How does Leicester become a 'big club'

[esoog]

We should keep buying young talent and developing young talent. Soon as we started buying senior players to compete with one another for places, got us in trouble. Ruined the chemistry. Too short sighted 

[Spudulike]

Can someone please define 'Big Club'. All discussion is futile unless we know what it means.

[Raw Dykes]

I think scouting and youth development are the key. If you invest in these, then you can keep digging up great players for very little money who can either be part of the team or be sold on for a big profit. Our youth side is rubbish at the moment. Why is this? If I was a billionaire owner of a football club, the first thing I'd do is make sure I've got the best scouting network available, and the best academy I could afford.

[STUHILL]

2 minutes ago, AmarteyAndChill said:

No one would have complained if we had the same back 4 at the start of this season. It's just a shame they've been crap.

I agree but I do think we all saw that we needed to do more in the summer to cover an ageing back 4. I thought we would be fine with them for another season too, but I think missing out on players like Keane and perhaps not targeting others like that, was a big mistake and certainly hasnt helped us. Pretty sure he won't consider us now, even if we do stay up. 

 

Last year was a freak. These players didn't all suddenly become top Premier League players. I think for the sake of upsetting a few of them, we should have brought in better players, not just cover.

 

I think the owners, management and even some fans all got caught up in the fairytale and why not, but I just wish someone at the club had thought more about the mid to longer term and our ability to ever be able to be such an attractive prospect again. Everyone knew we would not repeat the same success or be in the Champions League again, so why didn't we take full advantage of that and really go out and be aggressive in the transfer market, overspend if needed and take our one opportunity to jump ahead of 2/3rds of the Premier League teams. 

 

I honestly believe we could have attracted and brought in 4-5 top players in the summer, all who would have not considered us before and won't again now. It would have cost us yes, but we could have gone from a team mostly full of Championship/Lower Prem players, to a spine of a team full of top international talent that could set us up to be another "Everton" type club who would be comfortably in the top half of the table for the next few seasons at least. 

[Mike Oxlong]

With being a "Big Club" comes big expectations.

 

Give me our one wonderful, impossible, against all odds title over 10 titles but being a fan of a club such as Man U or Chelsea or Man City. 

 

 

[Matt]

Build on last season.

 

Sign players using the carrot from being Premier League Champions, Champions League in the summer....Oh we fucked that up didn't we.

 

Kick on from last season, stable but challenging higher up the league, between 6th and 10th will do....Oh we're fucking that up aren't we.

 

Never had a better opportunity and I dare say never will to become a big club, push on.

 

We really did fuck it all up from top to bottom, management level, backroom, scouting, staff, player, every single one of them.

 

Don't get me last season was amazing but building for the future, using it to our advantage to become big, kicking on, last season may aswell not have happened. What a waste.

 

[STUHILL]

1 minute ago, Matt said:

Build on last season.

 

Sign players using the carrot from being Premier League Champions, Champions League in the summer....Oh we fucked that up didn't we.

 

Kick on from last season, stable but challenging higher up the league, between 6th and 10th will do....Oh we're fucking that up aren't we.

 

Never had a better opportunity and I dare say never will to become a big club, push on.

 

We really did fuck it all up from top to bottom, management level, backroom, scouting, staff, player, every single one of them.

 

Don't get me last season was amazing but building for the future, using it to our advantage to become big, kicking on, last season may aswell not have happened. What a waste.

 

Complacent. 

[lcfcben76]

14 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Can someone please define 'Big Club'. All discussion is futile unless we know what it means.

I would say a consistent side in the top 7/8 but clubs with history as well like Newcastle and villa

[Guest Mickyblueeyes]

We wasted the best opportunity we had to fast track to a big club. No one can deny it. Our signing were poor. We were not prepared for potential losses and we let a lot of our forward think innovative ideas go. Instead, we have reverted back to a team building on principles made famous in 1996 by Arsene Wenger. 

 

We cannot become a big club or an aide challenging for honours if our own mindset is our place is set and we must be happy with it. Every team that is considered a premier league elite started off as a small/smaller club. Just google Chelsea circa 1994 or Man City pre Abu Dhabi investment. 

 

We pissed away something that would normally take a club with heavy investment to do in ten years, in the space of a matter of months. Now we should apparently be grateful for our £30 million pound strikers future trips to Rotherham and Barnsley. Makes sense.

[ZeGuy]

If the owners only went seriously on a CB and Silva from Sporting instead of a Musa or a Kaputska, I'm fairly certain not only we'd be hovering around the tenth place but also have retained more than enough attractivity to buy other good players in the January window. When I see we brought Wague who didn't play a club game since last NOVEMBER, tears come to my eyes. Talk about a wasted opportunity...

[GloverFox]

Simply remaining in this league for this season would be a start ...... !

[HybridFox]

Having the mindset to want to do it again!

Obviously our title win was a huge shock but the whole club seems to have accepted the feeling it was a one-off and we shouldn't be anywhere near that level.

Yes it may well end up being our only title, but what's to say it can't happen again or for us to at least challenge at a high level anyway?

The real "big clubs" are hungry for more, and the players should be saying to themselves let's go out and prove them all wrong, that we can compete with the big boys.

 

We're a long long way from being near one of the big 6, but I strongly feel we should be competing in the same bracket as teams like Everton and Southampton.

Ten steps backwards at the moment though, and a significant amount of work needs to be done.

 

[Spudulike]

3 hours ago, lcfcben76 said:

I would say a consistent side in the top 7/8 but clubs with history as well like Newcastle and villa

Consistant in which years or era ??

 

What history do Newcastle have, say, in the past half a century ??

[elvisfmcfly]

We'll never have the chance again like we had last summer,Know what you did last summer,peter taylored it right up.

[yorkie1999]

We could start with a decent anthem, all the big clubs have em. What we got ...ewen is a fvckin welshman 

[Arriba Los Zorros]

This thread is the most depressing I've ever read on FoxesTalk....

[Nalis]

3 hours ago, Spudulike said:

Can someone please define 'Big Club'. All discussion is futile unless we know what it means.

Here's your big club:

[AyewJoking]

sustained top 6 finishes in the top league for next 100 years.

 

get bought out by a  multi-billionaire sheik

 

do a deal with coca cola to get #fearless printed down the side of every bottle.

[LJS]

I don't want us to be a big club. It's great when we get success, moreso because we rarely get it. Supporting a football club is about representing and connecting with your community.

 

We've been shit far more than we've been good in my time and yet I still keep going. And not purely in the hope that things get better. Or at least not in a one dimensional way. Last season was so good not only because winning was enjoyable in itself, but because of what it represented. Hope against all expectation. Resource not always dictating outcome. An anonymous provincial city muscling in on territory normally reserved for London and Manchester. 

 

Let the big cities have their big clubs, regular trophies and worldwide adulation. I'm happy with our lot. People might call that unambitious. And they'd be right. Leicester City being a big club isn't my ambition to have. I have plenty of my own. The football club is the last link I have with the city I was born and bred in. A connection with my childhood and long dead relatives. I don't need it to serve any other function. Keep bobbing between the top two leagues, thanks.

[Webbo]

We'll never be a big club, we'll always be 1 season from relegation.

 

Wolves won the league 3 times in the 50s, Ipswich won it in the 60s, Derby twice in the 70s, Forest once as well. None of those clubs are big clubs now. Unless you can pay the top wages and have the glamour to attract top players it's never going to happen.

[Guest Mickyblueeyes]

4 hours ago, Spudulike said:

Can someone please define 'Big Club'. All discussion is futile unless we know what it means.

A club that doesn't accept failures as a part of life (I.e. Relegation)

[Izzy]

5 minutes ago, Webbo said:

We'll never be a big club, we'll always be 1 season from relegation.

 

Wolves won the league 3 times in the 50s, Ipswich won it in the 60s, Derby twice in the 70s, Forest once as well. None of those clubs are big clubs now. Unless you can pay the top wages and have the glamour to attract top players it's never going to happen.

Agree with this.

 

I thought our fans in the summer who thought we could 'kick on' or 'establish ourselves' as a top 4 club were deluded.

 

We've smashed our wage structure to pay £100k a week to some players but this pales into insignificance when Man City, Chelsea and Man Utd are paying over £250k a week to Aguero, Hazzard, Rooney and the like. 

 

We just haven't got the history, fan base, brand image, superstars or mega money to ever be a big club.

 

We're a medium sized provincial yo-yo club and always have been whether we like it or not (as are the teams mentioned above).

 

This isn't defeatist or acceptance of mediocrity, it's just who we are IMO

 

[Spudulike]

10 minutes ago, Webbo said:

We'll never be a big club, we'll always be 1 season from relegation.

 

Wolves won the league 3 times in the 50s, Ipswich won it in the 60s, Derby twice in the 70s, Forest once as well. None of those clubs are big clubs now. Unless you can pay the top wages and have the glamour to attract top players it's never going to happen.

There was no internet or social media when those clubs won the league. The world wide appeal of the Premier League gives massive exposure to the winners.

[Webbo]

1 minute ago, Spudulike said:

There was no internet or social media when those clubs won the league. The world wide appeal of the Premier League gives massive exposure to the winners.

Does the internet mean we can afford Aguero?

[LJS]

1 minute ago, Spudulike said:

There was no internet or social media when those clubs won the league. The world wide appeal of the Premier League gives massive exposure to the winners.

 

And highlights the scale of the miracle. The it-should-never-have-happened-ness, the provincial nature of the club, the objectively uninspiring history. It does nothing to make the club "big". It's a good story to tell precisely because we are average.