Gokhan Inler

[Babylon]

Kante has though and it didn't take him long. Inler's an international captain. People shouldn't have to make excuses for him.

And people shouldn't come out with total and utter bullshit that seemingly expects all players to settle at exactly the same rate. If they didn't, people wouldn't need to point out the basic fact of life that people are different.

He might end up just being crap, or not being suited to the league, or he and his family might never settle. But being an international captain doesn't stop you from having issues.

How can you compare any player and how they settle. Does Kante have a wife and kids at home, does he have a kid crying himself to sleep about missing friends etc. you just don't know what goes on in people's lives to even try and say "oh well x settled instantly so should he".

[Thracian]

And people shouldn't come out with total and utter bullshit that seemingly expects all players to settle at exactly the same rate. If they didn't, people wouldn't need to point out the basic fact of life that people are different.

He might end up just being crap, or not being suited to the league, or he and his family might never settle. But being an international captain doesn't stop you from having issues.

How can you compare any player and how they settle. Does Kante have a wife and kids at home, does he have a kid crying himself to sleep about missing friends etc. you just don't know what goes on in people's lives to even try and say "oh well x settled instantly so should he".

 

 

Agree in the main so why put someone in the team 'til they are settled and why would their rustiness if they do play give licence for people to pretend they're playing well and justifying taking someone else's place, when clearly they're not?

Our Under 21 team (with permitted senior places) supposedly has facility for bringing people up to scratch but doesn't actually seem to serve much purpose at all because youngsters go out on loan, seniors don't get to play the regular football that would actually help them and, perhaps worse than that, there's little or no consistency to the team which hardly helps a player to settle in a footballing sense.

Training sessions don't do the job because those who played in the past first team game are hardly likely to want intensive football in the days straight after, so the periphery players end up with no purposeful football and increasingly miserable especially when concerned about their International prospects as well.   

I didn't see too much wrong with the old reserves team structure if applied consistently and as a mirror of the first team, but in the era of high wages and big egos, or big insurance premiums plus security and other considerations, that sort of competition seems unwelcome for all that it could likely serve the fringe players well.  

It all points to smaller squads yet the Premiership clubs have money to burn so that's not likely either.

All that's certain is that more and more high quality, high earning footballers will be sitting on the sidelines every weekend, denied the opportunity to maintain their sharpness and their entertainment value largely denied to the public except in the increasingly devalued cup games.

Perhaps cup football needs to be re-structured to ensure more games for the largely under-used squad members. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

Does anyone on here call it as they don't see it?

 

[Thracian]

Does anyone on here call it as they don't see it?

 

 

 

 

I'll like to agree but some seem to be promoters rather than analysers. I particularly remember the group who came on here declaring that Kaebi should be in our first team. I'd doubt many had ever seen Kaebi play for our club even on television.        

[Webbo]

And people shouldn't come out with total and utter bullshit that seemingly expects all players to settle at exactly the same rate. If they didn't, people wouldn't need to point out the basic fact of life that people are different.

He might end up just being crap, or not being suited to the league, or he and his family might never settle. But being an international captain doesn't stop you from having issues.

How can you compare any player and how they settle. Does Kante have a wife and kids at home, does he have a kid crying himself to sleep about missing friends etc. you just don't know what goes on in people's lives to even try and say "oh well x settled instantly so should he".

He's an experienced international, the captain of his country, he shouldn't need molly coddling. Especially with the money he's on.

[Guest Col city fan]

He's an experienced international, the captain of his country, he shouldn't need molly coddling. Especially with the money he's on.

In the world of a number of posters on here, he does.

Of course, if he HAD come in and looked great straightaway, they'd have expected that too. 'He's class and a great signing'.....etc

[sphericalfox]

In the world of a number of posters on here, he does.

Of course, if he HAD come in and looked great straightaway, they'd have expected that too. 'He's class and a great signing'.....etc

 

like a bad penny.

[Guest Col city fan]

like a bad penny.

lol

[RedSoxUK]

I'll like to agree but some seem to be promoters rather than analysers. I particularly remember the group who came on here declaring that Kaebi should be in our first team. I'd doubt many had ever seen Kaebi play for our club even on television.        

 

I saw Kaebi play, Hull Away, whole trip was shit.

[Vardinio'sCat]

In the world of a number of posters on here, he does.

Of course, if he HAD come in and looked great straightaway, they'd have expected that too. 'He's class and a great signing'.....etc

 

With that, my discussion of Inler will cease.

 

Just sayin 

[Babylon]

He's an experienced international, the captain of his country, he shouldn't need molly coddling. Especially with the money he's on.

 

Are you just being obtuse, or do you really think what money someone earns, or them wearing an armband every now and again protects them from being a human being? Where exactly have I said he needs molly coddling, what goes for him goes for every player.... before making any long term judgement you need to let them bed in.

 

The point is very simple, people are different, have different personalities have different pressures, have had different experiences, are used to different things. You cannot say x did x, so y should do it also... it's perhaps one of the most ridiculous notions I have ever read on here. Especially when there are numerous recent examples such as Vardy of someone taking their time to grow in to their new surroundings.

 

I don't want to confuse things here, I'm not making excuses for Inler. He could turn out to just not being suited to playing here, but you cannot just brush over things like a settling in period like Col wanted to.

[HoustonFox]

Are you just being obtuse, or do you really think what money someone earns, or them wearing an armband every now and again protects them from being a human being? Where exactly have I said he needs molly coddling, what goes for him goes for every player.... before making any long term judgement you need to let them bed in.

 

The point is very simple, people are different, have different personalities have different pressures, have had different experiences, are used to different things. You cannot say x did x, so y should do it also... it's perhaps one of the most ridiculous notions I have ever read on here. Especially when there are numerous recent examples such as Vardy of someone taking their time to grow in to their new surroundings.

 

I don't want to confuse things here, I'm not making excuses for Inler. He could turn out to just not being suited to playing here, but you cannot just brush over things like a settling in period like Col wanted to.

Watching Webbo and Babs argue is like seeing my parents fight... Think of the children!!

[ronnup]

So many short sighted people. Some of the Premier League's best ever players were indifferent at best in their first season. Drogba, Henry...

We need to have faith in players and give them a real chance. Inler showed at times what he's capable of the other day, and will again.

[Webbo]

Are you just being obtuse, or do you really think what money someone earns, or them wearing an armband every now and again protects them from being a human being? Where exactly have I said he needs molly coddling, what goes for him goes for every player.... before making any long term judgement you need to let them bed in.

 

The point is very simple, people are different, have different personalities have different pressures, have had different experiences, are used to different things. You cannot say x did x, so y should do it also... it's perhaps one of the most ridiculous notions I have ever read on here. Especially when there are numerous recent examples such as Vardy of someone taking their time to grow in to their new surroundings.

 

I don't want to confuse things here, I'm not making excuses for Inler. He could turn out to just not being suited to playing here, but you cannot just brush over things like a settling in period like Col wanted to.

I'm not saying he won't turn out to be a great asset to the side either but when you're being paid £40k+ a week you can't wait 3 months until you become useful. If I do a crap job at work I don't get paid, I can't say "the kids were crying last night" and just assume that makes it alright.

[MPH]

The problem with inler and Benny is that our team is reading a bit like a game of football manager. We have so many good players that some are going to miss out. And those players are never going to be able to find form properly because those already here are playing regularly and are on form.

However we should definitely ask them which international team mates they would recommend.

[Babylon]

I'm not saying he won't turn out to be a great asset to the side either but when you're being paid £40k+ a week you can't wait 3 months until you become useful. If I do a crap job at work I don't get paid, I can't say "the kids were crying last night" and just assume that makes it alright.

Why can't you? These players sign 3/4 year contracts, not three or six months ones. 

 

As I've mentioned before on this topic, there are plenty of quotes out there with a bit of digging from premier league managers who talk about a bedding in period is needed, Wenger I think it was said it can take a good 6 months before you start seeing the real player.

 

You would hope people hit the ground running, especially more experienced players. But it can depend on a huge number of factors some footballing and some not. From what league you came from, to whether you have kids, to just how you are made as a person.

 

 

If I do a crap job at work I don't get paid, I can't say "the kids were crying last night" and just assume that makes it alright.

Come on, you telling me if you moved jobs, took your family to another country etc you'd get absolutely no leeway from your work if you or they were having a hard time adapting? If your work valued you and thougth you were capable of doing a good job for them (the reason they got you), they would support you and help you through an issues and give you time.

 

Also, you have to factor in that on the footballing side he's only likely to acclimatise to the style of football over here by playing more often. Shinji was written off by a large number on here and it seems to have taken him a good few months to start showing what he can do, and that was with playing every game.

 

Second half of the season he needs to step it up of course, as eventually you have to say enough is enough if there is no improvement... but the last few I think he has been better. Another FA cup game so close will be good for him and all the other squad members who aren't playing much.

[Giggsy77]

MBS Sport

Leicester City midfielder, Gokhan Inler could still complete a loan move to Schalke this month. #LCFC #FCS04

[Countryfox]

MBS Sport

Leicester City midfielder, Gokhan Inler could still complete a loan move to Schalke this month. #LCFC #FCS04

Not sure about that now. Inler is slowly improving and it might leave us a bit short in this area even with Matty coming back. Probably just a load of bolox unless CR has got his beady eye on someone else or Inler wants out.

[Webbo]

I'm sure read somewhere last night, probably on the forum, that Ranieri bought him thinking we were going to play 3 at the back and that now he doesn't have a role for him. The point was if he wanted to go out on loan to get some games in the run up to the Euros he wouldn't stop him.

[goose2010]

If we stay in the cup keep him, if we go out send him on loan if he wants to go.

[STUHILL]

I think we need to keep him until the summer. He showed glimmers of his quality in the cup and has another full 90mins on Wednesday against a good side.

 

If Drinkwater or Kante gets injured/suspended then he will be needed as King can be hit or miss and it's a lot to ask of James to fill that void after a serious injury.

 

Considering he hasn't played much at all, I must say his attitude from what I can see, has been first class. Always seems to be enjoying the team's success and no sign of sulking on the bench or in the media. 

 

Keep him and hopefully we have a good cup run to keep him sharp

[Thracian]

i'd be happy to keep Inler. To say King is "hit and miss" given Inler's performances is a bit insulting to a guy who's been immense for us on countless occasions. The day Inler can see and deliver a pass as quickly and consistently as King I'll be impressed but at least the Swiss has looked capable of making a contribution of late and if, by some strange twist of fate, we have a cup run we're going to need most all of our regular squad.     

[Babylon]

I'm sure read somewhere last night, probably on the forum, that Ranieri bought him thinking we were going to play 3 at the back and that now he doesn't have a role for him. The point was if he wanted to go out on loan to get some games in the run up to the Euros he wouldn't stop

him.

Could very well be true

[Vardinio'sCat]

I'm sure read somewhere last night, probably on the forum, that Ranieri bought him thinking we were going to play 3 at the back and that now he doesn't have a role for him. The point was if he wanted to go out on loan to get some games in the run up to the Euros he wouldn't stop him.

 

Saw this too, think it was in the Mercury, but not sure.. You do need mobile CM's for a 442. Could Inler do it? Maybe, but with DD, Kante and LCFC doing so well, he has not had much chance to get up to speed.

 

The strange thing is that something similar could have happened to Cambiasso, if he had stayed and Claudio had still gone 442. Can you imagine the fuss if CR had Estaban on the bench for most of the time!

 

In a way, we are lucky Cambiasso went. 

[Countryfox]

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In a way, we are lucky Cambiasso went. 

That's a new one !