We could show Mahrez we want him to stay

[seenitall]

49 minutes ago, Thracian said:

i'd turn the clock back in terms of the EU anytime so mixing political views and the Mahrez debate is pretty unconvincing.

 

Relating to Mahrez few deny that he's made a massive contribution to our success - and to our Great Escape as well as our late-season recovery under Shakespeare.         

 

Latterly he's been inconsistent but still a creative danger as emphasised by his continued contribution of both goals and assists whether he's otherwise played badly or not.

 

The other thing is that Mahrez has to be marked - usually by one defender plus cover - and that takes some pressure off us defensively and off others venturing forward

 

But only he can decide if he wants to stay here and I've no doubt we could find every bit as good an alternative if Mahrez was in the wrong frame of mind though I'd probably say the same about any player.

 

So basically, if he wants out, take the money and go again. If he wants in and with a committed attitude, fine. I'll sing along with the rest of the fans quite happily.

 

       

But the point is, you can't turn the clock back..........

[Charl91]

19 hours ago, Countryfox said:

 

Why, when people are talking about one player, do they have to slag off another ...     I don't get it.   Albrighton is a cracking player as are virtually all our title winning squad.   Stop fookin whining.

I'm not whining you bloomin muppet, and I'm not slagging off another player. If you reading comprehension was up to par, you'd have seen that I said he's a fantastic player.

 

I'm saying that people are criticizing Mahrez because he doesn't "work hard". I was saying that each player has their own set of skills, and you don't necessarily just want  a team of "hard workers".

[Countryfox]

1 minute ago, Charl91 said:

 If you reading comprehension was up to par, you'd have said he's a fantastic player.

 

 

Bout as good as your writing ...

[Charl91]

1 minute ago, Countryfox said:

Bout as good as your writing ...

Well Boo-urns to you.

[Countryfox]

5 minutes ago, Charl91 said:

I'm not whining you bloomin muppet, and I'm not slagging off another player. If you reading comprehension was up to par, you'd have seen that I said he's a fantastic player.

 

I'm saying that people are criticizing Mahrez because he doesn't "work hard". I was saying that each player has their own set of skills, and you don't necessarily just want  a team of "hard workers".

Exactly ..   you're saying in effect that Albrighton has no skills and is a 'hard worker' ...    twaddle.

[fleckneymike]

5 minutes ago, Countryfox said:

Exactly ..   you're saying in effect that Albrighton has no skills and is a 'hard worker' ...    twaddle.

Surely he is saying that Albrighton's greatest quality is a hard work. It doesn't therefore follow that his weakest quality is skill.

[Countryfox]

5 minutes ago, fleckneymike said:

Surely he is saying that Albrighton's greatest quality is a hard work. It doesn't therefore follow that his weakest quality is skill.

 He originally said if we had a team of 11 players like Albrighton he wouldn't want to watch them ...    Slagging off an underrated and skilful player in my opinion.    

[Beachyboy]

1 minute ago, Countryfox said:

 He originally said if we had a team of 11 players like Albrighton he wouldn't want to watch them ...    Slagging off an underrated and skilful player in my opinion.    

If we had a team full of 11 Albrightons, we wouldn't of got in the mess we were in until now, we would of been between 8th-13th all season.

[fleckneymike]

3 minutes ago, Countryfox said:

 He originally said if we had a team of 11 players like Albrighton he wouldn't want to watch them ...    Slagging off an underrated and skilful player in my opinion.    

I don't think that is slagging him off. I wouldn't want to watch a team of 11 hardworking players either. Likewise if we had 11 mercurial talents I wouldn't much enjoy watching that.

 

You need a mixture.

[Countryfox]

3 minutes ago, fleckneymike said:

I don't think that is slagging him off.

 

I do ...    Let's agree to differ.   

[Thracian]

1 hour ago, seenitall said:

But the point is, you can't turn the clock back..........

The clock is often turned back in metaphorical terms. Some might say Shakespeare's done exactly that at Leicester. Politics is no different. . 

[Charl91]

57 minutes ago, fleckneymike said:

I don't think that is slagging him off. I wouldn't want to watch a team of 11 hardworking players either. Likewise if we had 11 mercurial talents I wouldn't much enjoy watching that.

 

You need a mixture.

Thanks, that's the point I was trying to make.

 

52 minutes ago, Countryfox said:

 

I do ...    Let's agree to differ.   

 

Not really, I think Albrighton's a great player, I just don't think we should judge players purely on whether they appear to "work hard".

 

I also think Wes Morgan is a great player, but I wouldn't want to see a team with 10 Wes Morgans in.

 

 

[Manwell Pablo]

On 07/05/2017 at 12:06, seenitall said:

Wanting rid of Mahrez is a bit like wanting Brexit - you think there is a better way out there and howl until you get it and only when you eventually have it and it is worse than what you had before will you want to turn the clock back to the 'good old days'. It's why football fans and the electorate should never be listened to on anything important.....but sadly they are.

 

Im in awe you've posted something accurate.

 

It amazes me that people actually think the way the OP do. He knows he is well thought of here and we run no risk of losing him to a sideways move. If he ends up going somewhere it'll be better prospects, bigger money, European football and trophy potential. If that's the case I can guarantee what the fans think of him will rank somewhere in between if his brand of teeth whitener is available in Munich or if there is a lack  of halal takeaways in Turin.

[USFox]

Mahrez leaving is bad, but its not terrible in the sense that it will completely degrade us. If he leaves, we'd probably receive a ton of money and can spend that on fixing our defense. Also, with Gray playing the way he is, and the thought that he'll get better with summer friendlies, it wouldn't be detrimental to lose Mahrez. Obviously he's our best player, and obviously he will be missed, but in a way it could be the opening of a new chapter without him. For me losing Mahrez but fixing our defense with solid young players is less negative and more positive. I guess the way I see it is like this: Better Defense > Losing Mahrez. Even statistically, if we concede less goals and score less, we could be better. Winning games 1-0 or 2-1 is better than losing 2-3 or 1-2.

[brucey]

30 minutes ago, USFox said:

Mahrez leaving is bad, but its not terrible in the sense that it will completely degrade us. If he leaves, we'd probably receive a ton of money and can spend that on fixing our defense. Also, with Gray playing the way he is, and the thought that he'll get better with summer friendlies, it wouldn't be detrimental to lose Mahrez. Obviously he's our best player, and obviously he will be missed, but in a way it could be the opening of a new chapter without him. For me losing Mahrez but fixing our defense with solid young players is less negative and more positive. I guess the way I see it is like this: Better Defense > Losing Mahrez. Even statistically, if we concede less goals and score less, we could be better. Winning games 1-0 or 2-1 is better than losing 2-3 or 1-2.

But we don't need the money, we've got 60m from the CL and 100m from the PL, which the owners have said will all be reinvested into the club, it's enough to fix our defence many times over. What's another spare 40m in the bank? We'll upgrade our defence regardless. Not losing Mahrez > Losing Mahrez.

[Devonfox1884]

3 hours ago, Thracian said:

 

Re Gray:- I don't know about "nuts", they might be his parents, friends or agent!   

[jon1bc]

On Sunday, May 07, 2017 at 14:23, Ric Flair said:

I've been arguing all morning on Facebook with prats who genuinely think Gray is better than him. I like Gray but I hate our fans. Get fcuked.

Entirely agree. I'm sick to death of trying to justify why Mahrez should remain in a Leicester shirt.. 

 

We would not have won the Premier League without him, not even close..Why on earth fans would be happy for him to go is beyond me.

 

 

[Stadt]

If he stays hopefully after a proper preseason and without the hangover of being champions he'll being firing on all cylinders again much like Drinkwater. However if he carries on with the tepid performances he's put in for 90% of this season then he should leave. He's a legend for what he's achieved here but he's not bigger than the club and if he doesn't want to be here I don't want him to be here either.

[Countryfox]

1 hour ago, Charl91 said:

 

Not really, I think Albrighton's a great player, I just don't think we should judge players purely on whether they appear to "work hard".

 

 

I've never judged Mahrez on how hard he works but have like many been disappointed with his form .....     There are 2 issues, his lack of confidence and his tactical awareness ...   Move the ball on quickly if you are surrounded but use your undoubted skill when the odds are better and you are in the last third of the pitch.  He looked better at the end of the last match (when old workhorse was MOTM imo by the way) but needs to build on this and become consistent.  He's always struggled to get back and can't tackle to save his life, but all that is easily forgiven when he's on his game.   His confidence problem will probably always be there to a degree (look at this thread title ... we all know it) ...   And needs to be managed.  When Shakey is made manager, and has a clear head and a proper assistant to support him, I'm sure he can get that sorted.

[Izzy]

2 minutes ago, Wookie said:

If he stays hopefully after a proper preseason and without the hangover of being champions he'll being firing on all cylinders again much like Drinkwater. However if he carries on with the tepid performances he's put in for 90% of this season then he should leave. He's a legend for what he's achieved here but he's not bigger than the club and if he doesn't want to be here I don't want him to be here either.

Has he ever publicly said he doesn't want to be here though?

 

I know his body language may suggest that at times, but I think it's more down to his frustration at not producing his best.

 

I've read a few posts suggesting he wants away but I've yet to see or hear any evidence that this is true.

 

Unless someone can prove otherwise, I'm not buying it. Maybe he's actually really happy here and wants to stay? 

[Stevosevic]

He'll be class again next season - whoever he is playing for.

 

 

[Stadt]

23 minutes ago, Izzy Muzzett said:

Has he ever publicly said he doesn't want to be here though?

 

I know his body language may suggest that at times, but I think it's more down to his frustration at not producing his best.

 

I've read a few posts suggesting he wants away but I've yet to see or hear any evidence that this is true.

 

Unless someone can prove otherwise, I'm not buying it. Maybe he's actually really happy here and wants to stay? 

There's not really any overt evidence, in fact he's said he's happy here a few times but I get the impression that he wants a move.

[USFox]

1 hour ago, brucey said:

But we don't need the money, we've got 60m from the CL and 100m from the PL, which the owners have said will all be reinvested into the club, it's enough to fix our defence many times over. What's another spare 40m in the bank? We'll upgrade our defence regardless. Not losing Mahrez > Losing Mahrez.

Fair point.

[adejo92]

To be fair, if we get a decent figure, i would be happy to see Mahrez go. We all know what he is capable of but he's playing like he's already signed a contract else where. Doesn't seem to be any desire from him..

 

Seems like we play him for 90 minutes in the hope of him producing 10 seconds of magic which we know he is capable of.

 

I am not saying i want him out, but i am saying i would take a decent sum of money for him, Slimani too.

[fuchsntf]

15 hours ago, Swan Lesta said:

Mahrez's feet and first touch and shot power from so little foot recoil - makes his ability on his day - world class. Grays a good player but a replacement for the practically irreplaceable- no.

Agree..

But we Should  stop comparing, then also have the idea throw it out that it can only be one or the other.

They are 2 different players...Back in my hero worshiping days we never tried to hold up,

Farrington, Glover, or Weller AGAINST each other. The comparisons were made out of

Interesting banter, and show or explain their Individual  Qualities, and different skill sets...

 

In some games, and to try and encourage different game tactics, plus having plan A, B +C

all 3 could well select for the same game, plus while we have all 3, the coaches should be

encouraging and working out various plans, when the 3 are selected.

Another very important key to this issue, Albrighton and Mahrez, have gathered more experience and game time, wherehas Gray is just starting out in his career..