Almo-Fox Posted 15 May 2017 Posted 15 May 2017 I really do believe that Leicester post-mahrez era started with his interview with Patrick Davidson of sky sports last week What we see nowadays is a smoothly not shocking manner to leave next summer ( different from what kante did ) Shakespeare ( reported in mercury Leicester ) that we didn't receive any official offer for mahrez and we will show him love do to convince him to stay , understand when we receive a proper offer we will discuss it I do believe that just a after the tottenham match on Thursday and before the sat game against boitnemouthb, mahrez will receive a proper offer to enclench the negotiations of his transfer
st albans fox Posted 15 May 2017 Posted 15 May 2017 he says he wants champions league football and to win things. so if he goes to arsenal, what are we going to say ????
Japanfox Posted 15 May 2017 Posted 15 May 2017 Personally I like Mahrez, but the number of offgames he's had makes me think that we can do with out him. If he wants to go then fine. Leicester will do fine without him imo LTID
MattCan Posted 15 May 2017 Posted 15 May 2017 14 minutes ago, Japanfox said: Personally I like Mahrez, but the number of offgames he's had makes me think that we can do with out him. If he wants to go then fine. Leicester will do fine without him imo LTID Well, no one is indispensable. But then, you may be as fine as Millwall.
Babylon Posted 15 May 2017 Posted 15 May 2017 16 minutes ago, Japanfox said: Personally I like Mahrez, but the number of offgames he's had makes me think that we can do with out him. If he wants to go then fine. Leicester will do fine without him imo LTID 4 minutes ago, MattCan said: Well, no one is indispensable. But then, you may be as fine as Millwall. I think there are two different points really. Firstly, I don't think our position in the league would be much different this season whether Mahrez was playing or not. I think that's fair enough when people say we wouldn't have missed him this season. But without someone of his quality and with undoubted ability I think it would be much harder for us to reach a higher level, as he's one of the few players who CAN step up another level. It's getting it out of him that's the issue.
The Floyd Posted 15 May 2017 Posted 15 May 2017 2 hours ago, Redouane said: Disappointing season based on last season's, but he hasn't had a disappointing season compared to his teammates. It absolutely infuriates me when some on here claim that he's getting carried by the rest of the squad. We get it, he hasn't lived up to last season, no one is arguing against that. Not even me, a biased Algerian Mahrez fan agree with that. Mahrez is still the club's second top scorer after Vardy in all competitions, and third after Vardy and Slimani in the premier league. I don't understand if people forget that, or just expect him to outscore Vardy. I definitely think there's a case to argue that we haven't quite seen the same improvement from him since Ranieri left in comparison to others. Rightly or wrongly, Mahrez is exposed to more criticism because we all know just how capable he is, and unlike Albrighton or Okazaki, when he isn't scoring or creating goals, he isn't doing much else. I'm unsure as to whether goals scored is a good measurement of performance but even so, three goals from open play in the PL is poor/average for any winger, let alone Mahrez. I'd love for him to stay but I don't think we'll see the best of him unless he is truly happy to be here, which at the moment is very questionable.
MattCan Posted 15 May 2017 Posted 15 May 2017 8 minutes ago, Babylon said: I think there are two different points really. Firstly, I don't think our position in the league would be much different this season whether Mahrez was playing or not. I think that's fair enough when people say we wouldn't have missed him this season. But without someone of his quality and with undoubted ability I think it would be much harder for us to reach a higher level, as he's one of the few players who CAN step up another level. It's getting it out of him that's the issue. That's an assessment but in reality we'll never know.
Redouane Posted 15 May 2017 Posted 15 May 2017 3 minutes ago, The Floyd said: I definitely think there's a case to argue that we haven't quite seen the same improvement from him since Ranieri left in comparison to others. Rightly or wrongly, Mahrez is exposed to more criticism because we all know just how capable he is, and unlike Albrighton or Okazaki, when he isn't scoring or creating goals, he isn't doing much else. I'm unsure as to whether goals scored is a good measurement of performance but even so, three goals from open play in the PL is poor/average for any winger, let alone Mahrez. I'd love for him to stay but I don't think we'll see the best of him unless he is truly happy to be here, which at the moment is very questionable. Mahrez does not just have goals to offer for Leicester. His presence on the pitch is already enough to make opponents mark him leading Albrighton and Okazaki to have less defenders on their tails. Do you think Gray would have the same effect? Also his defensive contribution has improved immensely. But why does everyone on here take away credit for his contribution from the Champions League. Do you think Leicester would've progressed from the group stages if it weren't for Mahrez?
Babylon Posted 15 May 2017 Posted 15 May 2017 16 minutes ago, Redouane said: But why does everyone on here take away credit for his contribution from the Champions League. Do you think Leicester would've progressed from the group stages if it weren't for Mahrez? It's a possibility yes ... because we have someone else capable of taking penalties.
Babylon Posted 15 May 2017 Posted 15 May 2017 19 minutes ago, MattCan said: That's an assessment but in reality we'll never know. We won't indeed, but if you look at the stats and his general contribution (minus set pieces) hasn't been that much more than Grays. Mahrez won a huge number of points last year that most of us could point to, it's not been the same this year.
foxes21 Posted 15 May 2017 Posted 15 May 2017 no way is gray good enough to replace mahrez. we'll have to spend big bucks to replace riyad, or find another hidden gem.
Babylon Posted 15 May 2017 Posted 15 May 2017 9 minutes ago, foxes21 said: no way is gray good enough to replace mahrez. we'll have to spend big bucks to replace riyad, or find another hidden gem. THIS season I don't think he'd be far behind him in terms of statistical contribution (he's already ahead in terms of assists). I don't think he's close to his quality, but Mahrez hasn't been playing close to 100%.
foxy boxing Posted 15 May 2017 Posted 15 May 2017 Mahrez probably wants to just express himself football wise and show on the pitch what he can do without having to do different roles like defend or track back like he has had to do for this team! at the moment he is the undoubted star in a relatively small pond and feels he has given us a few good years of service already. playing regularly with the very top players he may well either feel out of his depth or completely at home. i think the fans get so frustrated with him because they know he could be a truly world class player and want to see more consistency from him week in week out, but every fan will miss him if and when he goes and it will be a long time before the club see a player of his calibre again.
AyewJoking Posted 15 May 2017 Posted 15 May 2017 10 minutes ago, foxes21 said: no way is gray good enough to replace mahrez. we'll have to spend big bucks to replace riyad, or find another hidden gem. I think Gray will do very well for us. Reinvest the 75M we get for mahrez into the defence/centre midfield.
Babylon Posted 15 May 2017 Posted 15 May 2017 6 minutes ago, Royston. said: I think Gray will do very well for us. Reinvest the 75M we get for mahrez into the defence/centre midfield. I wish!
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 15 May 2017 Posted 15 May 2017 3 hours ago, Redouane said: He had 5 successful penalties out 7 (including the one missed vs City). He's still at 5 goals and 5 assists without counting penalties. 9 times out 10 losing the ball? He loses it sometimes, but don't exaggerate. It's a risk that he takes to make a play. Now tell me, if he isn't to take risks and just pass the ball back and slow the game up even more, what benefit would that gain the team? If Mahrez isn't making plays, then who will? You are quite correct, who else can possibly score and create? - when they are sat on the bench for a whole season while Mahrez is pandered to through many many poor performances.
Redouane Posted 15 May 2017 Posted 15 May 2017 Just now, NotTheMarketLeader said: You are quite correct, who else can possibly score and create? - when they are sat on the bench for a whole season while Mahrez is pandered to through many many poor performances. Give me a name.
Thracian Posted 15 May 2017 Posted 15 May 2017 1 hour ago, The Floyd said: I definitely think there's a case to argue that we haven't quite seen the same improvement from him since Ranieri left in comparison to others. Rightly or wrongly, Mahrez is exposed to more criticism because we all know just how capable he is, and unlike Albrighton or Okazaki, when he isn't scoring or creating goals, he isn't doing much else. I'm unsure as to whether goals scored is a good measurement of performance but even so, three goals from open play in the PL is poor/average for any winger, let alone Mahrez. I'd love for him to stay but I don't think we'll see the best of him unless he is truly happy to be here, which at the moment is very questionable. Some might put that down to a) Our prolonged involvement in the Champions League, b) Our change of approach under Ranieri. c) Our poor pre-season in terms of preparing and blending players together properly. d) The disappointing return on several signings who were meant to add some strength to the squad and e) AFCON commitments and consequences. Many managers have said European involvement takes quite some adjusting to.
Hume Posted 15 May 2017 Posted 15 May 2017 3 hours ago, Redouane said: Disappointing season based on last season's, but he hasn't had a disappointing season compared to his teammates. It absolutely infuriates me when some on here claim that he's getting carried by the rest of the squad. We get it, he hasn't lived up to last season, no one is arguing against that. Not even me, a biased Algerian Mahrez fan agree with that. Mahrez is still the club's second top scorer after Vardy in all competitions, and third after Vardy and Slimani in the premier league. I don't understand if people forget that, or just expect him to outscore Vardy. Worth noting that 5 of his 10 goals have been penalties and he's also missed 2!! He's our most talented player by a mile and has been one of our biggest under performers this season. Let's hope he stays and follows Hazard's seasonal pattern of being incredible-disappointing-incredible.
The Floyd Posted 15 May 2017 Posted 15 May 2017 21 minutes ago, Redouane said: Mahrez does not just have goals to offer for Leicester. His presence on the pitch is already enough to make opponents mark him leading Albrighton and Okazaki to have less defenders on their tails. Do you think Gray would have the same effect? Also his defensive contribution has improved immensely. But why does everyone on here take away credit for his contribution from the Champions League. Do you think Leicester would've progressed from the group stages if it weren't for Mahrez? That depends entirely on how the opposition set up and the same can be applied to Vardy but he's adapted his game accordingly. It's impossible to say re. Gray, I have more confidence in Mahrez as would be expected, but it's harsh on Gray to constantly compare the two as he hasn't been given much opportunity to show his worth. I absolutely do think we would have progressed from the group stages without Mahrez, yes.
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 15 May 2017 Posted 15 May 2017 2 hours ago, ZeGuy said: Yes he's been underperforming and even crap sometimes, frustrating, whatever, like the whole team. Even more so when we know what he is capable of. No one did argue with that. Yet he's getting an insane amount of stick, especially from you. Your consistency at slagging him off in every single fvcking post about him and refusing to see anything positive from him is staggering. We all have our bias but yours are at a whole other level. When it comes to Mahrez, you're one of the most unfair, if not the most unfair, critics on this forum, which is quite an achievement, I must say. How you could draw this kind of delirious conclusion without the slightest proof to back it up says volumes about your bias. Thats a fair attempt a trying to defend a very difficult position in the argument. However the statistics I quote are a fact, which renders all your spiel and utter nonsense, just that. Your view is nothing but anecdotal opinion, whereas mine is specific with regard to his PL performances over the season in terms of goals and assists. What is is my opinion is his overall lack of commitment or effort in games this season has not been good enough. That you can argue about, but the facts are there to be seen by all.
The Floyd Posted 15 May 2017 Posted 15 May 2017 6 minutes ago, Thracian said: Many would put that down to a) Our prolonged involvement in the Champions League, b) Our change of approach under Ranieri and c) Our poor pre-season in terms of preparing and blending players together properly. d) The disappointing return on several signings who were meant to add some strength to the squad and e) AFCON commitments and consequences. Many managers have said European involvement takes quite some adjusting to. Apologies, but which part of the post was this in response to?
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 15 May 2017 Posted 15 May 2017 3 hours ago, ZeGuy said: Yes he's been underperforming and even crap sometimes, frustrating, whatever, like the whole team. Even more so when we know what he is capable of. No one did argue with that. Yet he's getting an insane amount of stick, especially from you. Your consistency at slagging him off in every single fvcking post about him and refusing to see anything positive from him is staggering. We all have our bias but yours are at a whole other level. When it comes to Mahrez, you're one of the most unfair, if not the most unfair, critics on this forum, which is quite an achievement, I must say. How you could draw this kind of delirious conclusion without the slightest proof to back it up says volumes about your bias. Ive come to my 'delirious conclusion' based on watching the bloke in every game for the last 3 or however many years it is. Again however, more importantly his PL goals and assists from open play - 4 and 3. Nothing to do with anything other than the facts. Albrighton has 6 assists and a lot of Riyad's fans seem to think he's not fit to lace Mahrez's boots. Wake up.
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 15 May 2017 Posted 15 May 2017 26 minutes ago, Redouane said: Give me a name. Gray should have been given much more game time for the good of the CLUB, at some point while Mahrez has been playing below par. He should have been given more opportunities to show what he can do. He incidentally has played 1/3 of the game time that Mahrez has. He has scored one goal and yet has the same amount of assists in the League as your Messiah - 3.
Thracian Posted 15 May 2017 Posted 15 May 2017 23 minutes ago, The Floyd said: Apologies, but which part of the post was this in response to? Redouane's comment that Mahrez had a disappointing season compared to last. I might also mention his being heavily marked and us not having sufficient threatening players to take some of that pressure off.
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