Koke Posted 26 February 2017 Posted 26 February 2017 His only successful signing has been Kante. The following players were signed under his reign: Hernandez Kante Benalouane Gray Mendy Amartey Slimani Musa Zieler Ndidi Inler Kapustka 12 signings. 2 defenders. 1 keeper. 5 midfielders. 4 attacking players. Kante was exceptional. Gray and Ndidi look good but the rest have had little to no impact. Ranieri was incapable of adding and rebuilding the team. Even if he kept us up I'm convinced he'd take us down next season.
Guest Col city fan Posted 26 February 2017 Posted 26 February 2017 1 hour ago, Koke said: His only successful signing has been Kante. The following players were signed under his reign: Hernandez Kante Benalouane Gray Mendy Amartey Slimani Musa Zieler Ndidi Inler Kapustka 12 signings. 2 defenders. 1 keeper. 5 midfielders. 4 attacking players. Kante was exceptional. Gray and Ndidi look good but the rest have had little to no impact. Ranieri was incapable of adding and rebuilding the team. Even if he kept us up I'm convinced he'd take us down next season. Crikey...what a lot of garbage for a lot of money..he should have been sacked on that bloody list alone!
Koke Posted 26 February 2017 Posted 26 February 2017 3 minutes ago, Col city fan said: Crikey...what a lot of garbage for a lot of money..he should have been sacked on that bloody list alone! £110m that whole list. Some of them might turn out to be good for us in the future but Christ that's a lot of money. Especially considering our last PL games 9 of the 11 starters were already at the club when Ranieri arrived.
Guest Col city fan Posted 26 February 2017 Posted 26 February 2017 5 minutes ago, Koke said: £110m that whole list. Some of them might turn out to be good for us in the future but Christ that's a lot of money. Especially considering our last PL games 9 of the 11 starters were already at the club when Ranieri arrived. That was my first thought Koke...he wasn't even playing many of them! Bizarre
richm77 Posted 26 February 2017 Posted 26 February 2017 Kante deal was in motion and almost over the line when Ranieri joined, so can't really be classed as his signing
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 26 February 2017 Posted 26 February 2017 There is a lot of talk of the praise, awards and new contracts associated with last season going to the players heads... but there is a picture emerging that these factors could have effected Claudio too.
Kaewbudda Posted 26 February 2017 Posted 26 February 2017 3 minutes ago, Worthington said: Just a point though......There's some Walsh involvement there ! Both Slimani and Musa were mentioned as targets BEFORE NP 'left the building' plus, I understand, Mendy too had been identified as 'target number one' to shore things up early in 2015 with Kante as the 'back-up' option. Despite the history of Mendy playing under Ranieri, he wasn't signed on Claudio's recommendation. Similarly, I believe, Zieler and Hernandez were put to CR as potential signings, not suggested by him. Inler & Benny were the two signings Claudio did influence and, whilst neither succeeded, I'd suggest that's a rather shorter list of 'dross' than we started with! Gray, Ndidi, Kapustka, Amartey..??? All young, developing talents who may/may not turn out to be great for us...Surely naïve to write them off as failures though? Thanks for pointing this out. Walsh had been tracking Musa for a considerable period of time and we actually tried to sign him earlier but were unable to do so. 100 million is an astronomical amount of money relative to the history of LCFC. 100 million is not that much relative to the financial expenditure of today's PL clubs. An unpalatable truth for a lot us might be that sometimes signings don't work out. We have been spectacularly successful in recent years. It's been the opposite this year. Before we start slagging CR off for 'his' signings it's worth remembering the signings he made when he was the Chelsea manager. At the time this was considered a colossal amount of money for a British club. But lots of the players that he brought in went on to form the successful side that Mourinho later managed. What did CR do wrong? 1) Too defensive. 2) Unable to come up with a Plan B once everyone had sussed us out. 3) Too loyal. Should have dropped Huth and/or Morgan.
Blue ROI Posted 26 February 2017 Posted 26 February 2017 49 minutes ago, Koke said: £110m that whole list. Some of them might turn out to be good for us in the future but Christ that's a lot of money. Especially considering our last PL games 9 of the 11 starters were already at the club when Ranieri arrived. N'Didi aside nearly all of the team that led the fightback in Sevilla was in place before Ranieri arrived. Food for thought.
Jonno84 Posted 26 February 2017 Posted 26 February 2017 Apparently okazaki liked a post on twitter about Claudio's sacking..
Mezeker Posted 26 February 2017 Posted 26 February 2017 For me the main thing, as i stated in preseason was how to adapt to the loss of Kante. This includes his terrible signings. Everything else happened as a result of these things, domino effect.
Wymsey Posted 26 February 2017 Posted 26 February 2017 Just now, Jonno84 said: Apparently okazaki liked a post on twitter about Claudio's sacking.. He probably did it by accident, his finger slipped and touched the like button - like he slips often on the pitch.
Jonno84 Posted 26 February 2017 Posted 26 February 2017 1 minute ago, Wymeswold fox said: He probably did it by accident, his finger slipped and touched the like button - like he slips often on the pitch.
weller54 Posted 26 February 2017 Posted 26 February 2017 1 hour ago, Koke said: £110m that whole list. Some of them might turn out to be good for us in the future but Christ that's a lot of money. Especially considering our last PL games 9 of the 11 starters were already at the club when Ranieri arrived. One Pogba! ..it's not that much for the champions of England to spend in all fairness.
AmarteyAndChill Posted 26 February 2017 Posted 26 February 2017 19 minutes ago, Kaewbudda said: Thanks for pointing this out. Walsh had been tracking Musa for a considerable period of time and we actually tried to sign him earlier but were unable to do so. 100 million is an astronomical amount of money relative to the history of LCFC. 100 million is not that much relative to the financial expenditure of today's PL clubs. An unpalatable truth for a lot us might be that sometimes signings don't work out. We have been spectacularly successful in recent years. It's been the opposite this year. Before we start slagging CR off for 'his' signings it's worth remembering the signings he made when he was the Chelsea manager. At the time this was considered a colossal amount of money for a British club. But lots of the players that he brought in went on to form the successful side that Mourinho later managed. What did CR do wrong? 1) Too defensive. 2) Unable to come up with a Plan B once everyone had sussed us out. 3) Too loyal. Should have dropped Huth and/or Morgan. Who's to say Walsh would have bought him in? Just because he tracked him dosent mean he would have signed him.
Dan Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 5 hours ago, FoxinNotts said: Agree. The downfall in not having replacements is partly down to Claudio. He should have been banging the door down asking for new, quality defenders. This too. I know it's not entirely his fault and I bet he must be feeling very let down by the recruitment himself, but I'm not convinced he's really forced them to sort it out. Honestly, that January window completely sums us up at the minute.
sylofox Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 Sack rudkin bring in pearson as dof to rebuild the back room staff.
Guest Col city fan Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 8 hours ago, Kaewbudda said: Thanks for pointing this out. Walsh had been tracking Musa for a considerable period of time and we actually tried to sign him earlier but were unable to do so. 100 million is an astronomical amount of money relative to the history of LCFC. 100 million is not that much relative to the financial expenditure of today's PL clubs. An unpalatable truth for a lot us might be that sometimes signings don't work out. We have been spectacularly successful in recent years. It's been the opposite this year. Before we start slagging CR off for 'his' signings it's worth remembering the signings he made when he was the Chelsea manager. At the time this was considered a colossal amount of money for a British club. But lots of the players that he brought in went on to form the successful side that Mourinho later managed. What did CR do wrong? 1) Too defensive. 2) Unable to come up with a Plan B once everyone had sussed us out. 3) Too loyal. Should have dropped Huth and/or Morgan. I've made this bloody point before! What was the purpose to signing so many kids at the same time? Amartey, Kaputska, Ndidi, Gray....Yes could all be good at some point but it was TOO MUCH TOO SOON. You sign one or two, together with one or two really good older heads and bring them in gradually. The Prem is a tough, rough, results driven business where the games come thick and fast and there are no easy games. What Ranieri appears to have done is to try to sign a team that will be ok in three years time. Not now!? And it's one of the points I've made about Amartey (and many have agreed).. he's been thrown in at the deep end too soon. He's not been given any time to develop. Same with Ndidi who must surely be wondering what the Hell he's come to here at Leicester. Ranieri's squad management, in terms of recruitment and selection has been so so poor at THIS moment in time.
HybridFox Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 39 minutes ago, Col city fan said: I've made this bloody point before! What was the purpose to signing so many kids at the same time? Amartey, Kaputska, Ndidi, Gray....Yes could all be good at some point but it was TOO MUCH TOO SOON. You sign one or two, together with one or two really good older heads and bring them in gradually. The Prem is a tough, rough, results driven business where the games come thick and fast and there are no easy games. What Ranieri appears to have done is to try to sign a team that will be ok in three years time. Not now!? And it's one of the points I've made about Amartey (and many have agreed).. he's been thrown in at the deep end too soon. He's not been given any time to develop. Same with Ndidi who must surely be wondering what the Hell he's come to here at Leicester. Ranieri's squad management, in terms of recruitment and selection has been so so poor at THIS moment in time. Maybe HE got complacent by success too and felt his job was too safe after last year, so started planning for the next few years. Took his eye off the ball unfortunately
Bob Hazels shorts Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 11 hours ago, Koke said: His only successful signing has been Kante. The following players were signed under his reign: Hernandez Kante Benalouane Gray Mendy Amartey Slimani Musa Zieler Ndidi Inler Kapustka 12 signings. 2 defenders. 1 keeper. 5 midfielders. 4 attacking players. Kante was exceptional. Gray and Ndidi look good but the rest have had little to no impact. Ranieri was incapable of adding and rebuilding the team. Even if he kept us up I'm convinced he'd take us down next season. He had to be persuaded to sign Kante
Foxhateram Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 11 hours ago, Koke said: His only successful signing has been Kante. The following players were signed under his reign: Hernandez Kante Benalouane Gray Mendy Amartey Slimani Musa Zieler Ndidi Inler Kapustka 12 signings. 2 defenders. 1 keeper. 5 midfielders. 4 attacking players. Kante was exceptional. Gray and Ndidi look good but the rest have had little to no impact. Ranieri was incapable of adding and rebuilding the team. Even if he kept us up I'm convinced he'd take us down next season. Ranieri has also been quoted as believing N'golo to be too small and weak to play his role effectively. Kante is definitely a Walsh signing. It's been said a few times that Kante was only allowed to join to keep Walsh quiet, Claudio got Inler and said we will see which is best. I know who's judgement i trust best.
Bob Hazels shorts Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 1 hour ago, Col city fan said: I've made this bloody point before! What was the purpose to signing so many kids at the same time? Amartey, Kaputska, Ndidi, Gray....Yes could all be good at some point but it was TOO MUCH TOO SOON. You sign one or two, together with one or two really good older heads and bring them in gradually. The Prem is a tough, rough, results driven business where the games come thick and fast and there are no easy games. What Ranieri appears to have done is to try to sign a team that will be ok in three years time. Not now!? And it's one of the points I've made about Amartey (and many have agreed).. he's been thrown in at the deep end too soon. He's not been given any time to develop. Same with Ndidi who must surely be wondering what the Hell he's come to here at Leicester. Ranieri's squad management, in terms of recruitment and selection has been so so poor at THIS moment in time. Rather than trying several times to replace Kante with similar unknowns a player with a couple of years left would've made sense, not many Cambiassos out there so British based most likely. Then bleed in other players. worked many times previously
Pasty1 Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 11 hours ago, Worthington said: Just a point though......There's some Walsh involvement there ! Both Slimani and Musa were mentioned as targets BEFORE NP 'left the building' plus, I understand, Mendy too had been identified as 'target number one' to shore things up early in 2015 with Kante as the 'back-up' option. Despite the history of Mendy playing under Ranieri, he wasn't signed on Claudio's recommendation. Similarly, I believe, Zieler and Hernandez were put to CR as potential signings, not suggested by him. Inler & Benny were the two signings Claudio did influence and, whilst neither succeeded, I'd suggest that's a rather shorter list of 'dross' than we started with! Gray, Ndidi, Kapustka, Amartey..??? All young, developing talents who may/may not turn out to be great for us...Surely naïve to write them off as failures though? Everything that's gone wrong is Claudio's fault...... No one else.... Should be a breeze tonight then......
Bob Hazels shorts Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 7 hours ago, sylofox said: Sack rudkin bring in person as dof to rebuild the back room staff. Any particular person?
foxy boxing Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 the recruitment too rigid in his approach not listen to or take advice from anyone else too loyal to players that were under performing lacked the leadership to discipline players
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