Faith in Ranieri Poll

[Leamington Fox]

I can't believe people are slagging the owners of the club here.  I don't think we could ask for better owners.

 

Personally, I think we give CR until the end of the season.  I doubt that a rushed replacement would necessarily galvanise things in time.  If we go down, CR will almost certainly have to go.  If we stay up, CR stays and we give him a chance with a crucial season.

 

As long as we avoid relegation, next season is going to be the real test of whether we can cement a position as a regular top half club.

 

Let's stick the feck together and get behind the lads, whether they all deserve it or not.

[desertfox2]

9 minutes ago, Matt said:

 

As for replacement's i've already listed 3 (If I put more thought in i'm sure I could come up with more) in another thread.

 

Unrealistic, it definetly won't happen but i'd love it to happen: Pearson.

Not sure if it's unrealistic or not: Mancini, he's available, not a clue if he'd come.

Risky: Rowett, as i've said risky but certainly one of the better managers to have if we did go down.

Can't see Pearson coming back after all that has gone on even if the owners would take him back which again is highly unlikely.  Not going to happen.

 

Any manager worth having would want greater control over transfers. Not saying that, that wouldn't be a good thing. But I just don't see anyone decent wanting to come unless the whole club is overhauled again. Not going to better Ranieri winning the league and getting to knock out stages in Europe so it's a job that has very little to gain unless someone like a Rowett but IMO that would be about as underwhelming as the last transfer window.

 

Although I do think Ndidi will go on to be a huge coup for us.

[Guest Col city fan]

6 minutes ago, Leamington Fox said:

I can't believe people are slagging the owners of the club here.  I don't think we could ask for better owners.

 

Personally, I think we give CR until the end of the season.  I doubt that a rushed replacement would necessarily galvanise things in time.  If we go down, CR will almost certainly have to go.  If we stay up, CR stays and we give him a chance with a crucial season.

 

As long as we avoid relegation, next season is going to be the real test of whether we can cement a position as a regular top half club.

 

Let's stick the feck together and get behind the lads, whether they all deserve it or not.

That's the point!! As long as we avoid relegation...

Will we, with this bloke at the helm?

Will you really want to risk getting relegated?

Im not sure people have any grasp of what this might mean for the club. 

Not only would be a laughing stock across the world of football, we'd also have to offload two thirds of the squad. And probably sit in the Championship for some time HAVING BEEN PREM LEAGUE WINNERS!

I can't believe some are taking relegation so lightly!

[Buzzell]

Relegation is real lads. Strap yourselves in for a bumpy ride. 

[EGBFitness]

9 minutes ago, Leamington Fox said:

I can't believe people are slagging the owners of the club here.  I don't think we could ask for better owners.

 

Personally, I think we give CR until the end of the season.  I doubt that a rushed replacement would necessarily galvanise things in time.  If we go down, CR will almost certainly have to go.  If we stay up, CR stays and we give him a chance with a crucial season.

 

As long as we avoid relegation, next season is going to be the real test of whether we can cement a position as a regular top half club.

 

Let's stick the feck together and get behind the lads, whether they all deserve it or not.

Can't you see that this is the problem? Being sentimental is all well but what makes it ok for CR to walk away if we're relegated but we can't end his time by mutual consent with the position the club is in? No one wants him to go but there's no encouragement in performances and results approaching the final 1/4 of the season - that's a concern. 

 

I dont think the club can afford to get relegated either which is why it is so important to not just ride it out and hope for the best. 

 

Agree with not slating owners off though. 

[TheSomersetFox]

1 hour ago, Ricey said:

I just pray we can muster together one good performance and result that may raise confidence, heal the rifts and set us on our way back.

It should have been the win against Man City, It should have been qualifying from the Champions League group, It should have been after beating West Ham and earning a tough point at Boro. Maybe even after our first domestic away win at Everton.

 

Claudio says one good result will sort us out, we've already seen that that's bollocks.

[midland_red]

5 hours ago, Col city fan said:

I genuinely can't believe the owners are just going to sit on this and watch us get relegated. It would have huge implications for the club. 

Surely they are discussing some course of action? 

The difference between the Pearson side, relegation bound, and this team is that Pearson's lot had some fight in it. This bunch looks like they are giving in already.

Ive been mulling this point over Col..here's a suggestion why the owners might not move.

A lot of Asian countries have long traditions of honour and sticking to agreements. I dont know about Thailand but Japan certainly has. Japan has fewer lawyers than the state of California for example, decisions are made consensually and agreements expected to be upheld. (This, leaving football for a moment,is why the Japanese carmakers are so pissed off with Brexit - they made a deal with Mrs Thatcher and now it will be reneged upon..)

Back to footy. When the owners appointed Claudio, they asked him whether he would stay if we got relegated, and he said yes. It was implicit, or even explicit, that he would not be sacked if we did - he would be given the time to fix things.

I think they might feel that they made a moral commitment and it should stand, even after winning the title..

I hope they don't think that way. It takes nothing away from Claudio's achievement last season to say that he needs to step down

 

[Old Fox]

36 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

That's the point!! As long as we avoid relegation...

Will we, with this bloke at the helm?

Will you really want to risk getting relegated?

Im not sure people have any grasp of what this might mean for the club. 

Not only would be a laughing stock across the world of football, we'd also have to offload two thirds of the squad. And probably sit in the Championship for some time HAVING BEEN PREM LEAGUE WINNERS!

I can't believe some are taking relegation so lightly!

Normally agree with you Col but on this occasion I actually really believe it is the players that need a long long hard look at themselves.

 

Claudio brought the absolute best in many of them (Huth, Morgan, Fuchs, Drinky, Simpson, Vards) with a very supportive and style where he absorbed all the pressure. They achieved the unthinkable and then were rewarded hugely and sadly I think most of them have lost the appetite and desire yet Claudio has not blamed them once!

 

Most on here have said try 442,4231,352,433 and he has done all these things...stayed composed and the lads have let him and us down massively.....spoilt, overpaid, lazy sods with no desire imo.

 

personally, I would stand by him and I maybe on my own but I would keep him EVEN if we went down....now I don't say that lightly as I have watched some right crap over the 80's, 90's and 00's in Divsion 2, Championship and League 1..  we missed the chance preseason to move this club forward and I hope Claudio sorts it!

 

But you know what IF the worst case happens then I would rather Claudio rebuild as most of the mercenaries would bloody leave anyway.....he deserves the chance to sort it but maybe I am a loyal old git who is so angry with the players ....they should be ashamed imo....

[Koke]

These poll results are quite damning on Ranieri.

 

Even Pearson had more than half the fans on his side when we were rock bottom with him.

[crazyleicester]

EGBF - Lets agree to disagree here fella because whatever I type you seem to be missing the points or exaggerating them. We are going round and round in circles and its got boring. The bottom line is I believe that CR deserves more time, I dont buy he has lost the dressing room and i think our players have gone soft and need to put the work in. There, thats it in a nutshell.

 

1 hour ago, Matt said:

 

As for replacement's i've already listed 3 (If I put more thought in i'm sure I could come up with more) in another thread.

 

Unrealistic, it definetly won't happen but i'd love it to happen: Pearson.

Not sure if it's unrealistic or not: Mancini, he's available, not a clue if he'd come.

Risky: Rowett, as i've said risky but certainly one of the better managers to have if we did go down.

I cant remember seeing Mancini in any stadiums this season when watching live games but they zoomed in on him tonight as he is watching Man Cit vrs West Ham. Im sure people will be putting two and two together and getting 5. BTW, how good are Man City tonight? I was going to say Jesus wept but he didnt, he just scored their 3rd in the first half

[Salieri]

I'm torn  I am DESPERATE for him to turn things around, it would be so sad to see him given the boot after what he achieved last season, but it is becoming increasingly clear that for whatever reason, he is looking incapable of reversing our fortunes. Everything is so wrong at the moment and it's hard to get your head around the incredible contrast between last season and this. Of course the players should shoulder a huge portion of the blame but ultimately the buck stops with the manager.

 

The big worry that if we do get rid then who is out there to replace him. The names bandied about either inspire little confidence or are an unrealistic target.

 

I'd love to say continue to keep faith in him, but relegation would be a monumental disaster for the club and is looking increasingly likely given the abject performances for the large majority of games this season and if anything they are getting worse and more disjointed despite Ranieri's tinkering.

 

Sad and worrying times, what a comedown. 

 

 

[SpinneyHillRanger]

Ranieri deserves to leave on his terms.... In over 130 years no other Leicester manager has achieved what he did... Even in this day and age he deserves a chance to stay at the club until he wants.

 

I personally think no other manager will get these overpaid lot of players to play good football again.... Not with the same desire or hunger anyway. That's the difference between players who get and to a certain degree deserve the highest wages and our players who were rewarded beyond their wildest dreams.

 

Ranieri is not to blame, more blame goes on the Thais for sending them on ridiculous long press season tours and giving them sports cars.

 

Even if someone like Danny Simpson, huth, Morgan, Fuchs get relegated now, they won't care as much... They are on long term contracts bigger than they even expected, well into their late 30s. Sorted for life, who needs to bust a gut now

[Guest Basildon Fox]

There needs to be a few given their marching orders. Ranieri has lost the dressing room. Absolute shambles performances can no longer be tolerated.

 

Also everyone who oversaw the shower of shite last 2 transfer windows, from Rudin to Whealan. Get rid and bring someone in with the remit to get the non playing side right too.

[Daggers]

11 hours ago, Salieri said:

 

The big worry that if we do get rid then who is out there to replace him. The names bandied about either inspire little confidence or are an unrealistic target.

 

 

The scene is set for a glorious return of the Megson, we are crying out for 7-3-0 including five right backs.

 

With NP, the team had indicated a passion all season - this time around there's nothing. It's limp. Our only hope is that Mrs Vardy can tweet abuse at the PL until they award us extra points.

[josh_baskin]

Sorry wrong thread

[RonnieTodger]

13 hours ago, Koke said:

These poll results are quite damning on Ranieri.

 

Even Pearson had more than half the fans on his side when we were rock bottom with him.

I think people are voting leave with a heavy heart. There's nothing I'd like to see more than Ranieri turning it around and proving everybody wrong. With the 14/15 team, you always felt that there was a chance for something different. 

 

This year our "Good, battling performances" are dragging us down to the Championship. We're bending over backwards every week. As much as Ranieri says it, there's actually no fighting spirit about any of our defeats.

[polarbear]

Let's also consider the summer:

 

we chased after both Keane and deeney and were reportedly bidding 20-25m for each quite early in the summer. Both would have been perfect for us in the sense that:

keane young good with the ball good defender and has been here before so would fit in quickly 

deeney - hard working 1 seasons prem exp, Watford captain and leader and most importantly would be an upgrade on Okazaki.

 

ultimately we didn't get bids accepted for eiTher but that shows the club and management recognised the need for improvements in those position.

 

surely when those bids failed we must have had plan b's which fit those criteria above. What we then got was nowhere close:

 

no keane and we end up with a free trnasfter in Hernandez - the difference in quality is like an ocean . Surely there must have been something in between Keane and Hernandez 

 

no deeney and we end up with musa and slimani. One is an outright forward and not a link man and the other is a left winger/vardy copy.

 

where is the correlation between what we originally targeted in terms of player attributes and what we ended up with 

[surrifox]

14 hours ago, Old Fox said:

Normally agree with you Col but on this occasion I actually really believe it is the players that need a long long hard look at themselves.

 

Claudio brought the absolute best in many of them (Huth, Morgan, Fuchs, Drinky, Simpson, Vards) with a very supportive and style where he absorbed all the pressure. They achieved the unthinkable and then were rewarded hugely and sadly I think most of them have lost the appetite and desire yet Claudio has not blamed them once!

 

Most on here have said try 442,4231,352,433 and he has done all these things...stayed composed and the lads have let him and us down massively.....spoilt, overpaid, lazy sods with no desire imo.

 

personally, I would stand by him and I maybe on my own but I would keep him EVEN if we went down....now I don't say that lightly as I have watched some right crap over the 80's, 90's and 00's in Divsion 2, Championship and League 1..  we missed the chance preseason to move this club forward and I hope Claudio sorts it!

 

But you know what IF the worst case happens then I would rather Claudio rebuild as most of the mercenaries would bloody leave anyway.....he deserves the chance to sort it but maybe I am a loyal old git who is so angry with the players ....they should be ashamed imo....

you're not on your own, for what its worth I would too. Remember when we laughed at the so called "entitled"  fans of clubs like Liverpool and Spurs and all their bed-wettery. Now we have a highly regarded manager of the current league champions who have not yet even been in the relegation places (cue "wait until the weekend") this season and can't wait to replace him with the likes of Hodgson, Hughton, Rowett or Pulis. What we are likely to end up with is something like Tactics Tim or Pardew and it would serve us all right.

The players have imploded - whatever happens most of the prima donnas  will be gone t the end of season and good riddance - he will know the players better than anyone and will have already have an eye on who he will want to keep for the future;  if we go down he has enough in the bank to be given the chance with a new set  much like Benitez is doing having  shed all the workshy crap that their previous managers had accumulated.

Anyhow its all about opinions.........

[ramadaone]

On 1/31/2017 at 21:58, ramadaone said:

Shaky

 

You could have got good odds back on 31/1/17 for those that took the hint