WestLothianFox Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 We should have got a new manager in before the transfer window, giving the new man a chance to replace some of the dross we have.
RonnieTodger Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 8 hours ago, adejo92 said: I think what needs to be understood is the fact that no Leicester fan WANTS Claudio to be sacked. The reality is, he NEEDS to be sacked. I will be forever grateful and respectful of him for what he achieved in winning the Premier League however thats when things were going great. Things are not going great anymore and he hasn't got a clue how to improve things. Sorry but he has to go for the sake of the club. Exactly.
Guest Bob Hazels shorts Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 Rather not vote but............... We have enjoyed an unbelievable rise from the old third division to being crowned the best/ highest team in the country. The bulk of the set up and staff have remained the same throughout this process so must have being doing something right. One noticeable change though is Claudio replacing Pearson. He picked up the baton, offering a slightly different culture and squeezing the best out of mostly existing players but doing nothing controversial or tinkering and took us for the final part of the journey. We have since lost one player of note, one or two of the scouting team and head scout. In all honestly should them going totally destroy the values that made us successful. Applied to a business such as a restaurant ..... Fantastic premises, great and loyal custom, staff all trained, strict standards kept, hygienic, menus in place, suppliers sorted, product great but a little continental flair wouldn't go amiss. Chef gets sack, new Italian chef comes in enjoys all of the foundation of success, uses all of the current set up and his freshness, personality take the premises that bit further- Result Michelin Star. As with our situation the problem arises when a couple of staff leave, you have to recruit and blend in / accommodate player/ staff inc the odd one that gets up peoples noses, the legacy from previous starts to fade, staff think they're invincible, lording it. The gig then becomes yours.
Blanchflower78 Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 This is going to be like Pearson replacing Sven next season. A massive clear up operation and balancing the squad again. First job will be the defence. How no one ever saw that coming..
steflcfc Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 If the players have lost faith in Ranieri, the question is what has happened since the summer for things to turn toxic so fast?? Have the players been looked after so well that their feet are firmly placed under the KP! And they now think they are irreplaceable or cannot be spoke to a certain way as they are "Premier League Champions"? If another manager comes in and upsets this "click" that maybe in the dressing room, then what's to say the same situation where the manager isn't listened to or respected won't happen to him? The players have to take a vast majority of the stick that's coming their way as Mahrez,Vardy,Drinky heads seem elsewhere. they were just as fast to reap the rewards and adulation of last season. I bet they sleep sound at night picking up their ££ when quite frankly they should be embarrassed with the season as a whole and I do t see them trying to drag them self out of it.
Innovindil Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 I'm still blaming the recruitment team and the mongrels in charge of handing out these massively inflated paychecks. Ranieri hasn't gone from the Don to Done in 6 months, not buying it. The players can't be arsed because they've already made it to the big boy league, we needed fresh blood to push them and instead we ended up splurging millions on mediocrity when we needed hard working leaders.
LFEFox23 Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 I'm still positive about Claudio, i think the man deserves the Man Utd and Swansea games atleast! No doubt he frustates me with his player choices but i believe he can turn things round.
crazyleicester Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 41 minutes ago, EGBFitness said: I hate this whole 'big clubs in transition' BS. United still spent over £100m that summer, Chelsea had just won the league, City was going all out for it and you could see what it meant to Arsenal after they beat us at their place - we won the league because we was the best team in the country nothing to do with other teams. But im glad you mention Chelsea because their fortunes turned around once Jose went, an example to my previous message. So in a nutshell you are saying that last seasons success was down to the players? Which if that's the case why are you so bothered about what manager we have? Or why are you so quick to slate the players this season after all they done last year!? CR has already said he doesn't deal with transfer negotiations so he personally hasn't bought in the likes of Ndidi and Slimani and also if he went how do you know their would be a mass exodus!? Did all the players leave when Pearson left, who he had recruited and built together as a team? Did Chelsea players leave when Jose left? With the comments Ulloa is coming out with how do you know the players aren't considering leaving now whilst CR is in charge!? He should be given the right to leave by mutual consent but the way things are looking we are going to be playing championship football next season, so how are we better off? Personally I couldn't see CR sticking around if we got relegated either. The club should of been making some serious signings this summer when we was the most attractive we will ever be in terms of champions and champions league team - what makes you think we will be come this summer!? Last night you could say we was hard done too by the handball but you also create your own luck, we had plenty of it last season. The matter of the fact is that we looked piss poor against Burnley, we did against Derby, Chelsea, Boro etc etc if we was losing but was unfortunate in terms of we gave opposition a good game or individual error etc like 14/15 season I would be all for CR staying, the fact is we easily look the worst team in the league and have done for the past 2/3 months now and that's the reason he needs to go before it's too late and it's us the fans who have to suffer not the likes of CR who can leave and take another job on. Firstly regarding Claudio and transfers. Like all clubs in modern day football they have a set up to look at players. You rarely see managers flying to France to watch a league match these days. However what is evident is these are picks that Claudio has sanctioned. Whether its players that our system has been looking at for weeks, months or even years, Im sure Claudio has his say. If he didnt have his say then he wouldnt have fought so hard to be stubborn and keep Leo. The other thing is I have read countless times about Claudio calling a player and trying to convince them to join us. He of course is involved but his recent quotes of being a coach and not general manager is because other people are employed at the club to deal with the negotiations and financials. As for the big club in transition remark, whether you like it or not its true. Teams can be transformed with a few signings and they have this season. United are doing better because of the input of Pogba, Ibrahimovic and Mkhitaryan. Those are three massive players for them. Imagine them without that trio this season. Look at Chelsea heading the league. Kante for them has made a huge difference, massive in fact. I mentioned on another thread about his stats yesterday against Liverpool. He made 14 tackles in the game, the next on the list was Lovren on 3. Add Luiz who has arguably been one of the best defenders this season and you can understand the difference of a few key signings. Alonso has also given them much needed balance on the left. I wont go through all teams but just work out how many sides have newish managers from the top clubs and its clear that most were in rebuild mode. This season the aforementioned are a different beast altogether. Back to us and winning it, well we were largely a bunch of misfits. Huth was deemed not good enough for a struggling Stoke side, Simmo at QPR, Albrighton wasnt offered a new deal at his home town club. Fuchs left on a free and instantly started talking about playing in America, largely because he thought he wasnt good enough to play at such a high standard and Im sure he even surprised himself. However, these dudes played out of there skin. They then had Kante doing the work of 2 in front of them and that allowed alot of the rest of the team to express themselves which they did. It was a complete freak season and one that is unlikely to happen again.The players performed, the manager kept the pressure of the them and the club and people started liking us again. The media were wound up by Pearsons goings-on and Claudio did magnificently to calm everything down and allow the players to play. Unfortunately this season (so far) they havent repaid him and the club with league performances. We showed what we could do v Man City but the reality is they cant string two decent performances together. And finally.... You are typical of the knee-jerk reaction fan who can take the good and not the bad. It was all ok last season and the champions league has been great this season but you want to down tools and sack the manager in the hope that it will kick off our league season. Unfortunately life isnt like that. Most of the people who made us the team of the century last season are still here this season. They need to (as a collective) get us out of the mire. They will be much better for it next season if they can turn it around.
justfoxes Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 He's 3/1 on for the sack race by all accounts? http://www.thesackrace.com/news/1st-february-2017/claudio-ranieris-odds-slashed-in-the-premier-league-sack-race
Guest Bob Hazels shorts Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 37 minutes ago, steflcfc said: If the players have lost faith in Ranieri, the question is what has happened since the summer for things to turn toxic so fast?? Have the players been looked after so well that their feet are firmly placed under the KP! And they now think they are irreplaceable or cannot be spoke to a certain way as they are "Premier League Champions"? If another manager comes in and upsets this "click" that maybe in the dressing room, then what's to say the same situation where the manager isn't listened to or respected won't happen to him? The players have to take a vast majority of the stick that's coming their way as Mahrez,Vardy,Drinky heads seem elsewhere. they were just as fast to reap the rewards and adulation of last season. I bet they sleep sound at night picking up their ££ when quite frankly they should be embarrassed with the season as a whole and I do t see them trying to drag them self out of it. The 'click' in the dressing room won us the league. We are a side of average players who worked their nuts off as a unit and it worked. Now they're a team of millionaires who think they are better than they are. There is not a 'click' anymore there are several 'clicks' that is counter productive. 8 players have to be integrated. Those from the same countries or nationalities are sticking together as a language and cultural thing, bound to happen. Difference with our team and others that have the same issue is that they are better and can cope, we need that click again.
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 IMHO Ranieri is pretty much unsackable this season, rightly or wrongly. Worst case scenario he'll be shifted upstairs.
Babylon Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 5 minutes ago, UpTheLeagueFox said: IMHO Ranieri is pretty much unsackable this season, rightly or wrongly. Worst case scenario he'll be shifted upstairs. You just want to be able to cover us on your lower league show again.
DeepBlueSomething Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 The owners will not sack him. Even if we are rock bottom with a few games to go - they will keep him in place. If we get relegated, he will resign/be moved on, but not before. Look at how patient they were in the "great escape" season with Pearson! He didn't have the "won the premier league" card to play and they still stuck with him. The best that can happen is for an almighty "clear the air" session to be held between the vocal players (Schmeichel, Drinkwater, Vardy, Morgan) and the coaching team to find some common ground to go forward. It's clear the players don't buy into this current style and that will drag us down unless a compromise is reached - like (allegedly) happened with Cambiasso prior to the great escape. If they can agree a way to play that means they commit to the plan and stop the clueless hoofing then we may still have a chance. Remember, 17th will do. It's not good enough, but it'll do.
ClaphamFox Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 7 minutes ago, DeepBlueSomething said: The owners will not sack him. Even if we are rock bottom with a few games to go - they will keep him in place. If we get relegated, he will resign/be moved on, but not before. Look at how patient they were in the "great escape" season with Pearson! He didn't have the "won the premier league" card to play and they still stuck with him. The best that can happen is for an almighty "clear the air" session to be held between the vocal players (Schmeichel, Drinkwater, Vardy, Morgan) and the coaching team to find some common ground to go forward. It's clear the players don't buy into this current style and that will drag us down unless a compromise is reached - like (allegedly) happened with Cambiasso prior to the great escape. If they can agree a way to play that means they commit to the plan and stop the clueless hoofing then we may still have a chance. Remember, 17th will do. It's not good enough, but it'll do. The difference between this season and the 'great escape' season is that then we were playing well but were not getting the breaks - there were so many games where we put in very encouraging performances but just got pipped. And the players always looked like they were trying, even when Pearson's tactics were dodgy. At the moment we're playing the most turgid, dire stuff imaginable and the players don't look like they want to play for Ranieri. There have apparently already been a number of 'clear the air' meetings, which have had negligible impact on performances. Once a manager loses the dressing room, it's very, very hard for him to get it back. And there's no sign whatsoever that the players respect Ranieri or want him as their manager. They're playing as if they want him sacked.
Guest MattP Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 Stay, I still couldn't bring myself to get rid. I don't know why, I just can't. Though I realise I'm hanging onto idealism. My anger is still more directed at the players than the manager.
antspants Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 1 hour ago, justfoxes said: He's 3/1 on for the sack race by all accounts? http://www.thesackrace.com/news/1st-february-2017/claudio-ranieris-odds-slashed-in-the-premier-league-sack-race I'm sure somebody has said it elsewhere already, but if Ranieri is having any thoughts about resigning then I'd think the day after the transfer window has closed, when he we've been unable to recruit what he presumably wanted, provides the best excuse for an immediate exit... "I wasn't supported financially by the owners to recruit the replacements and back up we need in key areas on the pitch, I therefore find myself questioning the ambition of the club..."
Guest LCFC_World Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 Like Brexit we have to go by majority. It's been nice having you ..
elvisfmcfly Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 1 hour ago, A86Allen said: I'm still positive about Claudio, i think the man deserves the Man Utd and Swansea games atleast! No doubt he frustates me with his player choices but i believe he can turn things round. I love how all the games he deserves keeps getting pushed back,eventually we'll run out of games and be too late which it may already be.
adamlcfcbevo85 Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 1 hour ago, justfoxes said: He's 3/1 on for the sack race by all accounts? http://www.thesackrace.com/news/1st-february-2017/claudio-ranieris-odds-slashed-in-the-premier-league-sack-race Gone down massive in odds was still 20/1 last weekend
Raw Dykes Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 20 minutes ago, m4DD0gg said: 1 in 3 want him gone and thats just on here. 1 in 3? It's more like 4 in 5.
Bluebeemer Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 In a better position than Feb 2015 with Pearson
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