Drinkwater stats

[HankMarvin]

We missed out on Gueye who wouldve been the perfect Kante replacement but Drinkwater holding his own in the early Midfielder stats.

 

 

 

 

[foxy boxing]

best creative midfielder in the country at the moment and should be playing for England but their loss is our gain, does any other player run the midfield the way he does?

[Koke]

7 minutes ago, foxy boxing said:

best creative midfielder in the country at the moment and should be playing for England but their loss is our gain, does any other player run the midfield the way he does?

 

Best creative midfielder? Fabregas, KDB, Silva, Alli, Ozil, Cazorla are all better than him.

 

If you meant best English created midfielder, then that's a stretch too. Dele Alli is better IMO.

[sylofox]

I hope Shakey is telling Sam not to pick him n Vardy.

 

Agent Shakey

[NotTheMarketLeader]

25 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

We missed out on Gueye who wouldve been the perfect Kante replacement but Drinkwater holding his own in the early Midfielder stats.

 

 

 

 

Agreed.

 

He was only behind Kante last season in both tackles and interceptions.

 

Walsh has took him to Everton, and given we know how Walsh operates and the methods he uses, what the f*** were they doing down at the KP in not getting him as soon as they knew Kante was going or before for that matter.

 

We lost the best player in the world of his type, but didn't bother trying to replace him for a measly £7m.

 

Thats nothing short of negligent in my book.

[foxes21]

when will people shut the fuch up about gueye

 

amartey & mendy will be great for us, get behind them or FOAD

[TheMightySystem]

22 minutes ago, NotTheMarketLeader said:

Agreed.

 

He was only behind Kante last season in both tackles and interceptions.

 

Walsh has took him to Everton, and given we know how Walsh operates and the methods he uses, what the f*** were they doing down at the KP in not getting him as soon as they knew Kante was going or before for that matter.

 

We lost the best player in the world of his type, but didn't bother trying to replace him for a measly £7m.

 

Thats nothing short of negligent in my book.

We did replace him in January when buying Amartey. January was built around buying for the future in case our 3 best players left. Give Amartey time instead of crying that he isn't Kante or Gueye whenever he makes a mistake. As it is I think Amartey has played really well and I think given time Mendy will come good as well.

[StanSP]

49 minutes ago, Koke said:

 

Best creative midfielder? Fabregas, KDB, Silva, Alli, Ozil, Cazorla are all better than him.

 

If you meant best English created midfielder, then that's a stretch too. Dele Alli is better IMO.

at the moment, I'd say Drinkwater is better. 

 

Agree about creative midfielder comment though.

[Soar Fox]

I'd have Drinkwater over Alli any day of the week.

[foxes21]

[st albans fox]

No one conducts a team like Danny currently conducts us

 

he is our heartbeat and when he went off Saturday, we looked rudderless and for a time, clueless when we picked up possession. 

 

Hopefully mendy is able to pick up that baton.

[lfu]

1 hour ago, Koke said:

 

Best creative midfielder? Fabregas, KDB, Silva, Alli, Ozil, Cazorla are all better than him.

 

If you meant best English created midfielder, then that's a stretch too. Dele Alli is better IMO.

Alli has potential but is way too hot-headed

[crazyleicester]

 gotta love our fans. Title a thread about one of our lads in Drinky but he starts the thread talking about a player we should have apparently bought in Gueye!!!!

 

Im ignoring all talk on Gueye as I cant remember us bidding, wanting him, needing him and even if we were all of those he isnt ours so fudge him!

 

As for Danny, wow what a player. To think NP didnt really rate him high enough to make him a first team regular and preferred others in front of him you do have to praise the lord that the bloke stayed with us and waited for his chance. He has taken it with both hands and despite being a United fan and also being linked to Spurs and Liverpool in the media he came out and said he wanted to stay with us plain and simple. No non-stories, no question marks about him possibly moving but appreciating he is having the best time in his career and the potential we have as a group. I cant speak highly about him as he is the real heart beat of the club and sometimes plays second middle to the goal scorers.

 

Awesome work Drinky, keep doing what you do and try to score some more goals as you have the ability (written like he is about to read the forum PMSL) 

[Captain...]

Gueye had good stats last season, but didn't look anything other than average in a really poor Villa side.

[HankMarvin]

1 hour ago, crazyleicester said:

 gotta love our fans. Title a thread about one of our lads in Drinky but he starts the thread talking about a player we should have apparently bought in Gueye!!!!

 

Im ignoring all talk on Gueye as I cant remember us bidding, wanting him, needing him and even if we were all of those he isnt ours so fudge him!

 

As for Danny, wow what a player. To think NP didnt really rate him high enough to make him a first team regular and preferred others in front of him you do have to praise the lord that the bloke stayed with us and waited for his chance. He has taken it with both hands and despite being a United fan and also being linked to Spurs and Liverpool in the media he came out and said he wanted to stay with us plain and simple. No non-stories, no question marks about him possibly moving but appreciating he is having the best time in his career and the potential we have as a group. I cant speak highly about him as he is the real heart beat of the club and sometimes plays second middle to the goal scorers.

 

Awesome work Drinky, keep doing what you do and try to score some more goals as you have the ability (written like he is about to read the forum PMSL) 

Sorry, do we play with one player in the center of midfield? As Gueye is above in both the examples given and was recommended by our former head scout - then yes its someone we missed out on. Is it that too hard to get your head around?

[biggs]

2 hours ago, Koke said:

 

Best creative midfielder? Fabregas, KDB, Silva, Alli, Ozil, Cazorla are all better than him.

 

If you meant best English created midfielder, then that's a stretch too. Dele Alli is better IMO.

Alli is less of a midfielder than Drinkwater IMO

 

I only get to watch on tv and realize it's not the same as seeing games live but from what I've seen and I'm sure I have some bias, Alli does not appear at the same level as Drinkwater. Alli is on the ground a ridiculous amount (diving) and Alli doesn't appear to command the midfield like Drinky. I'd have Drinkwater over Alli without any hesitation

[JerryLundegaard]

6.96 seems a remarkably low average rating for he who has possibly been our best player on average this season so far.  How does that rating stack up against, say, the rest of our squad? Or all other midfielders in the league?

[HankMarvin]

2 minutes ago, JerryLundegaard said:

6.96 seems a remarkably low average rating for he who has possibly been our best player on average this season so far.  How does that rating stack up against, say, the rest of our squad? Or all other midfielders in the league?

https://www.whoscored.com/Teams/14

 

Stats have been pretty bad so far this season, not sure how this compares against other teams

[JerryLundegaard]

2 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

https://www.whoscored.com/Teams/14

 

Stats have been pretty bad so far this season, not sure how this compares against other teams

Thanks!  6.96 puts him at 112th in the league which does seem remarkably low. But then I don't watch much other premier league games so I couldn't compare.

[HighPeakFox]

2 hours ago, NotTheMarketLeader said:

Agreed.

 

He was only behind Kante last season in both tackles and interceptions.

 

Walsh has took him to Everton, and given we know how Walsh operates and the methods he uses, what the f*** were they doing down at the KP in not getting him as soon as they knew Kante was going or before for that matter.

 

We lost the best player in the world of his type, but didn't bother trying to replace him for a measly £7m.

 

Thats nothing short of negligent in my book.

Sigh. Maybe they have another methodology in mind. 

[crazyleicester]

Just now, HankMarvin said:

Sorry, do we play with one player in the center of midfield? As Gueye is above in both the examples given and was recommended by our former head scout - then yes its someone we missed out on. Is it that too hard to get your head around?

Someone we missed out on? My problem with it is why are we talking about him like he was offered on a plate by Walsh to Ranieri who said piss off?! Are we going to wheel out every rightback and centreback who tops the stats charts and say we should have made a move for them? Apart from the reported transfer deadline day madness when our poor start led to a bit of a panic in a move for Silva and maybe NZonzi, I can only remember strong information on Keane at Burnley being a player we bid on a few times. Now if Keane has a stormer of the season, gets into the England squad and develops into a fantastic defender over the course of the season I would then understand if someone started a thread stating we should have bid higher and been braver. However Gueye as far as I am aware was not one that we went for and not on our radar.

 

BTW with Steve Walsh still at the helm, we bought Mendy on the 3rd of July. Although he was bought before Kante left maybe the reality kicked in that we couldnt keep Kante so went for Mendy. I know subsequently we have heard he wasnt a replacement for him but I think he may well have been as that damned release clause on Kante gave us zero chance of being stubborn. 

 

We did quite a lot of our business early and Gueye had a release clause in his contract due to his club Aston Villas relegation from the month of May. If we wanted him and I mean REALLY wanted him, Im sure Walsh would have advised that we made a move as soon as Villa went down so we can get him in before he gets a clause-less contract or before someone else gazumped us to his signing. We got Zieler and Hernandez sorted early as well as Mendy and a few days after Musa had arrived. All the signs were that we wanted to get our deals done asap and we had plenty of opportunities to get a deal done if we wanted him.

 

We didnt want him, we didnt bid so why are we talking about him?

 

[HankMarvin]

26 minutes ago, crazyleicester said:

Someone we missed out on? My problem with it is why are we talking about him like he was offered on a plate by Walsh to Ranieri who said piss off?! Are we going to wheel out every rightback and centreback who tops the stats charts and say we should have made a move for them? Apart from the reported transfer deadline day madness when our poor start led to a bit of a panic in a move for Silva and maybe NZonzi, I can only remember strong information on Keane at Burnley being a player we bid on a few times. Now if Keane has a stormer of the season, gets into the England squad and develops into a fantastic defender over the course of the season I would then understand if someone started a thread stating we should have bid higher and been braver. However Gueye as far as I am aware was not one that we went for and not on our radar.

 

BTW with Steve Walsh still at the helm, we bought Mendy on the 3rd of July. Although he was bought before Kante left maybe the reality kicked in that we couldnt keep Kante so went for Mendy. I know subsequently we have heard he wasnt a replacement for him but I think he may well have been as that damned release clause on Kante gave us zero chance of being stubborn. 

 

We did quite a lot of our business early and Gueye had a release clause in his contract due to his club Aston Villas relegation from the month of May. If we wanted him and I mean REALLY wanted him, Im sure Walsh would have advised that we made a move as soon as Villa went down so we can get him in before he gets a clause-less contract or before someone else gazumped us to his signing. We got Zieler and Hernandez sorted early as well as Mendy and a few days after Musa had arrived. All the signs were that we wanted to get our deals done asap and we had plenty of opportunities to get a deal done if we wanted him.

 

We didnt want him, we didnt bid so why are we talking about him?

 

Walsh obviously rated him thus advising Everton to buy him.

The topic was on DD, but coincidentally Gueye tops both them charts hence the mention is that ok boss?

 

"Steve Walsh held a transfer summit with Ronald Koeman at Finch Farm on the day of his appointment as Everton’s director of football.

It was a meeting designed to help kick-start the Blues summer spending after a frustratingly slow start.

Koeman had been looking for the players into inject quality all over the pitch but his pursuit of midfielders was proving tricky.

But Walsh arrived at Goodison with an expert knowledge and understanding of the market.

He suggested Everton make a move for Idrissa Gueye."

 

 

[los dedos]

7 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

Walsh obviously rated him thus advising Everton to buy him.

The topic was on DD, but coincidentally Gueye tops both them charts hence the mention is that ok boss?

 

"Steve Walsh held a transfer summit with Ronald Koeman at Finch Farm on the day of his appointment as Everton’s director of football.

It was a meeting designed to help kick-start the Blues summer spending after a frustratingly slow start.

Koeman had been looking for the players into inject quality all over the pitch but his pursuit of midfielders was proving tricky.

But Walsh arrived at Goodison with an expert knowledge and understanding of the market.

He suggested Everton make a move for Idrissa Gueye."

 

 

Maybe they wanted/needed a Kante type player where as we were looking for someone with a better pass completion as teams are going to let us have the ball more.

Think i'll trust Claudio and his team on thia one@

[crazyleicester]

14 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

Walsh obviously rated him thus advising Everton to buy him.

The topic was on DD, but coincidentally Gueye tops both them charts hence the mention is that ok boss?

 

"Steve Walsh held a transfer summit with Ronald Koeman at Finch Farm on the day of his appointment as Everton’s director of football.

It was a meeting designed to help kick-start the Blues summer spending after a frustratingly slow start.

Koeman had been looking for the players into inject quality all over the pitch but his pursuit of midfielders was proving tricky.

But Walsh arrived at Goodison with an expert knowledge and understanding of the market.

He suggested Everton make a move for Idrissa Gueye."

 

 

Boss? LOL!!!! 

 

Why are you quoting Everton stuff? Maybe Mendy was his first choice for us? Maybe he didnt rate Gueye that high for his then club Leicester but after so many deals went through he had less options and Gueye was one of the possibles for Everton. I cant believe a player that Villa bought for 9m I think it was is then available one season later for LESS at 7m and Ranieri said no. I cant see it in a million years. Thats why its such a non-story. We dont need the experts of the game like yourself telling us how great players are as basically you dont know any more than any of us who have access to youtube, club forums and normal media outlets.

 

Back to your original post, lets talk DD and dont worry about any of the players who we should or could have moved for because once again, we didnt!!!!

[NotTheMarketLeader]

3 hours ago, TheMightySystem said:

We did replace him in January when buying Amartey. January was built around buying for the future in case our 3 best players left. Give Amartey time instead of crying that he isn't Kante or Gueye whenever he makes a mistake. As it is I think Amartey has played really well and I think given time Mendy will come good as well.

We replaced NG with Amartey in January did we? 

6 months before he left when CR thought he would stay?

Well if so, we didn't make a very  good job of it - he has a bit to prove imo from what we've seen - and am not talking about NG level, but premier league level - whereas Gueye was a decent ready made replacement - proven in this league.

 

Fyi I'm and 'not crying about Kante' 

- Amartey may well be more one for the future.

 

I don't see why you are so precious about the possibility the club may have made a mistake in not trying to sign Gueye.

 

Dont take it so personally ffs!