Should We Have Sold Vardy / Mahrez In The Summer

[Samilktray]

1 minute ago, Costock_Fox said:

 Get a grip! He was the best thing since sliced bread when he turned Arsenal down.

 

The club were in a lose lose with this, let him go and people are fuming as we don't show ambition, show ambition and they get told they 'need the bullet' when he loses form.

 

 

We gave someone pushing 30, £120k a week, who if you believe reports had to be nursed through most of last season to stop him getting injured. We all enjoyed the fact our lad turned down super club Arsenal to stay here but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out it was potentially a bit daft.

[sylofox]

3 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said:

 Get a grip! He was the best thing since sliced bread when he turned Arsenal down.

 

The club were in a lose lose with this, let him go and people are fuming as we don't show ambition, show ambition and they get told they 'need the bullet' when he loses form.

 

 

Befor they gave him a contract they needed to do a locker search. If his form was in his locker give him the contract if not fvck him off

[adejo92]

I dont think we should have sold either player however i certainly don't think the club should have got so excited thinking they are the new Ronaldo and Messi and shelled out silly wages and bonuses.

 

Did Vardy really stay because of the club or did he stay because we fell for offering him silly wages.

 

He is showing so far that he is a One season wonder and its quite frustrating to see our league position and know that players are earning these sums of money.

[Guest Col city fan]

8 minutes ago, Samilktray said:

We gave someone pushing 30, £120k a week, who if you believe reports had to be nursed through most of last season to stop him getting injured. We all enjoyed the fact our lad turned down super club Arsenal to stay here but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out it was potentially a bit daft.

And did you post anything saying that at the time?

[Countryfox]

4 minutes ago, sylofox said:

 

 

 All I know and care is they need to get it sorted asap.

I think everyone at Leicester City football club knows that ...    at the moment with the hangover from last season, a glut of fixtures and a limited squad due to injuries and unsuccessful bids to get in some key new players, we are going through a bad patch.  Vardy and Mahrez for different reasons are both confidence players and that confidence is very low ...   JV needs to put in some work on the training pitch and watch the ball hit the back of the net a few times ...   Mahrez needs to be sidelined for a game or two ...    he is a luxury player for us and we cannot afford one at the moment ..   we need grafters ...   for me Gray should start in place of him every time.   When things pick up introduce him back from the subs bench.   Just a thought but I'm sure CR will get there in the end. 

[Manwell Pablo]

I personally could of lived with Vardy moving on for 25-30 Million if we had some idea who we were going to replace him with but happy enough he decided to stay, but I never expected to see him bang 20 goals in again no matter where he went. Those within the media critising his game for being readable and noting the fact there isn't a lot of finesse in his finishing ability have a point I am afraid, and the Foxestalk media watchdog squad squawking and calling them four letter words wont change that fact. Hopefully he can find his feet and get some goals for us soon.

 

keeping Mahrez was crucial really. He's considered to have not had a great season so far and he's one of the top goal scorers in the CL and still has contributed goals and assists in the PL even if it is not at the same frantic level as last season. 

 

As has been pointed out by Col, it's really not their fault we are doing so badly, we should of bolstered the midfield instead of signing 80 wingers but I wont go into detail again, as I said some time ago its damage limitation until January and then we really need to move heaven and earth to do something about it and get back on track, lets face it we've all been dreading something happening to Drinkwater and now it has we are in serious shit. This season in terms of the league is pretty much a right off for doing anything other than surviving in as high as a position as possible, we're gonna need to look at the FA cup as the only back into Europe (and probably get knocked out by Northampton in the 3rd round) next season and enjoy the CL while it lasts and try and get as far as we can. 

 

In the clubs defense I will point out the club did try and sign a competent center half to offer cover and competition unfortunately Hernandez has struggled to perform consistently. 

[foxy boxing]

there is no way we should have sold these two(or Kante) but their performances this season compared to last have been woeful. you can say it is down to a number of things but it is up to the individual to work hard and get back the form of last season. they are professional people who know what it takes to perform and at the moment they are not doing that. I just hope all the hype from last season hasn't gone to their heads and that they still want to work hard for the team as well as themselves

[Izzy]

When they both score in the Champions League final, we'll all be delighted that we didn't sell them 

[GaelicFox]

2 hours ago, Swan Lesta said:

Kill me now.

Surely it's worth staying around to see the total numpties that will say yes and the reasons why 

[GaelicFox]

54 minutes ago, Samilktray said:

We gave someone pushing 30, £120k a week, who if you believe reports had to be nursed through most of last season to stop him getting injured. We all enjoyed the fact our lad turned down super club Arsenal to stay here but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out it was potentially a bit daft.

It was potentially draft hiring Claudio 

[EGBFitness]

No. 

 

This problem lies more than just 2 players. Yes they look like a shadow of themselves from last season but as a team we have looked flat. 

 

Everyone knows Vardys threat is his pace, teams are sitting deeper to take that out of his game. Strikers are obviously confidence players too and he seems to have lost it all. He seems to have no interest this season though which is disappointing to see - he was everywhere last season. 

 

Mahrez is the magician, he is now getting 2 if not 3 players marking him now to take him out the game. Once again looks to be struggling slightly but we need more quality throughout the team to take pressure and provide more space for him. 

 

We need to change our approach as a team or add more quality in Jan and then hopefully they will look more of themselves from last season. 

 

I think Mendys abcense has had more of an effect than what we know. He is a player known for passing and creating attacking play, maybe he was going to be our next outlay in attack

[CosbehFox]

With a Champions League campaign upon us, no. 

 

The penalty it's brought more than anything else is the wage bill will have rocketed. Other players wanted new deals with wages towards Vardy and Mahrez's deal. 

 

Its part of the reason Southampton sell. It's not the transfer fee they will get what concerns - it's the wages which go up. 

 

Spurs have the same problem - they are recultant to sign Kane on bigger wages. It's not because he isn't worth it but more they are worried about the aftermath of various players asking for similar figure. Apparently Spurs wage restrictions are what has halted them signing decent players in this past summer. 

 

Alongside that we've had a disaster in the transfer window where promise was prioritised over quality. Whether this is why Walsh decided on a change where he was allowed more autonomy - who knows? But we've gambled on young players from lesser leagues. You could possibly except Zieler, Hernandez, Mendy and Slimani. The first two were freebies so no issue with that. Mendy injured and Slim looks a threat given any good service. 

 

The reports from pre season training were that Mendy's range of passing excited the players. He's not the same player as NG and we wouldn't have been as successful against the top sides. But against a Middlesbrough, someone like Mendy could have been a huge asset.

[Wymsey]

Regarding Mahrez, just don't know whether his heart is at this club currently and unsure if he wants a move to a more prestigious club. Also there could be the possibility of his agent trying to unsettle him in some ways for his own benefit now we're not doing as well as most have hoped. His recent performances indicate that he's either happy the way he's playing or trying and get other team mates more involved.

 

With Vardy, I genuinely believehe's not trying as hard as he has done and some of the increase in his £ weekly has gone to his head. He's getting on a bit soon and feel his pace will start to brake a bit in the medium term (towards end of season or into the start of next season). Slimani shows more importance than just running around and chasing lost causes which Vardy has often done recently.

[MattCan]

You can't blame Vardy and Mahrez if there is no midfield out there. This thread is nonsense.

[foxy boxing]

1 minute ago, MattCan said:

You can't blame Vardy and Mahrez if there is no midfield out there. This thread is nonsense.

anybody else getting a threadache?

[AmarteyAndChill]

If we sold Mahrez and Vardy no player would have wanted to join because instead of being a club going places, we were just happy with mediocrity.

[the fox]

Vardy is good, but would rather if we let him go. He is a one dimensional player, and he has the worst one dimensional ability (the pace), he is looking to be 30, and the first thing that goes away with age is pace, I would've been OK with me if his one dimensional ability was finishing/Areal threat or positioning. But pace is  just not good news.

 

But for mahrez, I truly believe that he is a victim of the formation/quality around him. Just watch his highlight against Everton ,

Or against Burnley 

 

So, the question is not if we could sell mahrez. Because there are a lot of people interested, the questions is, could we get another year from him

[purpleronnie]

I'd be amazed if Mahrez would stay another year.  As for Vardy if he carries on his bad form I can't think of any top clubs who'd want him.

[MattCan]

6 minutes ago, the fox said:

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So, the question is not if we could sell mahrez. Because there are a lot of people interested, the questions is, could we get another year from him

 

Because Mahrez is still marketable, I think LCFC club will sell him at the end of this season if they can't sustain feeding this wage structure.

[sly1]

What a joke we've won the league  last 16 of champions league some fans are so  fIckle.

[Terraloon]

4 hours ago, Col city fan said:

No. You don't sell your best players. You buy good players to compliment them. 

Could you see Barcelona selling Messi, Suarez and Neymar?

Both Vardy and Mahrez would look much better if they were playing with class midfielders. Like last season.

All this...I'd sell him and I'd sell him is MISSING THE POINT. Our recruitment in the summer was fookin dreadful.

If we had signed Silva in the summer, Vardy and Mahrez would look very very different now.

And not signing a quality, younger centre back was a sin.

As some say hindsight is a wonderful thing but at the same time a managers ability is to know when the time is right to dismantle a team and re build

It was obvious based on age based on his career to date and indeed based on how he plays that it was highly unlikely that Vardy was ever going to repeat his exploits of 2015/16. It was pretty obvious to other clubs that just by dropping deeper you really didn't have to focus on the ball being played over the top to Vardy as he's fast but with reduced green in front of him and indeed if you give  yourself a yard or two start you have nullified  that part of his game meaning you really dont have a player who is an exceptional threat.

Mayrez isn't a one trick pony  and as someone else's said teams double up on him which should free up other players  but that is just not happening.

The trouble isn't so exclusively with either of them it's the fact that far too many of the players have been awarded huge new long term contracts and some like Huth and to a lesser degree Morgan and I am afraid to say Vardy,are very much on the down slope of their careers put all that together they are in a comfort zone where they are  all being overpaid(and yes I know all players are overpaid) comparing players of similar abilities at other clubs they know that there is little chance of them as individuals every winning the league again so for me it's all about motivation and perhaps that's why Kante bit the bullit .The trouble is that what we see is probably what you are going to get for some years now unless they a number  from the squad are shipped out and that won't be easy to achieve.

So back to a rebuild as drastic as it sounds it's going have to happen be it sooner  or indeed later

 

[MattCan]

7 minutes ago, sly1 said:

What a joke we've won the league  last 16 of champions league some fans are so  fIckle.

Yeah, I'm really shocked by the behavior of a very large section of the fans. Really shoking.

[HighPeakFox]

This is a rather pointless retrospective exercise. For the nth time we just have to be patient and not abandon the players, however badly they're playing. People have short memories and short sight. 

[stevelcfc]

No.

[Kitchandro]

No, they're underperforming, not crap.

 

We should have sold Schlupp.