Guest Col city fan Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 I don't know what's aggravating me more. Ranieri's insistence that 'we played well' or 'The Doctor's' defence of the indefensible. Bad night. I can't suffer fools no longer
Kitchandro Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 7 minutes ago, The Doctor said: What? We defended well limiting them to pot shots... You obviously missed the scrambles in the box, the free headers and the several times Gray got in behind those tall buildings we call our centre backs.
lcfcben76 Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 Just now, FrankieADZ said: tbh I think the Seville game is a bonus and not as important as staying in the league, the prem is more important tbh Agree, we would all love to beat Sevilla but reality is even if we pulled off a miracle there we wouldn't in the next round, league is key with a decent crack at the fa cup
Mike Oxlong Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 I love Ranieri. But I love my club more. So my head says go but it's difficult to answer without knowing who we would/could get in
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 2 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said: tbh I think the Seville game is a bonus and not as important as staying in the league, the prem is more important tbh Depends - we could get a pasting out there.
EGBFitness Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 Just now, DJ Barry Hammond said: Depends - we will get a pasting out there.
Ian Nacho Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 This time last week I was saying we should keep Ranieri but now I don't know anymore. He seems to have lost it unfortunately but I hope he proves me wrong.
Kitchandro Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 1 minute ago, EGBFitness said: However much you will call the players, it's CR who are picking and managing these players, our league performance and position falls only on the shoulders of CR. Then so is the case for last season. He gets all the credit for winning the league, I assume? All parties need to accept responsibility here. Tired of excuses being made for these multi-millionaires underperforming so badly and not giving a shit.
mattsmith74 Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 I hate to say it but I simply cannot see any way this is going to change. The football is woeful and it looks like no one has any idea how to change things. The problem is just who is there available to take over? The owners must be in despair. Had biggest transfer budget in club's history and look what we've done with it. Worst thing is we are becoming a laughing stock.
lifted*fox Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 2 minutes ago, The Doctor said: They didn't get in behind that often though. Even when were were pounding teams left right and centre in the championship sides had a couple of moments, saying they had a couple of good chances doesn't discredit the defensive performance as a whole. I'm sorry dude but you're wrong. If the shoe was on the other foot and we'd peppered their goal as much as they did ours we'd be saying 'we dicked Burnley tonight and deserved to win'. Come on man, wake up. We were shit, again.
lee7 Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 He has to go and needs to be replaced by a manager who will A) guarantee safety and B) get us playing passing football. I can't say it enough but I am sick of watching us play aimless hoofball every single match.
The Doctor Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 3 minutes ago, Kitchandro said: You obviously missed the scrambles in the box, the free headers and the several times Gray got in behind those tall buildings we call our centre backs. He got in behind twice. Flashed one wide, Schmeichel made a great stop from the other. The scrambles in the box amounted to as much as ours in the first five minutes, and there weren't that many free headers to make up for the other 20 odd shots. The majority were speculative. Just like the majority of our attempts on target.
The Doctor Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 2 minutes ago, daz*dsb said: I'm sorry dude but you're wrong. If the shoe was on the other foot and we'd peppered their goal as much as they did ours we'd be saying 'we dicked Burnley tonight and deserved to win'. Come on man, wake up. We were shit, again. I'm not arguing that though. I'm arguing that we actually defended well. They were the only ones who tried to attack, even if we repelled them well, our negativity was rightly punished, but it would be easy to argue our defending merited a point.
EGBFitness Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 4 minutes ago, Kitchandro said: Then so is the case for last season. He gets all the credit for winning the league, I assume? All parties need to accept responsibility here. Tired of excuses being made for these multi-millionaires underperforming so badly and not giving a shit. Yes as I put previously - obviously he gets the majority of the plaudits for last season. Same goes for this season, yes players need to take some responsibility but it's CR management this year that has put us where we are now. It's CR who picks the team, tactics, game management etc we are outplayed and outclassed by every opposition we face.
iamafox Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 Never wanted it to be this way, I just can't defend Claudio anymore. He's had ample time to turn things around and now we know he isn't capable of doing so. And I don't think he realises that we are in a perilous situation. Whenever he comes out and says something positive about our performance on the back of a terrible defeat, you know he hasn't got a clue. Got to go.
Bernieboots76 Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 Time is fast running out and instead of pulling away we are just being sucked in even more. If we do not get positive results in the next two matches then the chairman will have to make a decision if to stick or twist because there is no sign of anything getting better I think he will stick as he did with Pearson but I would be tempted to twist as something is wrong and Ranieri does not seem able to fix it.
AS78UK Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 Sad to say he needs to go. My reluctance is there is no obvious replacement. Been a poor window, not finding suitable replacements for our poor performing centre backs is a concern. A new manager might actually get the players to play to prove there worth. That short term boost could be enough to gain some points and move away from the bottom 3.
crazyleicester Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 38 minutes ago, EGBFitness said: Yes fame and fortune could go to their head but our team aren't the first crop of players to deal with medi attention, gifts, pay rises and international call ups - if that's the case I'm surprised the likes of Real Madrid and Barcelona ever exists now as the players who play for them must be x10 as bad as ours. No one was complaining of the media attention last season, the mid season holiday break rewards, international call ups or january transfer interest/players dubbed next best thing. Our performances are poor, players look disinterested/potential CR has lost the dressing room, players publicly announcing wanting to leave and CR handling, poor results. However much you will call the players, it's CR who are picking and managing these players, our league performance and position falls only on the shoulders of CR. To me they are acting like a load of Jeremy Kyle guests who won the lottery who have then spent the 6 months walking around wasting their lives away. I may joke about how they are acting but seriously these players are letting us down not Claudio. As head coach he always gets it in the neck so much has happened that was uncontrollable from Kante and Walsh going, Shakespere buggering off to help England and all the stuff I mentioned in my previous post. Had CR tinkered too much or not giving Gray a chance or introduced Chilwell. Had he not been brave in subbing Vardy at times and switching Albrighton and Mahrez etc etc I would have said, WTF? However, this dude is doing his best and I cant say that of our players. Not many have actually played to their ability IMO and to say its down to Claudio is a major kop out.
cc_star Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 We played well, just need to stick together No we need a bust up, an Ostrich moment, a sacking, we need a spark that builds the siege mentality that past managers has very fostered in tough times Ranieri is phoning it in, he's on autopilot He HAS to go Look at Swansea, Hull, not just results but how their play has improved
Guy Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 I think the general consensus is that as much as we still love Claudio as a person and for what he continued to do after Pearson and co's invaluable legacy that was left before the start of last season (to make the unprecedented miracle happen), it is now time for him to step down after this latest away disaster - and with a blank score sheet and still not a singular away league win. Yes, granted that we only had 22 points at the end of March under Pearson two years ago and were all out of hope, as well as being seven points off four from bottom after the 4-3 Spurs defeat but that proved to be an entirely different team with fight and a never say die spirit....in stark contrast to this "still hungover from last season" squad! Now though it's surely crying out for a managerial change, as late in the day as it is, as I can't see us winning 7 in 9 like the great escape season now and when we even put the Champions elect to the sword for one half during that amazing escape. Some of Ranieri's team formations, selections and tactics have been truly baffling as much as dreadful this season, so much so that I'm starting to now think that last season was a total fluke! :-\ Who to bring in, only one obvious choice for me but that would probably not be at all popular on here and no longer likely in the grander scheme of things either! Are the Thais shooting themselves in the foot here by sticking with Ranieri on the strength of last season alone (of which this season is of course a completely different scenario from then) - or do they know better than us??
Vlad the Fox Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 You can swap the manager as often as you like but we will still be stuck with the same unfit, unfocused, blunt players. We need to rough this season out and hope we survive, if so we will be stronger next year. we also need to stay behind the team, during the great escape season we solidly backed the team throughout this helped when their backs were well and truly against the wall as they weren't terrified to play. We need to do that again now, leave the bitching, abuse and groans to the post match pint and Internet forums and back them like we have done for the previous 2 seasons, show them the spirit to give us some fight. We're in a scrap and we need to fight together not with each other.
Mayofox Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 1 hour ago, Mike Oxlong said: I love Ranieri. But I love my club more. So my head says go but it's difficult to answer without knowing who we would/could get in If he goes, I hope it will be on his terms. And his replacement? Mark Warburton for me.
EGBFitness Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 47 minutes ago, crazyleicester said: To me they are acting like a load of Jeremy Kyle guests who won the lottery who have then spent the 6 months walking around wasting their lives away. I may joke about how they are acting but seriously these players are letting us down not Claudio. As head coach he always gets it in the neck so much has happened that was uncontrollable from Kante and Walsh going, Shakespere buggering off to help England and all the stuff I mentioned in my previous post. Had CR tinkered too much or not giving Gray a chance or introduced Chilwell. Had he not been brave in subbing Vardy at times and switching Albrighton and Mahrez etc etc I would have said, WTF? However, this dude is doing his best and I cant say that of our players. Not many have actually played to their ability IMO and to say its down to Claudio is a major kop out. I can give so many examples of a team of apparent no hopers and soon as manager has been changed a turn in fortune happens with results. I havent fully disagreed with you in terms of the players, they do need to take some responsibility but it will and always will fall to the manager. It's his squad, his team selection, his tactics, his game management etc etc it's unfair to use the Kante and Walsh situations because I don't think we will ever find out the true reasonings behind them, wether CR had a part to play in them leaving or not no one knows, what we do know is how poor we have been this season, tactically outclassed by opposition, outplayed by opposition and CR openly admitting tactical errors. Id like to imagine CR is doing his best but this is a results business and if his best isn't up to the standard the club require then it's time to go. Out of curiosity, what do you think was the reason we won the league last season?
Jimothy Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 1 hour ago, Finno said: And does this vote make anyone feel any better ? I'm gonna guess no, seeing as over 80% want him gone but he's still here.
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