Countryfox Posted 28 November 2016 Posted 28 November 2016 55 minutes ago, Matt said: Whilst Mahrez is pissing me off, no. In hindsight with Vardy, yes, lost a massive amount of respect for him about his saga over the summer, the way he fucked us about, left us hanging, he signed and I was happy, but he engineered that, to either get a big money move or bigger contract with us (Fair play) but then throw in the book, the film (Albeit i'm not sure how much he is pushing for that), the selling of his wedding to a magazine, all money making, again fair play, but when it's effecting his football, his performances, when he doesn't look like he's putting as much effort in, of course they may not even be linked with the things i've listed but for us fan they're easy things to point fingers at and ultimately he's put himself in this position, seems like he has one massive ego now, I kinda wish we'd got rid now. I'll be happy to be proved wrong, he's done it before... Do you really mean that Matt ? .... the non league player who made it good, won the league, played for his country and married his sweetheart who he had chased after for a long time ... gave all he'd got and played through injury to help the team ... come on ... you love him really ... just think of the happiness he has given to you ...
SheppyFox Posted 28 November 2016 Posted 28 November 2016 Just Vardy, wouldn't have said so at the time but I never anticipated the level of distraction he would have by now either.
Donut Posted 28 November 2016 Posted 28 November 2016 5 hours ago, Dan LCFC said: It's the system making both look worse than they are. I don't buy into this lack of motivation, it's the standard response every time something goes wrong with too many and it's far too simplistic to say that. I also don't buy it's just the other teams doing their homework. Did they all not bother in the second half last season (where it was quite obvious what we were doing) and start this year? I'm not having it. It's our own doing. Exactly. its not "teams doing their homework", its us trying to do the same thing, and not doing it effectively. Teams knew all about us after probably 8 games last season and they just couldnt stop us. I would say looking at it objectively and removing emotions, Vardy is a 29 year old, with one good top flight season of goals to his name. To score that amount of goals for a second season, that would have him up there as a serious goalscoring force within europe. His main attribute is pace, and at 29, hes only going to get slower and less sharp. So it was always going to be unlikely he would be as good again. Hes got a great deal for himself, fair play, but i think if the whole release clause thing didnt exist, youd have to have a think about offers for him. Mahrez, absolutely no way. Quality player, coming into the peak of his career, has more of an all round game and I would say to replace him would cost significantly more. So certainly no to selling Mahrez
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 28 November 2016 Posted 28 November 2016 We KNOW how good they can be. They have PROVEN ability, so that cannot be the problem. It has to be a problem that is related to their mind set.
Buzzell Posted 28 November 2016 Posted 28 November 2016 None of us were expecting them to be this much out of form after last season so....
Guest Col city fan Posted 28 November 2016 Posted 28 November 2016 I guess the only reason for selling either or both of them in the summer was purely a financial one. We'd just won the league, their value was at an absolute premium. I wouldn't have sold either personally, but I guess if we tried to NOW, their value would be halved on current form. Vardy was gonna go for 20 million ish, I think? We'd never get that for him now. And I think if we had sold Mahrez at the end of last season we'd have been realistically asking 30-40 mill? He was after all the Prem player of the season. With how he's performing at the moment I'd swap him for Terry Benson and Frank Hedges...
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 28 November 2016 Posted 28 November 2016 1 hour ago, Col city fan said: And I think if we had sold Mahrez at the end of last season we'd have been realistically asking 30-40 mill? He was after all the Prem player of the season. As far as I know - I remember Ranieri saying it in a PC - there wasn't a single official offer for Mahrez from another club. Staying and signing a new contract was his only option. I think, he wanted to leave. No wonder, that the guy is frustrated.
Almo-Fox Posted 28 November 2016 Posted 28 November 2016 9 minutes ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: As far as I know - I remember Ranieri saying it in a PC - there wasn't a single official offer for Mahrez from another club. Staying and signing a new contract was his only option. I think, he wanted to leave. No wonder, that the guy is frustrated. Mahrez has declared n recent interviews that he received an offer from Arsenal and also barcelona offered 25 m € Abd leicester want his to stay
MattCan Posted 29 November 2016 Posted 29 November 2016 4 hours ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: As far as I know - I remember Ranieri saying it in a PC - there wasn't a single official offer for Mahrez from another club. Staying and signing a new contract was his only option. I think, he wanted to leave. No wonder, that the guy is frustrated. As said above, he disclosed in recent interviews that he got official offers from Barcelona (25 million Euros) and Arsenal. I think the club will sell him next time around.
possiblygeorge Posted 29 November 2016 Posted 29 November 2016 Short answer NO. Then we'd be sitting here now b***hing about why we shouldn't have sold them. Glad they stayed. But Riyad seems to be dwardelling most matches and doesn't look to give a single s**t. Won't be disappointed if he does leave Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
sylofox Posted 29 November 2016 Posted 29 November 2016 In the summer no. But after the showing so far this season yes in January if it's at all possible.
filbertway Posted 29 November 2016 Posted 29 November 2016 I can't take anybody's opinion seriously who would sell Riyad. Comfortably one of our best players and is suffering from being surrounded by appalling footballers (at this level anyway) Only one month to go, I hope we have targets already lined up and we are signing as soon as that window opens. If we see no progress in terms of strengthening the squad in January and performances improving by mid February, the board are seriously going to have to question Claudio. Winning the champions league group will buy him some time, but the drop in performances and results in the league are awful. We're performing as bad if not worse than we did in our first 8 months in this league. Regardless of what was achieved last year, we shouldn't settle for below par performance now. Hopefully this is just a minor blip in Claudio's reign here and he & his team get it together in the second half of the season.
Foxxed Posted 29 November 2016 Posted 29 November 2016 I'm bookmarking this for the next time fans start moaning that players have no loyalty to them or the club. "Played monumental parts in our greatest ever season? Well, business is business..."
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 30 November 2016 Posted 30 November 2016 On 29.11.2016 at 04:18, MattCan said: As said above, he disclosed in recent interviews that he got official offers from Barcelona (25 million Euros) and Arsenal. I think the club will sell him next time around. Ranieri told something else in PC. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIttg0meopY
ithuriel Posted 30 November 2016 Posted 30 November 2016 No, you do not grow by selling your better players unless you have quality to replace them. I'd say the opposite, we should have bought more quality in other areas of our team in the summer, maybe they tried and things did not pay off? Just unfortunate that we are in something of a slump at the moment but I do firmly believe we will get out of it and come back stronger.
MattCan Posted 30 November 2016 Posted 30 November 2016 4 hours ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: Ranieri told something else in PC. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIttg0meopY Briefly, according to the Mercury: http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/leicester-city-winger-riyad-mahrez-is-determined-to-show-he-is-not-a-one-season-wonder/story-29794165-detail/story.html I will get you more links as time would allow me.
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 30 November 2016 Posted 30 November 2016 8 minutes ago, MattCan said: Briefly, according to the Mercury: http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/leicester-city-winger-riyad-mahrez-is-determined-to-show-he-is-not-a-one-season-wonder/story-29794165-detail/story.html I will get you more links as time would allow me. "There was contact with Arsenal," he told Canal Football Club, a television show on Canal+ in France. "But Leicester wanted to keep me and I was pretty expensive. I did not want to create a conflict when the offer came in." In plain English that probably means: - Arsenal contacted his agent - his agent spoke with LCFC - Rudkin told said agent, that for just 40m Monsieur Mahrez may be up for grabs - agent informed Arsenal - Wenger had a good laugh - no deal - Ranieri is happy - Mahrez is not happy, but tries to grin and bear it C' est la vie!
jim5000 Posted 30 November 2016 Posted 30 November 2016 Vardy isn't getting any service this season. Anybody can see that our midfield is one of the weakest in the league and Ranieri isn't helping by persisting in playing only 2 in there, and our attacking players are getting zero service. It was only 6-7 months ago Vardy broke the Premier league record for scoring in consecutive matches, and Mahrez was tearing the league to bits. Arsenal wouldn't of bid for Vardy if he wasn't a proven goalscorer, and if clubs Barca are sniffing around Mahrez are you really suggesting he's no good for Leicester? Our current problems are down to the manager and his refusal to acknowledge the impact Kante had in a 4-4-2. I put £20 on Chelsea to win the league as soon as they brought him.
the fox Posted 1 December 2016 Posted 1 December 2016 1 hour ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: "There was contact with Arsenal," he told Canal Football Club, a television show on Canal+ in France. "But Leicester wanted to keep me and I was pretty expensive. I did not want to create a conflict when the offer came in." In plain English that probably means: - Arsenal contacted his agent - his agent spoke with LCFC - Rudkin told said agent, that for just 40m Monsieur Mahrez may be up for grabs - agent informed Arsenal - Wenger had a good laugh - no deal - Ranieri is happy - Mahrez is not happy, but tries to grin and bear it C' est la vie! More like - Arsenal contacted his agent - his agent spoke with LCFC - Leicester asked for too much - ranieri told mahrez to stay - arsenal asked mahrez to force a move (a LA kantè) - mahrez refused because he did not want to create a conflict - the deal if off Edit: you are having a laugh if you think 40m£ for the player of the season is too much, arsenal paid about 30 million for a defender and spurs got sissoko for 30. If Leicester asked for 40 there would be atleast 10 teams in the bpl happy to pay up
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 1 December 2016 Posted 1 December 2016 2 minutes ago, the fox said: More like - Arsenal contacted his agent - his agent spoke with LCFC - Leicester asked for too much - ranieri told mahrez to stay - arsenal asked mahrez to force a move (a LA kantè) - mahrez refused because he did not want to create a conflict - the deal if off Kante didn't have to force anything, because he had a release clause in his contract. Mahrez, having no release clause, was in no position to force anything. Forget the part about not wanting to create a conflict. He wanted to go, but nobody was willing to pay 40m for his services. Therefore he is frustrated and a shadow of his former self.
the fox Posted 1 December 2016 Posted 1 December 2016 10 hours ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: Kante didn't have to force anything, because he had a release clause in his contract. Mahrez, having no release clause, was in no position to force anything. Forget the part about not wanting to create a conflict. He wanted to go, but nobody was willing to pay 40m for his services. Therefore he is frustrated and a shadow of his former self. I would like for you to give me a proof of his "frustration"(please let is be actual words. Not him putting his hands up because he did not get the ball). And him not playing good on purpose. He was loyal. And what did he get in return. Just people calling him "halfhearted" and frustrated because he did not get his move,
MattCan Posted 1 December 2016 Posted 1 December 2016 6 minutes ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: Kante didn't have to force anything, because he had a release clause in his contract. Mahrez, having no release clause, was in no position to force anything. Forget the part about not wanting to create a conflict. He wanted to go, but nobody was willing to pay 40m for his services. Therefore he is frustrated and a shadow of his former self. First, you said there was no contact. We gave you proof to the contrary. Now, you are trying to spin it by telling us a Halloween story from your imagination. Any fairytale story where they live happily ever after?
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 1 December 2016 Posted 1 December 2016 10 minutes ago, MattCan said: First, you said there was no contact. We gave you proof to the contrary. Now, you are trying to spin it by telling us a Halloween story from your imagination. Any fairytale story where they live happily ever after? Sorry pal, not I did say, there was no contact, Ranieri did. Therefore I put the link in. You are barking up the wrong tree.
MattCan Posted 1 December 2016 Posted 1 December 2016 Just now, Struwwelpeter60 said: Sorry pal, not I did say, there was no contact, Ranieri did. Therefore I put the link in. You are barking up the wrong tree. So, Ranieri was wrong, not you. Hmmm .. Barking? (classy) .. it is you who first quoted me, remember? So, who has been barking at the other's tree? No reply required.
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 1 December 2016 Posted 1 December 2016 18 minutes ago, the fox said: And him not playing good on porpoise. Where did I say that? Please, don't put words into my mouth.
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