Izzy Posted 8 February 2017 Posted 8 February 2017 3 minutes ago, Bob Weasel Fox said: Does Ranieri deserve some credit then after tonight's result? People are a bit slow strangely on that one i know one swallow doesn't make a summer and all that jazz but come on guys glass half full for a change maybe? Up the Foxes Ave it Bob! Keep up the positivity me old China
Tuna Posted 8 February 2017 Posted 8 February 2017 On 07/02/2017 at 13:02, The Doctor said: Howe failed at Burnley and was back at Bournemouth within 18 months... Rubbish, he moved back to the South Coast for family reasons and signed half the team Dyche won promotion with (Ings, Vokes, Shackell, Mee, Trippier).
Guest Mickyblueeyes Posted 8 February 2017 Posted 8 February 2017 8 minutes ago, Bob Weasel Fox said: Does Ranieri deserve some credit then after tonight's result? People are a bit slow strangely on that one i know one swallow doesn't make a summer and all that jazz but come on guys glass half full for a change maybe? Up the Foxes Yes - he made the right decision. Probably delayed substitutions a bit longer than I liked but we grew stronger into the game and a win with playing what is a second team is always one that should be credited to the manager. Enough players today showed they were above derby which suggests that they're up to prem standard. That creates competition which is always a positive. Well done to ranieri for that. The team ram kept the ball on the floor more often than not and if that is the way forward the rest will fall into place. Well done Claudio. he gave his creative players freedom to do the damage so got the tactics right in the end. Well done Claudio. however - we started slow and maybe that was linked to the many changes. It's up for debate. finally, it is one game and we have had that before this season. The Swansea game is massive and Claudio got enough food for thought tonight. If some of those who performed well tonight do not start on Saturday, it will be disappointing. I've said it once and I will say it again - prove me wrong. Please - I won't give blind faith to anyone nor will I criticise anyone for the sake of it. I just want the trip to the KP to entertain me - win lose or draw - they are paid to entertain and in that extra time period (and the second half) they did that. So thank you, Claudio.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 8 February 2017 Author Posted 8 February 2017 1 minute ago, Mickyblueeyes said: Yes - he made the right decision. Probably delayed substitutions a bit longer than I liked but we grew stronger into the game and a win with playing what is a second team is always one that should be credited to the manager. Enough players today showed they were above derby which suggests that they're up to prem standard. That creates competition which is always a positive. Well done to ranieri for that. The team ram kept the ball on the floor more often than not and if that is the way forward the rest will fall into place. Well done Claudio. he gave his creative players freedom to do the damage so got the tactics right in the end. Well done Claudio. however - we started slow and maybe that was linked to the many changes. It's up for debate. finally, it is one game and we have had that before this season. The Swansea game is massive and Claudio got enough food for thought tonight. If some of those who performed well tonight do not start on Saturday, it will be disappointing. I've said it once and I will say it again - prove me wrong. Please - I won't give blind faith to anyone nor will I criticise anyone for the sake of it. I just want the trip to the KP to entertain me - win lose or draw - they are paid to entertain and in that extra time period (and the second half) they did that. So thank you, Claudio. Great balanced post and for what it is worth I want the same as you, to be entertained by the team putting some effort in and trying etc etc this continues next game etc i know it's just as likely to revert back to type but come on everyone glass half full for a bit up the Foxes
Mike Oxlong Posted 9 February 2017 Posted 9 February 2017 In times of trigger happy chairmen and £ motivated players for whom contracts mean jack-shit I'm quite proud that we have owners who are willing to show patience and loyalty to Ranieri just as they did to Pearson before the Great Escape.
STUHILL Posted 9 February 2017 Posted 9 February 2017 1 minute ago, Mike Oxlong said: In times of trigger happy chairmen and £ motivated players for whom contracts mean jack-shit I'm quite proud that we have owners who are willing to show patience and loyalty to Ranieri just as they did to Pearson before the Great Escape. Have to agree. I'm not sure I would have had this much patience but I hope they know a lot more of what's going on behind the scenes, and if the player's are genuinely behind Claudio still, then it could prove to be the best decision. I think the key will be the performance this weekend from the usual starters and whether we see a real reaction, after everything that has happened and come out in the last week. For me, if there is little to no reaction again, then Claudio has to drop 4-5 of them and go with players like Benny, Chillwell, Amartey until the end of the season. Last chance for some of these players on Sunday, and I hope they know it too!
Clever Fox Posted 9 February 2017 Posted 9 February 2017 I just want him to play players on merit and in their best positions like Mahrez and Albrighton together on the right. With Gray on the left and Slim in the middle. We need to take the game to the opposition as it keeps them as far away from our defence as possible. I'd also like to see more mobility throughout the Team as that's where you find space. Benny proved last night that he has what it takes to defend and link with the midfield. If he doesn't play then CR really has lost his way.
ImBlue Posted 9 February 2017 Posted 9 February 2017 Great to see the support again at derby game for Ranieri, and for Ranieri to acknowledge it.
Izzy Posted 9 February 2017 Posted 9 February 2017 2 minutes ago, ImBlue said: Great to see the support again at derby game for Ranieri, and for Ranieri to acknowledge it. I reckon he looked a quite emotional when we sang his name. I know he has his faults, but deep down I reckon he cares deeply for our club and supporters...
LesterRam Posted 9 February 2017 Posted 9 February 2017 2 minutes ago, ImBlue said: Great to see the support again at derby game for Ranieri, and for Ranieri to acknowledge it. Who else would you employ, nobody jumps out as an ideal candidate, he would walk into any job in Europe for 10x his current wage if you moved him on, you should feel blessed you have him.
ImBlue Posted 9 February 2017 Posted 9 February 2017 4 minutes ago, LesterRam said: Who else would you employ, nobody jumps out as an ideal candidate, he would walk into any job in Europe for 10x his current wage if you moved him on, you should feel blessed you have him. What
LesterRam Posted 9 February 2017 Posted 9 February 2017 35 minutes ago, ImBlue said: What sorry sweetpea, I had two tabs open and cut you in on the wrong one, you are right obviously
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 10 February 2017 Author Posted 10 February 2017 19 hours ago, Izzy Muzzett said: I reckon he looked a quite emotional when we sang his name. I know he has his faults, but deep down I reckon he cares deeply for our club and supporters... Yes indeed he is an honest and sincere man, in other words a fvcking rarity in life these days up the Ranieri up the Foxes
Karlos-da-gr8-Fox Posted 10 February 2017 Posted 10 February 2017 On 08/02/2017 at 23:22, Bob Weasel Fox said: Does Ranieri deserve some credit then after tonight's result? People are a bit slow strangely on that one i know one swallow doesn't make a summer and all that jazz but come on guys glass half full for a change maybe? Up the Foxes well i guve him credit for this team selection. he did changes even i didnt think would work but he pulled it off, now oneards and upwards bring on the swans i feel positive and going for a 3-1 win with vardy to bag a brace. funny how one game can change opinion and belief but this is football after all
foxinsocks Posted 10 February 2017 Posted 10 February 2017 When this all works out we will all be better and stronger
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 11 February 2017 Author Posted 11 February 2017 14 hours ago, foxinsocks said: When this all works out we will all be better and stronger Let's keep the glass half full feeling and keep working away and building things back up positivity is what is needed up the Foxes
Thracian Posted 11 February 2017 Posted 11 February 2017 On a match basis every fan should support Ranieri and all the members of our team but I wanted Ranieri gone six weeks into the new season because his nature is not to attack as such but to get ahead and defend. He doesn't seem to recognise that the best defence is to be good enough to keep attacking and putting fear into opposition defences rather than conceding anything. Home or away given the reward of three points whatever the case. Of course it's nececessary to vary tactics according to specific opponents but fundamentally, the key is just as in the military, you need to assemble weapons of such threat to the opposition that they have to vary their approach to contain you, rather than the other way round. This also offers the added bonus of making your style of play attractive to watch and of far more interest to the media - and therefore your global branding - than ever cautious, defence-based strategies will be. If reality even our attacking capabilities are being compromised by the fact that our defenders are too slow and incapable of supporting offensive play because they don't have the quick, close control and they can't recover from any breakdown quickly enough. On top of that they don't even offer much in attacking, dead-ball situations in the way that people like our old centre-back Steve Walsh used to do, or someone like Jackie Charlton in the past. It's a little thing but I remember MON using our big men like kamikaze raiders into opposition penalty boxes in the past. There was Walsh, Elliot, Heskey, Marshall and the diminutive Tony Cottee at the near post causing absolute panic every time we had a Guppy corner or free kick. Today, we offer very little threat at all - either in delivering the ball past the first defenders or in getting anyone onto to the end of it. We're far too easily marked and so lacking in any kind of practised strategy on more than an occasional basis. Gray improved that aspect against Derby. He does seem capable to delivering a fairly venemous cross with reasonable accuracy, a decent amount of spin and the necessary thought. But whoever makes the delivery this needs to apply consistently and always with a specific purpose rather than a hit and hope attitude. The same applies with free-kicks. You get nowhere without rehearsal and nothing without accurate outcomes. Everything about attacking football relates to putting people under pressure and encouraging mistakes. You can't do that with two defensive banks of four and a lack of blistering pace, support and commitment on the break. Components of football teams have to work in tandem with every part complimenting the other. We've not had this season at all.
VLC86 Posted 11 February 2017 Posted 11 February 2017 Just spent the last hour balling my eyes out while watching highlights of last season. Hopefully Derby was the turning point for us and Ranieri recognises now what he needs to do to get the results to finish the season strongly. We surely still have it within us to go on a run and finish mid table let alone avoid relegation.
Guest CityFan 06 Posted 11 February 2017 Posted 11 February 2017 52 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said: Just spent the last hour balling my eyes out while watching highlights of last season. Hopefully Derby was the turning point for us and Ranieri recognises now what he needs to do to get the results to finish the season strongly. We surely still have it within us to go on a run and finish mid table let alone avoid relegation. We're definitely capable of going on a run, the squad has the ability to do that. However, you can tell in games the team just do not seem to have the same buzz or energy between them. I think this is why some, including me, have questioned whether they are playing for the manager. If we get a few good results together, it will be such a boost. Just look at Hull & Swansea, they both looked re energised since picking up in form. Once, or if we get some momentum going, I think we'll be fine because as last season proved, when these players have momentum, they pick up points week after week. Momentum isn't what we have right now, and it all looks unlikely, but we've just gotta hope we turn it around and get ourselves away from the relegation zone.
Thracian Posted 11 February 2017 Posted 11 February 2017 21 hours ago, Bob Weasel Fox said: Yes indeed he is an honest and sincere man, in other words a fvcking rarity in life these days up the Ranieri up the Foxes The Ulloa saga didn't seem to give that impression.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 11 February 2017 Author Posted 11 February 2017 7 minutes ago, Thracian said: The Ulloa saga didn't seem to give that impression. He is putting the team first, I wholeheartedly agree with him. Harsh on Ulloa but there again he hasn't exactly covered himself in glory on that subject
Thracian Posted 11 February 2017 Posted 11 February 2017 8 minutes ago, Bob Weasel Fox said: He is putting the team first, I wholeheartedly agree with him. Harsh on Ulloa but there again he hasn't exactly covered himself in glory on that subject He could have said exactly that to Ulloa or his agent and I wouldn't have seen a problem whether he was right or not. But that's not the way it seems to have been. Being told how important he was and being all-but sidelined from a totally underperforming team - including attack wise - might be something you'd accept but a good many wouldn't. Perhaps Ranieri would explain honestly why he keeps picking Vardy. I think the answer would be the wages we're paying him compared with the much lower level Ulloa's getting but I doubt he'd admit it.Yet I can't think of any other justification for such decisions. at least relating to this season. Even his renowned pace has been hard to spot. It's been rather like someone turning a tap on full two or three times a day and for a few seconds at a time. Nothing more. As for the deft control and quick feet he demonstated on many-an-occasion last season that could be a reference from The Bible, it seems so long ago now.
foxinsocks Posted 11 February 2017 Posted 11 February 2017 When managing talent it is important to be clear.... it is useful if one is prepared to explain reasoning but not compulsary. Eddie jones drops or excludes players.... yet he tells them exactly what they must do to be a contender. I would have thought that ulloa must be happy with his wages.. he signed a contract... yet he will want to be picked. ... i hope ranieri has set out what he needs to do
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 11 February 2017 Author Posted 11 February 2017 2 hours ago, Thracian said: He could have said exactly that to Ulloa or his agent and I wouldn't have seen a problem whether he was right or not. But that's not the way it seems to have been. Being told how important he was and being all-but sidelined from a totally underperforming team - including attack wise - might be something you'd accept but a good many wouldn't. Perhaps Ranieri would explain honestly why he keeps picking Vardy. I think the answer would be the wages we're paying him compared with the much lower level Ulloa's getting but I doubt he'd admit it.Yet I can't think of any other justification for such decisions. at least relating to this season. Even his renowned pace has been hard to spot. It's been rather like someone turning a tap on full two or three times a day and for a few seconds at a time. Nothing more. As for the deft control and quick feet he demonstated on many-an-occasion last season that could be a reference from The Bible, it seems so long ago now. Well now if you are saying why is Vardy being picked ahead of Ulloa that is a completely different subject, different styles of player etc etc? I would compare Ulloa to Slimani probs a bit more?
ithuriel Posted 11 February 2017 Posted 11 February 2017 Well, since the Chairman has backed Claudio regardless of what has happened this season then it is time to get behind the man, no point bitching about things now so sit back and enjoy the ride and hope. This team reminds me of the crazy mecha anime Gurren Lagann, where Evangelion was a downer Gurren was optimistic and crazy as ****, even with the best bro character dying, you never give up, ever. Love this theme.
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