, or maybe they are being a good influence in training and improving the younger players that could be our future. I think that's a bit of a cop out if I'm honest. It may be the case but would Drinkwater and Kante be less motivated without Inler here or Huth and Morgan without Benalouane? Don't laugh but I've played Championship Manager in my time but the principles are the same. Only buy players that are better than what you have or young players who will likely be better than what you have at some point. Buying players who are at their peak of their abilities and still not good enough for the first XI is a recipe for failure and decline. I'd have much rather invested that money on 21 year olds with quality and a highly motivated to succeed. A hell of a lot easier said than done but you get my point.
Babylon Posted 20 November 2015 Posted 20 November 2015 I'd have much rather invested that money on 21 year olds with quality and a highly motivated to succeed. A hell of a lot easier said than done but you get my point. That's great in theory, but where would we have been last season without say Huth or Cambiasso, whose experience was much needed. Even when we came out of the championship, signing a few older heads like Was helped the team no end. Look at the squad that lost to Watford, and dropped off that season. It was incredibly young and people said it was probably too young. You need a mixture of players, so long as we're also still trying for the likes of Kante I don't see the problem. It's a long old season, those we've signed will probably get a chance at some point. If they don't then who cares, it means we've done ok and we've kept a fit squad. Ideally spending that money you'd hope they all make an instant impact, but it doesn't always work out... even on young and hungry players (Kram).
Gerard Posted 20 November 2015 Posted 20 November 2015 That's great in theory, but where would we have been last season without say Huth or Cambiasso, whose experience was much needed. Even when we came out of the championship, signing a few older heads like Was helped the team no end. Look at the squad that lost to Watford, and dropped off that season. It was incredibly young and people said it was probably too young. You need a mixture of players, so long as we're also still trying for the likes of Kante I don't see the problem. It's a long old season, those we've signed will probably get a chance at some point. If they don't then who cares, it means we've done ok and we've kept a fit squad. Ideally spending that money you'd hope they all make an instant impact, but it doesn't always work out... even on young and hungry players (Kram). I agree but Cambiasso and Huth (at the time) cost us nothing. I wasn't Cambiasso's biggest fan but he done great for us. His legs had gone and I felt we suffered in a two man MF with his lack of physicality but as a talisman he was brilliant for us. I only wanted to resign him in the summer because with James out our MF options were DD, King and Hammond and it looked horribly weak. I really wanted us to sign Aranguiz and Kante to be our MF so I was happy enough but not ecstatic to get Inler in as at the time Aranguiz, Kante and Cambiasso hadn't signed. DD has turned into the player we thought Inler would be for us so now I'd be happy enough to let Inler go in January. His stock won't be getting any higher and we have James coming back so he's not earning his corn at Leicester. Huth came on loan in January and looked a world beater when he was here on loan so signing him was a priority in the summer as we were buying proven quality. Benalouane looked an awful buy to me on paper but to be fair to him he's looked quite decent in his last few appearances. We could easily have took on a young up and coming centre half as we have loads of experience in this position with three players in their 30's in Huth, Wes and Was. Okazaki didn't look a great buy either at 29 as his stock wasn't rising and on the face of it looked no better and a similar quality to what we already had here. So in short we could have took on young players as a striker and central defender but Inler probably was a considered a good buy at the time.
Guest ttfn Posted 20 November 2015 Posted 20 November 2015 How was Okazaki not "better than what we had" on the face of it? None of our strikers had scored 15 goals in a top European league before. "On the face of it" (ie for somebody with no clue about him, which lets face it was probably 99% of us) he was clearly better than what we had, you can't go and re-write history because you don't like the very important job he does for us now. As for Inler I've admired him as a player for ages and it's a shame it's not worked out so far but we've got to keep him if we can. Drinkwater's form is unlikely to last all season and there will be games against the bigger sides where we need Inler's experience. He's not a crap player, he's a very good player playing poorly in a new environment.
Gerard Posted 20 November 2015 Posted 20 November 2015 How was Okazaki not "better than what we had" on the face of it? None of our strikers had scored 15 goals in a top European league before. "On the face of it" (ie for somebody with no clue about him, which lets face it was probably 99% of us) he was clearly better than what we had, you can't go and re-write history because you don't like the very important job he does for us now. As for Inler I've admired him as a player for ages and it's a shame it's not worked out so far but we've got to keep him if we can. Drinkwater's form is unlikely to last all season and there will be games against the bigger sides where we need Inler's experience. He's not a crap player, he's a very good player playing poorly in a new environment. How was Okazaki not "better than what we had" on the face of it? None of our strikers had scored 15 goals in a top European league before. "On the face of it" (ie for somebody with no clue about him, which lets face it was probably 99% of us) he was clearly better than what we had, you can't go and re-write history because you don't like the very important job he does for us now. As for Inler I've admired him as a player for ages and it's a shame it's not worked out so far but we've got to keep him if we can. Drinkwater's form is unlikely to last all season and there will be games against the bigger sides where we need Inler's experience. He's not a crap player, he's a very good player playing poorly in a new environment. I looked at Okazaki on youtube and made that conclusion. I consider the Bundesliga to be weaker than the PL as the budgets are a lot less so it's slightly easier to succeed in Germany. Okazaki was 29 so was probably not going to get any better and I think to succeed at the highest level you need to be outstanding in one area like in the air, pace, dribbling, etc. I couldn't see one thing Okazaki was outstanding in. I looked at our strikers and was happy to get rid of Nugent and Wood. Of the others I thought Kramaric would come on and make that position his own, Vardy was lightening quick and towards the end of the season it seemed to click for him and Ulloa was a big lump who knew where the net was. When I compared him to Ulloa it wasn't favourable to Okazaki. http://www.squawka.com/comparison-matrix#bundesliga/2014/2015/shinji_okazaki/129/129/2354/92/p|premier_league/2014/2015/leonardo_ulloa/165/126/10242/0/p|premier_league/2014/2015/jamie_vardy/165/126/10705/0/p#goals_scored/assists/chances_created/key_passes#90 I concluded in buying Okazaki we were getting a decent striker but not one who is better than what we already had here so in conclusion buying a 29 year old for £7m who is not an upgrade on what we had here isn't going to be good business and a sound investment for us.
MC Prussian Posted 20 November 2015 Posted 20 November 2015 A loan may be the answer for Inler but not for Leicester. He was in demand from Schalke and Besiktas if I remember correctly? For someone who is 32 in June and can't break into our first team then let him go and recover what we can on the transfer fee. I have no problem in signing younger players and allowing them time to force their way in the first team but players with their best years behind them need to be got rid of ASAP unless they hit the ground running. It's annoying signing players at about the age of 30 and they either can't get in the first team or don't improve it. If some reports are to be believed these three cost us £18m in the summer. Inler 31 Okazaki 29 Benalouane 28 I'd much rather spend that money on young, hungry, ambitious players with potential as none of the above have improved us How do you improve a Leicester City FC that already sits in 3rd place in the Premier League? Your logic baffles me.
MC Prussian Posted 20 November 2015 Posted 20 November 2015 Actually without blowing my own trumpet I was wary of these signings before they signed. I haven't watched any of them at length but I judged them on their profiles. The signings I wanted us to make in the summer that we linked with were 1. Aranguiz and 2. Kante and the rest I was very dubious of. Aranguiz was quoted as being the best player currently playing in South America. Tim Vickery raved about him and said quality wise you wouldn't know the difference between him and Chile team mates in MF of Vidal of Bayern Munich and Sanchez of Arsenal. Kante was young, athletic and made more tackles and interceptions than anyone in the top European leagues. He was looked at by Arsenal and wanted by Marseille for a highly respected coach in Bielsa who demands a work ethic from his players. Inler was 31 and I'm usually dubious of a player's motivation and quality when taking a step down in their career. Benalouane had been transferred for £1m the season before and was rated one of the worst player in Serie A by Opta that season and we buy him for £5.6m. If he was young I could possibly overlook this but he was 28. Also there was a French lad who had seen him play for his French team and said he was ordinary. Okazaki was 29 and played Bundesliga mid table at best. I looked at him as a player and seen someone who was okay but wasn't particularly good in the air, tricky or quick. I did get it wrong with Kramaric though and he was a signing I was very excited about based on his profile. Wanted by top European clubs, young from a country with great footballing pedigree and scored goals by the bucket load. The same Aranguiz who got injured almost instantly upon his arrival at Leverkusen and is likely to miss a large part of this season? Hindsight is indeed a wonderful thing, but it is the way it is right now. We're on fire with Kanté and Drinkwater in the middle and Ranieri doesn't look like he's going to switch formations just for the sake of it anytime soon. You can't fault anybody in this situation, neither Inler, Ranieri, the club, Kanté or Drinkwater - who'd thought we'd be sitting that high up in the table in the second year upon promotion? Short-termism like yours has a place off the pitch, but I'm equally glad you're not in a position to run this club.
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