ramboacdc Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 Any televised game is high profile enough. I've often thought that Premier League games watched all over the world could be an easy target for extremists. Even at the King Power, there's over 30,000 people in a very small place. The death toll could easily exceed that of 9/11. I'm in a cheery mood this morning. that is if someone could get through security and blow themselves/a device up. my mrs cant get in the KP without having her handbag turned inside out so unless there was a catastrohic attack that literally destroyed the foundations of one of the long stands i cannot see that happening. and it would need a bomb bigger than the ones used currently. i do take your point 30k+ is a lot of people but i cant see it being more than the 2,977 (dont count the hijackers) in the 9/11 attacks.
Bayfox Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 that is if someone could get through security and blow themselves/a device up. my mrs cant get in the KP without having her handbag turned inside out so unless there was a catastrohic attack that literally destroyed the foundations of one of the long stands i cannot see that happening. and it would need a bomb bigger than the ones used currently. i do take your point 30k+ is a lot of people but i cant see it being more than the 2,977 (dont count the hijackers) in the 9/11 attacks. Bags yes, but unless they up searches after this event, I couldn't tell you the last time i got searched entering sk1, I could have bunged a few pryos down my socks for the last 3 or 4 years, i could walk in wearing a vest strapped with explosive, only at away games do i seem to get checked. It seems the only bit of research or error of judgement these guys made, was getting to the stadium late, or getting searched, if they had waited till 10 mins before the end of the game, you can just walk back in the exit gate at the KP for example, no problem.
Larry_LCFC Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 I have a friend who is in Leics Police and if anything like Paris happened in this country outside of London and Birmingham the force couldn't cope, not enough man power. There are hardly any trained armed police in leicester either, its a grouped midlands force with most based in the West mids. Worrying, especially given all the cuts ahead. Leicestershire is grouped with Lincs, Notts, Derbs and Northants now apparently under this new "east midlands" force thing. If what you hear is true, think all 5 counties put together wouldnt have enough armed cops to deal with a major terrorist incident.
danny. Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 I completely understand that point of view, and I guess you have to way up the potential loss of one life against the loss of many. I would also like to hope we have a little more sense than the americans, seems they have a gun culture way beyond ours. I also plan to spend most my life if at all possible not having a police marksman stood aiming at me. Unless they start shooting at speeding drivers. I have seen so many videos (amazing things are caught on video and nothing happens!) of US cops shooting or killing people in other ways when they have no gun or are doing nothing wrong, in one I saw the murdered man just didn't move out of the way (he wasn't obligated to do so) quick enough so two cops got out, shot him several times, and then drove off. If one is black the chances of being murdered by police seem to go up hugely. We already have armed police on the street Yes true, it's not common place though, you don't see i.e. around the KP a load of police with automatic weapons.
ramboacdc Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 Bags yes, but unless they up searches after this event, I couldn't tell you the last time i got searched entering sk1, I could have bunged a few pryos down my socks for the last 3 or 4 years, i could walk in wearing a vest strapped with explosive, only at away games do i seem to get checked. It seems the only bit of research or error of judgement these guys made, was getting to the stadium late, or getting searched, if they had waited till 10 mins before the end of the game, you can just walk back in the exit gate at the KP for example, no problem. trust me, you can spot someone wearing a suicide vest. it isnt like in homeland. on your person you could not carry anything to do a wide scale attack. cant fit an assult rifle down your trousers without walking funny.
GingerrrFox Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 Not being funny but in our ground for example I feel you would definitely be able to spot someone doing something suspicious and definitely a face that didn't fit as you get to see the same faces week in and week out in your section. Anything raising red flags and causing suspicion to me and I would **** someone up. These days you can't be too careful.
Bayfox Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 trust me, you can spot someone wearing a suicide vest. it isnt like in homeland. on your person you could not carry anything to do a wide scale attack. cant fit an assult rifle down your trousers without walking funny. As maybe, but they believe the plan at the stade de france was to cause mass panic forcing people to flee outside the stadium where further attacks could happen, I accept it is very unlikely, but even a small amount of explosive would not be difficult to get into the KP in my experience, during the winter, with my layers on, my top half looks like I missed leg day, but I never get searched. I do doubt that the KP is high on a list of terrorist targets and in general we should carry on our daily routines and not let them win, however any deterrant can not be a bad thing.
ramboacdc Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 As maybe, but they believe the plan at the stade de france was to cause mass panic forcing people to flee outside the stadium where further attacks could happen, I accept it is very unlikely, but even a small amount of explosive would not be difficult to get into the KP in my experience, during the winter, with my layers on, my top half looks like I missed leg day, but I never get searched. I do doubt that the KP is high on a list of terrorist targets and in general we should carry on our daily routines and not let them win, however any deterrant can not be a bad thing. i heard this and i believe the french authorities did the right thing. keep the fans out the loop, keep playing and it stops a stampede. if it does happen thats the example to follow.
Bayfox Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 i heard this and i believe the french authorities did the right thing. keep the fans out the loop, keep playing and it stops a stampede. if it does happen thats the example to follow. They would need to at our place, seems to take forever to get out the kop at the end of the game, i'm convinced most people in other parts of the ground are half way home before i even get off the back row, an evacuation of our ground would take ages!!!
ramboacdc Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 They would need to at our place, seems to take forever to get out the kop at the end of the game, i'm convinced most people in other parts of the ground are half way home before i even get off the back row, an evacuation of our ground would take ages!!! an evactuation of any ground would take ages. however in the case of emergency the stewards will jump into action with the police and dictate the pace. at the end of a game however its just "right...everyone out, we dont care how!"
Langley Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 They would need to at our place, seems to take forever to get out the kop at the end of the game, i'm convinced most people in other parts of the ground are half way home before i even get off the back row, an evacuation of our ground would take ages!!! I agree with this. I think it wouldn't be as difficult as people are making it out to be. Man city at home or Man united live on sky sports, an assault rifle firing onto the pitch and then into the stands is my worry. Smuggle it in a wheelchair or making it look like part of something normal. Assemble it in the toilets and they'd be on the pitch before most would react.
notnow john Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 Think we're safe,they wouldn't get much publicity attacking the King Power. Might get a mention on BBC East Midlands. Unless Harry Kane was playing of course.
Hungry Hungry Fox Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 I see that the terrorists are having their desired effect, judging by this stupid thread
filbertstreet Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 Never seen a policeman with no arms before
Larry_LCFC Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 I see that the terrorists are having their desired effect, judging by this stupid threadExactly. These idiots want us to live in fear. The worst thing you can do is give into them. Bollocks to having armed police anywhere near the KP and Bollocks to them thinking they will change how we live. Increased searches yes, anything else they can keep.
danny. Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 Exactly. These idiots want us to live in fear. The worst thing you can do is give into them. Bollocks to having armed police anywhere near the KP and Bollocks to them thinking they will change how we live. Increased searches yes, anything else they can keep. Agree, as long as those searches are not based on racial profiling
tom27111 Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 I'm not sure it's fear. It's a valid point. I travel to London a lot, it doesn't bother me. If you're going to get blown up, so be it. I just live my life normally. Just good to know that precautions are in place to minimise the risk. That's just the world we live in nowadays.
Xen Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 France/Germany was almost certainly targeted because it's two of the most prominent Western countries in the world and the French PM was in attendance. I strongly doubt we'll see a similar attack at the KP. Wembley and other major stadia may well be at risk, though.
tom27111 Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 France/Germany was almost certainly targeted because it's two of the most prominent Western countries in the world and the French PM was in attendance. I strongly doubt we'll see a similar attack at the KP. Wembley and other major stadia may well be at risk, though. They don't care who they kill though. Why a theatre with a rock band playing? Why a suicide bomb in Beirut? Some mentalist even tried to drive a car into Glasgow airport! I'm not saying that we or any other club in Europe would be targeted. Wherever there is a large crowd of people, it's a potential risk. Sporting events are fairly unique in that aspect. If you've got some nutter adamant on killing himself, you'll never be 100% safe. I can imagine sniffer dogs bought in as a deterrent, but if they want to blow themselves up, you'll struggle to stop them.
Kitchandro Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 Time to leave this country if we are going to have soldiers and police with guns on the streets Why? Would rather have precautions than something awful happen. If that means armed police so be it. But no, I don't see Leicester as an ISIS target. There might be a small group of nutters who could try something but not something big scale like that.
Livid Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 They don't care who they kill though. Why a theatre with a rock band playing? Why a suicide bomb in Beirut? Some mentalist even tried to drive a car into Glasgow airport! I'm not saying that we or any other club in Europe would be targeted. Wherever there is a large crowd of people, it's a potential risk. Sporting events are fairly unique in that aspect. If you've got some nutter adamant on killing himself, you'll never be 100% safe. I can imagine sniffer dogs bought in as a deterrent, but if they want to blow themselves up, you'll struggle to stop them. I have to agree with this, they attacked at a concert with a band/venue few of us had ever even heard of, what is to stop them attacking a football club/ground which isn't a household name. They don't care about anything but a body count and the fear it creates.
Detroit Blues Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 I'm sure the police are prepared for these types of situations. You might not see them armed patrolling the streets, but i think it's naive to think that they don't have a planned response in case of a terrorist attack.
possiblygeorge Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 I'm sure ISIS have 'bigger fish to fry' in their pathetic schemes rather than attacking a sports venue, alone
steveherbe Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 Security at the KP has to tighten up. Times we have walked in there hours before kick off, unchallenged. Put our flags up, then stuffed our backpacks under a seat and gone down the pub! Can't be allowed to happen in the future.
Guest MattP Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 Agree, as long as those searches are not based on racial profiling Yes, it's absolutely imperative we have police searching thousands of Chinese pensioners for suicide bombs. You would almost think we are dealing with life and death the way some people are going on. I would be very surprised if we were a target though, these things tend to revolve around major cities or venues, if one of these hits you would imagine the target would be Wembley or an Old Trafford.
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