RonnieTodger Posted 6 October 2016 Posted 6 October 2016 Bring back golden goal Stronger punishment on simulation Maybe one video review each of an incident in the box, but don't take the piss like Rugby. Microphones on the referees Stop wearing the away kit for no reason (Arsenal) Some salary cap on shitty agents
FraserSorensen Posted 6 October 2016 Author Posted 6 October 2016 16 hours ago, MPH said: Hopefully it would not of stopped us winning the last year because we won a lot of games by 1-0! It actually wouldn't have! Leicester would have received an additional 3 points and finished on 84. Spurs would have actually finished 2nd on 79 points having amassed an additional 9 bonus points, Arsenal 3rd on 77 points (+6) and Man City in 4th on 76 (+10). Agree though that it does seem to suit the bigger teams and whilst it might make some games more exciting, it would likely increase the big four (or six now) dominance.
Ollie93 Posted 6 October 2016 Posted 6 October 2016 I'm a big believer for video replays. I also think each team having 2-3 reviews, like cricket, would work. Would help clear up the controversial decisions and managers then couldn't moan.
foxy boxing Posted 6 October 2016 Posted 6 October 2016 the forth official to help the referee with decisions and be another pair of eyes for the ref because how many times does everyone in the stadium see an incident but the referee misses it, if i had a pound for every time i'd be a millionaire
steveherbe Posted 6 October 2016 Posted 6 October 2016 1 hour ago, filbertway said: Was genuinely thinking of this during the boring euros. Tactical battles (being too scared to attack) make games so boring. I think something along these lines would be a great addition to the game. One thing that would be hard though is officiating that rule, how and when would you punish a team for not having 2 players in the oppositions half. Free kick on the halfway line, simple. I have thought this through. Linesman in that half monitors it
Trav Le Bleu Posted 6 October 2016 Posted 6 October 2016 I'd change the rule that says if the other team score more than Leicester, Leicester lose.
Countryfox Posted 6 October 2016 Posted 6 October 2016 Sliding scale on cheating ... Diving ... Red card 4 match ban and loss of a months wages. Feigning injury the getting up with a grin when the other player is booked or sent off .... Red card, 6 match ban, loss of 8 months wages and be made to watch 10 hours non stop of The Generation Game.
Vacamion Posted 6 October 2016 Posted 6 October 2016 If if you lie on the floor feigning injury and doing that "waving one arm to the bench whilst covering your face" thing to suggest that your leg is broken, and your leg actually isn't broken, and then you get up and run around again within 5 minutes as if nothing happened, two geezers with lump hammers and wooden blocks get to come on, hold you down and break your legs for real.
Finnegan Posted 6 October 2016 Posted 6 October 2016 7 hours ago, DB11 said: Who do you think manages conflict on the sidelines to allow the referee to concentrate on refereeing?
TiffToff88 Posted 6 October 2016 Posted 6 October 2016 16 hours ago, Matt said: Ohh make referees do interviews and explain their decisions, players have to have cameras pointed in their faces straight after a match and dare they say a bad word against a decision feel the wrath of the FA, how come referee's get on scot free. Thats the big one for me. there would be a lot less dodgy decisions if the referees had to explain their actions!
GazzinderFox Posted 6 October 2016 Posted 6 October 2016 2 hours ago, RonnieTodger said: Maybe one video review each of an incident in the box, but don't take the piss like Rugby. Really like this idea, it works very well in cricket and Tennis too. In Rugby it's the ref that asks for the replays not the players I think. Each team gets one video review for a really obvious foul in case the ref misses it. If the video ref agrees they get to keep the review in case of another shocker, if not, they lose their ability to review. This would stop lots of spurious claims. Wrestling and shirt pulling at corners/free kicks would stop overnight just as we hoped it would stop this season with the rule changes put unfortunately in hasn't. I't won't happen though because football is one of the most conservative sports around when it comes to rule changes - particularly ones that involve technology. Look how long it took for them to bring in goal line technology.
ScouseFox Posted 6 October 2016 Posted 6 October 2016 1 minute ago, GazzinderFox said: Really like this idea, it works very well in cricket and Tennis too. In Rugby it's the ref that asks for the replays not the players I think. Each team gets one video review for a really obvious foul in case the ref misses it. If the video ref agrees they get to keep the review in case of another shocker, if not, they lose their ability to review. This would stop lots of spurious claims. Wrestling and shirt pulling at corners/free kicks would stop overnight just as we hoped it would stop this season with the rule changes put unfortunately in hasn't. I't won't happen though because football is one of the most conservative sports around when it comes to rule changes - particularly ones that involve technology. Look how long it took for them to bring in goal line technology. like ttfn said earlier football is different because there aren't many clear rules. goal lines and offsides aside anything can be given or not given depending on the ref's opinion. we'd go to a video replay and three weeks later on match of the day 3 Dion Dublin and Robbie savage would still be arguing about whether it was a foul or not. wouldn't work.
filbertway Posted 6 October 2016 Posted 6 October 2016 2 hours ago, steveherbe said: Free kick on the halfway line, simple. I have thought this through. Linesman in that half monitors it If you're defending and the other team does it that makes sense. How about if you're attacking though, the other team would just drop the two player into their half and concede a half line free kick
steveherbe Posted 6 October 2016 Posted 6 October 2016 10 minutes ago, filbertway said: If you're defending and the other team does it that makes sense. How about if you're attacking though, the other team would just drop the two player into their half and concede a half line free kick Penalty? 25 yard free kick? Yellow cards for the 2 transgressors? Ok, I haven't quite got all the details, but we broadly agree in principal
filbertway Posted 6 October 2016 Posted 6 October 2016 10 minutes ago, steveherbe said: Penalty? 25 yard free kick? Yellow cards for the 2 transgressors? Ok, I haven't quite got all the details, but we broadly agree in principal Definitely! The only thing that stopped me posting it before you was not being able to have a decent punishment
ScouseFox Posted 6 October 2016 Posted 6 October 2016 sounds like a really bad idea. defending is part of the sport. if a rubbish team wants to put a lot of men behind the ball to get a result then it's the other team's problem to try and break them down, not the rules of the game to make them get half their team out the way.
GazzinderFox Posted 6 October 2016 Posted 6 October 2016 58 minutes ago, ScouseFox said: like ttfn said earlier football is different because there aren't many clear rules. goal lines and offsides aside anything can be given or not given depending on the ref's opinion. we'd go to a video replay and three weeks later on match of the day 3 Dion Dublin and Robbie savage would still be arguing about whether it was a foul or not. wouldn't work. As you say why couldn't it be used at least for offsides. You see far more goals ruled in/out wrongly for offside given/not given than you used to with goals that did/didn't cross the line. The technology is there for this that could make it right 100% of the time, will we see technology used in these cases? Will we 'eck. With other situations the video ref would have to side with the on field ref if there wasn't 'crystal clear' evidence to overturn the on field refs original decision. Yes you would always get the odd controversial case, but surely a video ref has a better chance of getting it right with a super slow mo HD replay than a guy running at full pelt 50 yards away from the incident?
filbertway Posted 6 October 2016 Posted 6 October 2016 57 minutes ago, ScouseFox said: sounds like a really bad idea. defending is part of the sport. if a rubbish team wants to put a lot of men behind the ball to get a result then it's the other team's problem to try and break them down, not the rules of the game to make them get half their team out the way. They can still be pretty boring and camp 8 men on the edge of the box
ScouseFox Posted 6 October 2016 Posted 6 October 2016 but the most often occurring incident with offsides is someone is flagged wrongly offside but don't actually score because play stops because he's offside. what do we do then? they appeal and he's actually onside. give them a goal even though he hasn't scored? give them the ball back? give them a penalty cos he was basically gonna score? nothing is clear cut in football. in tennis it's in or out. cricket he's in line or it's caught an edge. rugby it's gone forward or he's offside or he's in touch. football isn't the same. you can't video technology every part of the game because there are very few clear cut incidents. that's why we spend so long debating most of them cos there isn't actually a "right" answer, and some random extra man in a box to get it even more wrong 2 minutes later ain't gonna change shit.
GazzinderFox Posted 6 October 2016 Posted 6 October 2016 2 minutes ago, ScouseFox said: but the most often occurring incident with offsides is someone is flagged wrongly offside but don't actually score because play stops because he's offside. what do we do then? they appeal and he's actually onside. give them a goal even though he hasn't scored? give them the ball back? give them a penalty cos he was basically gonna score? Get rid of linesmen altogether and computerise the job of offside, in the same way we got rid of referees deciding if the ball crossed the goal line. It could be done but it won't.
filbertway Posted 6 October 2016 Posted 6 October 2016 1 minute ago, GazzinderFox said: Get rid of linesmen altogether and computerise the job of offside, in the same way we got rid of referees deciding if the ball crossed the goal line. It could be done but it won't. Might as well just simulate a game of FIFA for 90 minutes. I was actually thinking of the logistics of this, players would need sensors all over them in order to be able to calculate whether they're offside. Then you have the whole thing of working out which team kicked the ball last and if it's a pass to the offside player. It's basically complicated as dicks
FraserSorensen Posted 6 October 2016 Author Posted 6 October 2016 8 minutes ago, ScouseFox said: but the most often occurring incident with offsides is someone is flagged wrongly offside but don't actually score because play stops because he's offside. what do we do then? they appeal and he's actually onside. give them a goal even though he hasn't scored? give them the ball back? give them a penalty cos he was basically gonna score? I agree with this to an extent - but if a call is close advantage is always meant to be with the attacker. If a linesman cannot be 100% certain then let play continue until either the goal is scored, or there is a break in play. A review can then be made to disallow the goal or give a free kick to the opposing team. I understand that to give a review potentially you may have entered a new phase of play but this was argued with every change which was made. The advantage rule has only really been refined in recent times and I remember an incident in EURO 2016 qualifying where a player was sent off for two yellow card offences at the same time, due to committing a yellow card offence, the referee playing advantage, and the same player committing another yellow card offence in the 2nd phase of play. There are always going to be complications but if these decisions can largely not break up play and only be used to enhance accuracy and support the officials, is it not worth trialing to see if they can improve the game?
GazzinderFox Posted 6 October 2016 Posted 6 October 2016 10 minutes ago, filbertway said: Might as well just simulate a game of FIFA for 90 minutes. I was actually thinking of the logistics of this, players would need sensors all over them in order to be able to calculate whether they're offside. Then you have the whole thing of working out which team kicked the ball last and if it's a pass to the offside player. It's basically complicated as dicks It's simple, whenever a player gets signed up by a prem team it's written into his contract that he has to get the offside chip implanted into his scrotum. Then when an offside situation arises the computer measures the relative distance between the two players love spuds to see who's offside. Next objection.
steveherbe Posted 6 October 2016 Posted 6 October 2016 Throw ins- why a throw? Why not a kick in? It's FOOTball i know we have goalkeepers but....
Large Frank Posted 6 October 2016 Posted 6 October 2016 I've always thought that defenders shielding a ball from an attacker and shepherding it over the line for a goal kick (or even a throw in) should be an offence and result in a free kick. It would force defenders to play the ball and result in more goalmouth incidents.
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