Naughty Boys thread

[ClaphamFox]

This interview with a hooliganism 'expert' in Le Monde is quite good. He basically says that among eastern European 'ultra' groups, English fans still carry a certain mythology because of the past and are therefore regarded as the ultimate target. He was in Marseille and also points out that the behaviour of the England fans, while drunken, was actually pretty harmess until the Russian 'paramilitaries' showed up.

 

http://www.lemonde.fr/euro-2016/article/2016/06/13/euro-2016-les-hooligans-russes-ont-mene-un-raid-comme-un-commando-paramilitaire_4949178_4524739.html

[GaelicFox]

At least football hooligans have the decency to fight with others who are looking for the same thing (not that im condoning it)

he however seems an utter ******* who is happy to target innocent people if they are muslim.

Seems the Russians have changed those rules

[RonnieTodger]

All of this has seemingly made everyone forget about the terror threats that they were so worried about prior to the tournament.

 

Russia v Slovakia being in Lille a day before England play Wales 40km away is pretty concerning. 

[FrankieADZ]

Are there many English Police out there?

i think there are a few(helping the French in some areas), and they said they'll send more if requested but they havent got the right/authority to arrest anyone in France

[GaelicFox]

All of this has seemingly made everyone forget about the terror threats that they were so worried about prior to the tournament.

Russia v Slovakia being in Lille a day before England play Wales 40km away is pretty concerning.

Especially as many will stay in Lille owing to transport and cheaper hotels etc....

i think there are a few(helping the French in some areas), and they said they'll send more if requested but they havent got the right/authority to arrest anyone in France

They act as spotters I believe

[Jimothy]

... It's a real word you turnip.

Well I didn't know I mean who has a phobia of the Welsh, apart from sheep

Still say fair play to Wymesy for using it.

[Wymsey]

Well I didn't know I mean who has a phobia of the Welsh, apart from sheep

Still say fair play to Wymesy for using it.

Very likely to be a rare opportunity to spot them now, but I'd be frightened of these...

 

[Larry_LCFC]

Very likely to be a rare opportunity to spot them now, but I'd be frightened of these...

 

And there we have it ladies and gentleman. The very reason condoms were invented. What a bunch of unintelligent cvnts.

[GaelicFox]

Very likely to be a rare opportunity to spot them now, but I'd be frightened of these...

****** everywhere ! Wales no different , these are the same cvnts you find in any other country of the world

[Finnegan]

****** everywhere ! Wales no different , these are the same cvnts you find in any other country of the world

We love a bit of casual racism in Wales. I grew up thinking "the Pakis" was just what you called a corner shop.

I'm pretty sure my nan still calls it that.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

English fans still carry a certain mythology because of the past and are therefore regarded as the ultimate target. 

This is pretty much the root cause. 

[Finnegan]

This is pretty much the root cause.

You're hardly a bunch of downy innocents though, are you? I don't doubt local youths and Russian mobs have definitely played a large part but I also know a few English lads who went over before any of this kicked off, without tickets, intending to get shitfaced, party and have a scrap.

And that's me who doesn't exactly hang out in the roughest circles.

Using the fact there's been a definite Russian aggravation in Marseille as a reason to pretend the English are entirely innocent and victims of their past would be just as naive and damaging as doing the opposite and blaming ALL English/Brits for the violence.

[GaelicFox]

We love a bit of casual racism in Wales. I grew up thinking "the Pakis" was just what you called a corner shop.

I'm pretty sure my nan still calls it that.

A Pakie where I come from is a man called patrick

My brother is a patrick known as Packie , once many years ago in Leicester market he was looking at some fake Lee Jeans and I was wanting to show him linekers veg and fruit stall

So I roared (and I can roar)

"Packie Packie come over here"

The glares I got were unbelievable and one guy even said "shocking mate we all live in peace here"

LOL

So now when he is visiting we revert to "Pat"

[ScouseFox]

You're hardly a bunch of downy innocents though, are you? I don't doubt local youths and Russian mobs have definitely played a large part but I also know a few English lads who went over before any of this kicked off, without tickets, intending to get shitfaced, party and have a scrap.

And that's me who doesn't exactly hang out in the roughest circles.

Using the fact there's been a definite Russian aggravation in Marseille as a reason to pretend the English are entirely innocent and victims of their past would be just as naive and damaging as doing the opposite and blaming ALL English/Brits for the violence.

 

it's a bit different now though, isn't it. 

 

obviously the english there weren't drinking water and staying indoors, but before the russians and locals arrived to genuinely try and kill people it was just typical brits abroad. few too many carlsbergs, shocking vest sunburn and singing and falling over in the street before inevitably spilling a beer on the wrong bloke and having a pretty pathetic drunken scuffle. basically magaluf but in footy kits and with flags. it was nothing to write home about (although we would have written about it anyway such is the culture of wanting to shame football fans for any reason). 

 

then the russians turned up, innocent people are probably going to end up dead and the "brits abroad" are/were getting blamed for serious violence. which isn't really fair. drunken idiots and a bit of vandalism and perhaps an assault or two is a bit different to co-ordinated armed mobs attempting murder.

[StanSP]

Can't wait to get down there this weekend football and fine claret what more does the world need !

I'm a huge Claret fan and collector and I'm visiting my favorite Chateau for a private tour on Monday.

I have over 1200 bottles of thier nectar in storage and one specific case the Chateau themselves tried to buy off me

Let's hope for a win at the weekend over Belgium and I might crack a special bottle

Fair shout Swan

 

Which Chateau you going to?

 

We went Bordeaux last year and visited the area of Saint Emilion. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

You're hardly a bunch of downy innocents though, are you? I don't doubt local youths and Russian mobs have definitely played a large part but I also know a few English lads who went over before any of this kicked off, without tickets, intending to get shitfaced, party and have a scrap.

And that's me who doesn't exactly hang out in the roughest circles.

Using the fact there's been a definite Russian aggravation in Marseille as a reason to pretend the English are entirely innocent and victims of their past would be just as naive and damaging as doing the opposite and blaming ALL English/Brits for the violence.

I was referring to the violence on Friday and Saturday which was undoubtedly much worse than Wednesday/Thursday, things clearly got much, much worse with the Ruskies showed up.

Oh and if you could refrain from labelling me as a hooligan becasue I'm English (which you don't know to be true), that would be great. 

[MrSpaM]

Found it extremely odd that UEFA are threatening us with disqualification and saying absolutely nothing about the French fans

 

Sounds like if you are the host of the tournament you can do whatever the hell you like

 

Thats going to be very interesting when the world cup comes round and the host nations police are letting their own ultras run riot constantly the whole tournament with no consequences. I'm hearing it reported that this sort of violence is fairly standard in Russia for their domestic league, and the police generally let fans scrap it out like this and don't get involved.

 

Genuinely think you'd have to be insane to be heading to any of our games there in a couple of years.

[GaelicFox]

Which Chateau you going to?

We went Bordeaux last year and visited the area of Saint Emilion.

Lynch Bages just outside the beautiful Pauillac

I have been before but I'm so excited to be invited for a private tour , you hear all sorts of amazing stories on how this family treat private tours .... I'll probably get to sniff a cork and booted out

There is an historical family connection to this chateau so really their wines are more than just a passion to me

[Kinowe Soorie]

The most disturbing part for me, is that they have beat beaten up by blokes wearing bum bags. The shame of it!!

[GaelicFox]

I was referring to the violence on Friday and Saturday which was undoubtedly much worse than Wednesday/Thursday, things clearly got much, much worse with the Ruskies showed up.

Oh and if you could refrain from labelling me as a hooligan becasue I'm English (which you don't know to be true), that would be great.

Sol and Finners up a tree K I S S I N G .....

You two

The most disturbing part for me, is that they have beat beaten up by blokes wearing bum bags. The shame of it!!

And they he Gola trainers WTF !!!!

Didn't even realise they still made them

[StanSP]

Lynch Bages just outside the beautiful Pauillac

I have been before but I'm so excited to be invited for a private tour , you hear all sorts of amazing stories on how this family treat private tours .... I'll probably get to sniff a cork and booted out

There is an historical family connection to this chateau so really their wines are more than just a passion to me

 

fair enough. hope you have a great time. Bordeaux and surrounding areas are a lovely place. Enjoy the wine!

[apple987]

Unbelievable. They are saying on sky sports news that Russian and English fans could clash again on Wednesday in Lille. Russia are playing in Lille and England in Lens. However Lens and Lille is half hour away. And England Fans have been told by UEFA not to stay in Lens as the Welsh fans will be there.

[GaelicFox]

fair enough. hope you have a great time. Bordeaux and surrounding areas are a lovely place. Enjoy the wine!

Thanks Stan I'll let you know how it goes

[GaelicFox]

Unbelievable. They are saying on sky sports news that Russian and English fans could clash again on Wednesday in Lille. Russia are playing in Lille and England in Lens. However Lens and Lille is half hour away. And England Fans have been told by UEFA not to stay in Lens as the Welsh fans will be there.

Everyone home by Friday then

If I'm also right many of the Tgv trains go through Lille so the station. Could be like kings cross circa 1983 , a war zone

[Larry_LCFC]

Any trouble between England and Wales and it's a ****ing disgrace. We are neighbours on the same little island fgs and we should standby each other. Good luck surviving outside the EU if we don't even look out for ourselves in the United Kingdom.