HankMarvin Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 29 minutes ago, Dickov22 said: We were playing 442 with many changes in personnel you mean. I think Steve Claridge nails it here https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/2801537/claudio-ranieris-leicester-won-premier-league-as-a-smooth-machine-now-so-many-parts-have-broken-it-might-be-time-he-went/
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 7 February 2017 Author Posted 7 February 2017 42 minutes ago, filbertway said: If anything, his long term record says it's pretty much a rapid decline after year one with a club. What (if any other than Sir Alex) managers have sustained long spells of success, most are impact managers and apart from a few here and there most eventually decline now the rate Ranieri is getting the blame for this decline is staggering for anyone to understand to be fair players have rested on their laurels on big fat contracts that mean they don't have to give a **** anymore and clearly they don't, Kasper and one or two others aside
cityfanlee23 Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 I'm more than happy for Ranieri to stay if he just pulls his finger out and gets them trying, this is pretty much the only reason I want him to go at present, he cannot get them doing the basics that we mastered last season. It's evidently clear he has very little command over the players. Antonio Conte on Costa - "I was very clear with him and raised my voice: and the player understood." Start rasing your voice Claudio.
STUHILL Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 Derby and Swansea will be key for me. Two big performances, and he has my backing. More of the same, and we have to look for a change or we will surely go down. I hope the owners are already doing their search (quietly) and seeing who is possibly available, as we can't afford a period of uncertainty or to make a Remy Garde type appointment! Come on Claudio, 2 BIG wins desperately needed.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 7 February 2017 Author Posted 7 February 2017 26 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said: I'm more than happy for Ranieri to stay if he just pulls his finger out and gets them trying, this is pretty much the only reason I want him to go at present, he cannot get them doing the basics that we mastered last season. It's evidently clear he has very little command over the players. Antonio Conte on Costa - "I was very clear with him and raised my voice: and the player understood." Start rasing your voice Claudio. I agree
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 7 February 2017 Author Posted 7 February 2017 26 minutes ago, STUHILL said: Derby and Swansea will be key for me. Two big performances, and he has my backing. More of the same, and we have to look for a change or we will surely go down. I hope the owners are already doing their search (quietly) and seeing who is possibly available, as we can't afford a period of uncertainty or to make a Remy Garde type appointment! Come on Claudio, 2 BIG wins desperately needed. Yep I think most of us agree the next 2 games are vital either way
STUHILL Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 1 minute ago, Bob Weasel Fox said: Yep I think most of us agree the next 2 games are vital either way I am just hoping the Man U performance has made us hit rock bottom and will finally wake the players up and we will see a real intensity and passion against Derby and Swansea.
Babylon Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 35 minutes ago, Bob Weasel Fox said: What (if any other than Sir Alex) managers have sustained long spells of success, most are impact managers and apart from a few here and there most eventually decline now the rate Ranieri is getting the blame for this decline is staggering for anyone to understand to be fair players have rested on their laurels on big fat contracts that mean they don't have to give a **** anymore and clearly they don't, Kasper and one or two others aside Yes of course that's part of the problem, but this was predictable wasn't it? I flagged this up as being a potential issue in the summer, as well as a few other things. That's the job of the club and most of all the manger to see this coming and prepare for it. To make sure the players are properly motivated and moved on from last season. The issues started before the season kicked off and we're paying for it now.
Babylon Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 5 minutes ago, STUHILL said: I am just hoping the Man U performance has made us hit rock bottom and will finally wake the players up and we will see a real intensity and passion against Derby and Swansea. I've been hoping that for the last three months and seen no sign of it.
STUHILL Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 1 minute ago, Babylon said: I've been hoping that for the last three months and seen no sign of it. Agreed! I said the same thing to myself after Burnley and many times earlier...
Guest Col city fan Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 8 minutes ago, Babylon said: I've been hoping that for the last three months and seen no sign of it. Bloody right!
filbertway Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 1 hour ago, Bob Weasel Fox said: What (if any other than Sir Alex) managers have sustained long spells of success, most are impact managers and apart from a few here and there most eventually decline now the rate Ranieri is getting the blame for this decline is staggering for anyone to understand to be fair players have rested on their laurels on big fat contracts that mean they don't have to give a **** anymore and clearly they don't, Kasper and one or two others aside Off the top of my head Pearson at Leicester Howe at Burnley Pulis at Stoke Klopp at Dortmund Pulis at West Brom
The Doctor Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 2 minutes ago, filbertway said: Pearson at Leicester Howe at Burnley Howe failed at Burnley and was back at Bournemouth within 18 months...
filbertway Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 4 minutes ago, The Doctor said: Howe failed at Burnley and was back at Bournemouth within 18 months... Haha whoops, that was meant to say Bournemouth! and Dyche at Burnley. I've just combined them into the worst possible combo
Zola Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 Check whole video and see who should take majority of blame.. http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/teams/leicester-city/10757868/what-now-for-leicester
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 7 February 2017 Author Posted 7 February 2017 4 hours ago, Babylon said: Yes of course that's part of the problem, but this was predictable wasn't it? I flagged this up as being a potential issue in the summer, as well as a few other things. That's the job of the club and most of all the manger to see this coming and prepare for it. To make sure the players are properly motivated and moved on from last season. The issues started before the season kicked off and we're paying for it now. What's the answer babs? personally think give him at least these next 2/3 games but I also think if we get beat by Derby and Swansea it really will be looking bleak then . . . .
Babylon Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 Just now, Bob Weasel Fox said: What's the answer babs? personally think give him at least these next 2/3 games but I also think if we get beat by Derby and Swansea it really will be looking bleak then . . . . I hope to god I'm wrong... I just can't see an answer that has him in charge. If it was there I'm fairly sure we'd have seen a glimmer of something by now as he's had all season to fix the problem. We seem to be going out game after game with the same game plan. Whatever the hell that might be, it's almost impossible to know what it is. I think it would need a manager who has an identity and way of playing that the players can buy into. Currently I'm pinning my hopes on Slimani coming back and scoring a few goals. Or Claudio throwing caution to the wind and playing attacking full backs to create options.
Realist Guy In The Room Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 6 minutes ago, Babylon said: I hope to god I'm wrong... I just can't see an answer that has him in charge. If it was there I'm fairly sure we'd have seen a glimmer of something by now as he's had all season to fix the problem. We seem to be going out game after game with the same game plan. Whatever the hell that might be, it's almost impossible to know what it is. I think it would need a manager who has an identity and way of playing that the players can buy into. Currently I'm pinning my hopes on Slimani coming back and scoring a few goals. Or Claudio throwing caution to the wind and playing attacking full backs to create options. This really sums it up for me. There just isnt anything in the games that makes me think something can happen. I dont know if the idea is to press, sit back, break quickly, build slowly as they dont seem to be doing any of them for any amount of time to suggest a strategy. If we were getting unlucky with decisions, missing easy chances or being involved in end to end thrillers but losing 4-3, i'd still have faith we could pull it around but there just isnt a sign of any of it. Admirable that the owners have take the stance they have but it will mean Championship football next year. Of that i'm sure.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 7 February 2017 Author Posted 7 February 2017 Now the club have done the decent thing and back Ranieri let's all get behind the team and cheer them on to a couple of positive results against Derby and Swansea then maybe just maybe get our arse in gear finally Leicester beat Derby and Swansea
Manwell Pablo Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 20 hours ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: May I remind you, that the owners didn't sack Pearson, although we were sitting for 140 days at the bottom of the table. This season, so far, we didn't spend a single day in the drop-zone. Sacking Pearson would have been much more justified. But they didn't to it either. Why??? There may have been/be some gentlemen's agreement between the owners and their managers, that made/make it impossible for them to sack Pearson back then and Ranieri now. In Asia ( and in Italy), going back on your word is almost a deadly sin for a man. My guess: if they had to chose between LCFC going down, or going back on their word, they would chose the former. Pearson bit of a different case in point. Pearson didn't have half of the resources raneri has had. If Pearson had spent 70 million over the two transfer windows and we were bottom I'm sure it would of been a different matte. Appreciate CR may not have exactly hand picked the players in question but I'm not having he wasn't involved in recruitment at all.
smr Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 6 hours ago, STUHILL said: I am just hoping the Man U performance has made us hit rock bottom and will finally wake the players up and we will see a real intensity and passion against Derby and Swansea. can't get any worse than that second half and those goals surely.
Karlos-da-gr8-Fox Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 i believe it all rests on the derby game, if we lose to derby then nothing has sank in with ranieri and the players. if we give them a stuffing then it will be a turning point to carry forward we need to use this game as confidence booster to bolster us forward or otherwise a loss will be our warm up for championship next season... either way. derby game i believe is make or break claudio make some bleddy changes please
Sionnach gorm Posted 8 February 2017 Posted 8 February 2017 What utter nonesense. Ranieri dismissal will only compound our problems further. If anyone know how to motivate players it's him. He's known for that. The biggest issue is we overreached last year (and thankfully so). Ranieri has always been a victim of his own success. Taking middling teams to heights until the truth comes out. Let him rebuild this team, get them to understand each other's play and we'll see ourselves at the top again. The Prem is notorious for sending good managers off and then paying the price. We send him off and we're done for years. I see a Forest in our future with this kind of talk.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 8 February 2017 Author Posted 8 February 2017 On 07/02/2017 at 19:59, Karlos-da-gr8-Fox said: i believe it all rests on the derby game, if we lose to derby then nothing has sank in with ranieri and the players. if we give them a stuffing then it will be a turning point to carry forward we need to use this game as confidence booster to bolster us forward or otherwise a loss will be our warm up for championship next season... either way. derby game i believe is make or break claudio make some bleddy changes please Does Ranieri deserve some credit then after tonight's result? People are a bit slow strangely on that one i know one swallow doesn't make a summer and all that jazz but come on guys glass half full for a change maybe? Up the Foxes
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