We could show Mahrez we want him to stay

[ZeGuy]

7 hours ago, NotTheMarketLeader said:

Ive come to my 'delirious conclusion' based on watching the bloke in every game for the last 3 or however many years it is.

 

Again however, more importantly his PL goals and assists from open play - 4 and 3.  Nothing to do with anything other than the facts.

 

Albrighton has 6 assists and a lot of Riyad's fans seem to think he's not fit to lace Mahrez's boots.

 

Wake up.

 

Well I'm following him for two years. Enough to see the difference between this season and the last one, but also to understand how much potential and talent he has.

 

You're blatantly avoiding the fact where he was at the start of actions that lead to either a goal or a goal chance. You're blatantly denying the weight he has and the possible threat he can be by just being on the pitch forcing the opponent to double mark him. You're using stats that push forward your own agenda and fuel your bias.

 

Granted he's miles off the player he was last year, he's in no way as bad as you make him out to be.

 

Albrighton, whom I like a lot and whose work rate is colossal, was largely crap the whole season under Ranieri, just like the whole team by the way. He's been immense since Shakey took over and by far our best player actually.

 

However in terms of sheer talent, there are worlds between him and Mahrez. But we can talk about it once again, as soon as Albrighton wins the PFA Award or gets doubled up in every game. 

[dannythefox]

The best we've ever had but he's basically put himself up for sale in the interview on Saturday. Unprofessional and he's lost his edge because he's not arsed about playing for us now. There's times when you need to move players on and this will be summer. 

[MattCan]

1 hour ago, Babylon said:

We won't indeed, but if you look at the stats and his general contribution (minus set pieces) hasn't been that much more than Grays. Mahrez won a huge number of points last year that most of us could point to, it's not been the same this year.

I beg to disagree. To be fair to Gray, he didn't even play enough time to warrant a comparison. I know it's unpopular in this forum to say Mahrez is not bad or that he contributed more than Gray but that's the way I see it.

[Stevosevic]

Mahrez is a class above everyone else in the squad - hence the clubs he's been linked to.

 

I'm not sure why anyone would want him to leave. We need a couple of upgrades in other positions to play with Mahrez, not searching for his replacement.

[Redouane]

1 hour ago, NotTheMarketLeader said:

Gray should have been given much more game time for the good of the CLUB, at some point while Mahrez has been playing below par.

 

He should have been given more opportunities to show what he can do.

 

He incidentally has played 1/3 of the game time that Mahrez has. He has scored one goal and yet has the same amount of assists in the League as your Messiah -  3. 

So you're happy with Gray who selfishly shoots the ball whenever, but not Mahrez? Yeah, Gray has 4 assists but which teams were they against? Can he replicate that performance versus Tottenham thursday? 

 

Gray's shot map btw:

 

I don't hate Gray. He's a good player, and has his flaws just like any player. He will some day become a great player, but to say he can immediately replace Mahrez is preposterous. 

 

[HKFox]

13 minutes ago, Stevosevic said:

Mahrez is a class above everyone else in the squad - hence the clubs he's been linked to.

 

I'm not sure why anyone would want him to leave. We need a couple of upgrades in other positions to play with Mahrez, not searching for his replacement.

Agreed, problem at the moment he is too good to be with us and wants Champions League football. If we tell him that we are signing players to push for top 4 next year with quality players not the abject signings we made last summer, potentially that can keep Mahrez. I fear he has made his mind up and wants to go. Anything short of 50 million for me and we will have been ripped off. Rudkin will probably accept around 25 though! He has had a very indifferent year for us, but he is an amazing footballer and we need to appreciate him whilst he is here. 

[NotTheMarketLeader]

53 minutes ago, ZeGuy said:

Well I'm following him for two years. Enough to see the difference between this season and the last one, but also to understand how much potential and talent he has.

 

You're blatantly avoiding the fact where he was at the start of actions that lead to either a goal or a goal chance. You're blatantly denying the weight he has and the possible threat he can be by just being on the pitch forcing the opponent to double mark him. You're using stats that push forward your own agenda and fuel your bias.

 

Granted he's miles off the player he was last year, he's in no way as bad as you make him out to be.

 

Albrighton, who I like a lot and whose work rate is colossal, was largely crap the whole season under Ranieri, just like the whole team by the way. He's been immense since Shakey took over and by far our best player actually.

 

However in terms of sheer talent, there are worlds between him and Mahrez. But we can talk about it once again, as soon as Albrighton wins the PFA Award or gets doubled up in every game. 

You are missing my point. 

 

I agree whole heartedly with the first sentance of the last paragraph. 

 

What I am saying is Mahrez is STILL being lauded as a world beater who should be bowed and scraped to; someone who has played week in week out regardless of performances,

when he has not done enough to warrant that this season. 

 

The end product in the PL i.e., goals and assists has not been good enough. 

 

 

[NotTheMarketLeader]

21 minutes ago, Redouane said:

So you're happy with Gray who selfishly shoots the ball whenever, but not Mahrez? Yeah, Gray has 4 assists but which teams were they against? Can he replicate that performance versus Tottenham thursday? 

 

Gray's shot map btw:

 

I don't hate Gray. He's a good player, and has his flaws just like any player. He will some day become a great player, but to say he can immediately replace Mahrez is preposterous. 

 

When Mahrez has been under performing he should have been given more opportunities to show what he can do.

 

Hes a highly talented player but unless he is given more game time he will not fulfil the undoubted promise he has.

 

Mahrez has played some shocking games this season and should have made way at some point for the good of the TEAM even if temporarily. 

 

Another thing; Mahrez's attitude stinks. A few games back he was subbed and threw his toys out of the pram! 

 

Is your problem that your nationalistic tendencies cloud your judgement in favour of this player over the football club.

 

When he leaves do you then become an Arsenal supporter; or wherever he goes?

[the fox]

Aahh! The old fashioned "you are defending mahrez because you're Algerian" I see.

Like they say, if you can't discredit the message, discredit the messenger.

[Redouane]

39 minutes ago, NotTheMarketLeader said:

When Mahrez has been under performing he should have been given more opportunities to show what he can do.

 

Hes a highly talented player but unless he is given more game time he will not fulfil the undoubted promise he has.

 

Mahrez has played some shocking games this season and should have made way at some point for the good of the TEAM even if temporarily. 

 

Another thing; Mahrez's attitude stinks. A few games back he was subbed and threw his toys out of the pram! 

 

Is your problem that your nationalistic tendencies cloud your judgement in favour of this player over the football club.

 

When he leaves do you then become an Arsenal supporter; or wherever he goes?

You obviously know nothing about my country. They are worse critics of Mahrez than anyone on here, then when he starts playing good again everyone jumps on the bandwagon claiming they've supported him since the Championship. I, however, support Mahrez through the highs and the lows. 

 

Yes, I will probably watch his games wherever he goes, but that doesn't mean that I'll stop watching Leicester games. Leicester is really the first team apart from the national team where I legitimately feel bad if they lose, or happy when they win. I don't get this feeling with any other club in the world. 

 

And no, I don't think that my judgement is clouded. A lot of non-Algerian people on here see things the way I do, there is really a minority of people who aggressively want Mahrez out (mostly you) on here. I get that he gets criticism, I criticize him too, but you just have an agenda against him. Everything he does is bad, it's really ridiculous. 

 

I criticize other players on the squad, but I also recognize their strengths (notably Gray and Drinkwater). You on the hand just point out the bads and compare him to last season, but I don't see you doing that with the other players who have all under performed compared to last season. 

 

 

[NotTheMarketLeader]

3 hours ago, Babylon said:

It's a possibility yes ... because we have someone else capable of taking penalties.

Alleluia....I'm not on my own in this after all. 

[Babylon]

2 hours ago, MattCan said:

I beg to disagree. To be fair to Gray, he didn't even play enough time to warrant a comparison. I know it's unpopular in this forum to say Mahrez is not bad or that he contributed more than Gray but that's the way I see it.

I've not said Mahrez is bad, he's top quality. But he's nowhere near his best and his influence has been minimal this year in the prem. I want him to stay, but I just don't see how we'd have been any worse off playing Gray all year. At his best Mahrez is streets ahead... but considering Gray had more assists from minimal game time it shows his impact wasn't what it was.

 

Get his head right and he's the sort of player who can take us back to the next level. But he truly needs to want to be here for that to happen.

[KingsX]

4 hours ago, Babylon said:

 

 

I think there are two different points really. Firstly, I don't think our position in the league would be much different this season whether Mahrez was playing or not. I think that's fair enough when people say we wouldn't have missed him this season.

 

But without someone of his quality and with undoubted ability I think it would be much harder for us to reach a higher level, as he's one of the few players who CAN step up another level. It's getting it out of him that's the issue.

ZeGuy and Notthemarketleader both repped the same Mahrez post    You, sir, are a wizard and a genius.

[NotTheMarketLeader]

1 minute ago, KingsX said:

ZeGuy and Notthemarketleader both repped the same Mahrez post    You, sir, are a wizard and a genius.

Yeah....I didn't know how to rep only the first paragraph.

[Babylon]

1 hour ago, KingsX said:

ZeGuy and Notthemarketleader both repped the same Mahrez post    You, sir, are a wizard and a genius.

Ha.  There is a middle ground in appreciating how good he can be and how disappointing he has been! 

[Russell sprout]

3 hours ago, HKFox said:

problem at the moment he is too good to be with us 

You are joking aren't you,

the very reason he is with us and not a bigger club is because he's not good enough for the bigger clubs,

all this mahrez love is cringe,he's good but not that good

[Beachyboy]

12 hours ago, NotTheMarketLeader said:

What are you on about...Mahrez is the reason we play with low possession.

 

The ****er constantly gives it to the opposition!

Flair players take more risks of course they lose the ball more, anyone in the prem can play a 5 yard pass sideways, I have been frustrated also though with his basic control at times an decision making, he tried to take on 4 defenders against man city as an example, if Mahrez wasn't  playing, it's not like wed be having 60% possession in games, it would make a 2% difference at best.

[st albans fox]

Why is it riyad's fault that he is on pen duties?

 

thats the managers responsibility

 

shakey knows his style so if he doesn't like it he should have changed it to slim or vards or whoever he wants 

 

 

[ARM1968]

By 'a little mean' I meant 'fuching out of order'

 

we all know Mahrez has been sub par this season, he knows it.  The problem is not one I think we can fix. Therefore everyone is served best by him leaving for pastures new with our good wishes and thanks ringing in his little Algerian ears. 

[Great Boos Up]

Mahrez is on pens to give him back his rep build his confidence and get some people off his back. How many goals do we get from Albrighton; loads because every team doubles up and trebles up on Mahrez. We have one luxury player and I will miss him so much if he leaves.

[MattCan]

7 hours ago, Babylon said:

I've not said Mahrez is bad, he's top quality. But he's nowhere near his best and his influence has been minimal this year in the prem. I want him to stay, but I just don't see how we'd have been any worse off playing Gray all year. At his best Mahrez is streets ahead... but considering Gray had more assists from minimal game time it shows his impact wasn't what it was.

 

Get his head right and he's the sort of player who can take us back to the next level. But he truly needs to want to be here for that to happen.

I don't know what the stats say but, from watching the games, I know this: Mahrez is indisputably the main creator of big/dangerous chances for Leicester City in the 2016-2017 season. LCFC needs Mahrez, not his transfer money. He has been such an incredible bargain anyway. I think the owners and the management are aware  of that.

[NotTheMarketLeader]

11 hours ago, Beachyboy said:

Flair players take more risks of course they lose the ball more, anyone in the prem can play a 5 yard pass sideways, I have been frustrated also though with his basic control at times an decision making, he tried to take on 4 defenders against man city as an example, if Mahrez wasn't  playing, it's not like wed be having 60% possession in games, it would make a 2% difference at best.

Yes I was being facetious with that comment, while he is very wasteful, I didn't mean it to be taken literally.

[HKFox]

14 hours ago, Russell sprout said:

You are joking aren't you,

the very reason he is with us and not a bigger club is because he's not good enough for the bigger clubs,

all this mahrez love is cringe,he's good but not that good

not joking at all, some people only realise how good something is when they have lost it.

All I am saying is whilst we have Mahrez with us, we need to appreciate him now. He is the best winger we will see at Leicester. This year he has not been as good because he is doubled marked. As soon as he gets the ball he has 2 or 3 men close by, he could easily walk into spurs, man city, arsenal, Uniteds, starting line ups. Xavi last year, Pep last week, all top players and coaching staff understand how good Mahrez is. He will leave in the summer, and we will remember how good he was for us, same as Kante. 

[Beachyboy]

2 hours ago, NotTheMarketLeader said:

Yes I was being facetious with that comment, while he is very wasteful, I didn't mean it to be taken literally.

He's frustrating as u know what he's capable of, an ultimately probably needs to move on to develop by playing with better players, an Leicester need to find the next raw diamond, an develop them, as he's developed as much as he can at Leicester.

[AmarteyAndChill]

5 minutes ago, HKFox said:

not joking at all, some people only realise how good something is when they have lost it.

All I am saying is whilst we have Mahrez with us, we need to appreciate him now. He is the best winger we will see at Leicester. This year he has not been as good because he is doubled marked. As soon as he gets the ball he has 2 or 3 men close by, he could easily walk into spurs, man city, arsenal, Uniteds, starting line ups. Xavi last year, Pep last week, all top players and coaching staff understand how good Mahrez is. He will leave in the summer, and we will remember how good he was for us, same as Kante. 

I agree, the things Mahrez does with the ball is incredible. His left foot is one of the best in world football. In a team that dosent keep pumping the ball forward and we get other, better players that will take the pressure and emphasis of Riyad he will thrive.